[TowerTalk] Fwd: Ledge Lightning Ground Advice

Wed May 4 19:53:11 EDT 2016

He's not there if it's a single run. 75' is considered the maximum for 
effective lengths. (see links in previous post) With the soil and rock 
just 2 to 3 feet down  he needs a "network", based on 3 radials. One for 
each tower leg with interconnecting wires forming a ground screen. The 
more, the better within budgetary limits.

The rest of your post has some good information.
I've found little to no information the the ARRL handbooks about safety 
grounding and nothing on UFER safety grounds.
Contrary to one post, there is little danger of blowing up a concrete 
UFER ground.
The concrete has an abundance of free ions and eventually will dope the 
surrounding soil.  How much?  I don't know.

This is simply a safety ground (earth) and has little to no effect on 
antenna operation.

73

Roger (K8RI)

On 5/4/2016 Wednesday 12:17 AM, Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk wrote:
> Hi Dave,
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> I believe you are pretty much there. The 120' #2 wire serves as a rather good ground for the tower and also serves the function as the equalizer (see #2).
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> In  my opinion there are two main things you want to accomplish protecting yourself from lightning strikes:
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> 1) You want to discharge as much as possible of the current from the lightning. That you do with grounding rods, grounding wires, grounding plates what have you spread around and connected to your tower. )In my case I use 9 rods connected with #4 wire to my tower). I guess your 120' wire is good and, needless to say, more wires laid out is a star pattern around your tower will help. What I understand, from reading, it is more important to have more wires and not too long once. I would guess, and this is not based on anything but my guts feeling, lengths of 20 - 30 feet would be optimal. Yes, the more the better, NOT: "The longer the better" NO!
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> 2) You want the voltage difference between your tower and your equipment to be as small as possible. That's where the #2 cable between your tower and your shack comes in. Here should be:" The more and the heavier the better". I believe several wires in parallel and spread apart a few inches to a few feet is good. (Similar effect as a Litz wire.) The idea is that in the event of a lightning strike you want the shack to assume the same (or as close as possible) voltage as the tower thereby reduce voltage induced current in your feed and control wires. (I have a short, 6 inch wide, aluminum band between my shack and my tower. The tower is only five feet away from my shack so that was simple.)
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> Good luck and wishes of no lightning destruction in your tower or shack.
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> best 73 de,
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> Hans - N2JFS
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Merchant <merchdl at gmail.com>
> To: towertalk <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 1, 2016 1:11 pm
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Ledge Lightning Ground Advice
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> Guys,
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> I could use some advice.  Late last fall, I erected 40' of Rohn 25G with a
> Tilt-over base.  It sits on top of a ledge that only has about 2-3 feet of
> rocky topsoil.  When I dug the hole for the foundation, I excavated all the
> loose fill and I core-drilled the rock below about 36".  I then epoxied
> 4-pieces of rebar

>   in the holes, and poured about 3-1/2 yards of concrete
> with anchor bolts for the base plate.  Unfortunately, I didn't think to bond
> any of the rebar or anchor bolts.
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> Right now, the only grounding the tower has is a connection to a 2-ga ground
> wire that runs 120' underground with the conduit that feeds the power.  It's
> in-turn mechanically connected to a 2-4' ground rod (the max I could
> install) every 15'.  The 2-ga wire is also connected to the Single-Point
> Ground  where the coax enters the home.
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> Since lightning season is about to get started, I'm concerned that this is
> insufficient grounding.
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> I was considering bonding some 2-4" copper strap to each of the tower legs
> and running it along the ground for 50' or so.  Also, I do have a SteppIR
> BigIR vertical about 20-feet away that has an extensive ground plane, albeit
> with insulated 12-14-ga wires.  This could be bonded as well, but currently
> isn't.
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> What would you guys recommend I do to augment the existing ground?
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> 73,
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> Dave
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> K1DLM
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73

Roger (K8RI)

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