[TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: OWAs or Fans?

[Richard (Rick) Karlquist]

You can model the insulation on the wire.
It would typically cause a 5% decrease in
Zo, not enough to explain the discrepancy.
The distance above ground has nothing to
do with the error caused by using an
unbalanced meter.

Rick N6RK

On 6/21/2016 1:56 PM, Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk wrote:
> Could be true. I also should have added that the 14 awg wire has some insulation and, I don't know if this matter, is twister multiwire. I don't remember what the wire is called but it is used as "hook-up" wire in equipment. The "unbalanced network analyzer" is probably of stronger influence but I just made it to see roughly where it was. It really was not of importance for me as I didn't know the exact feedpoint impedance and was planning to use a tuner anyhow.
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> I didn't think the balanced to unbalanced could be of that much importance as the feeder was several (~10) d - d distances above ground when tested.
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> Hans - N2JFS
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard (Rick) Karlquist <richard at karlquist.com>
> To: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg at aol.com>; towertalk <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 21, 2016 2:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: OWAs or Fans?
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> My calculation of that line works out to 579 ohms.
> Something doesn't add up here.  Probably explained
> by trying to measure a balanced line with an
> unbalanced network analyzer.  Or using a balun
> you haven't calibrated out.
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> Rick N6RK
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> On 6/21/2016 10:44 AM, Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk wrote:
>> Sorry Ed,
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>> My feed line is an open wire, 14 AWG with a 4" spacing. I believe it have a Zo of about 400 ohm (I tested it by putting a 390 ohm resistor at the end and watching the SWR as a function of the frequency.) I made the line myself.
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>> Hans - N2JFS
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Edward McCann <edwmccann at yahoo.com>
>> To: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg at aol.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Jun 20, 2016 11:36 pm
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Fwd:  Fwd: OWAs or Fans?
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>> And Hans,
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>> Your feedline is not described in your response. While I am assuming it is ladder or open wire feed, wound you mind being a bit more specific: maker, model number, impedance, etc.
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>> Thanks,
>> AG6CX
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