[TowerTalk] Legs of a 60' piece of tower being dragged while being lifted

Fri Oct 14 13:19:48 EDT 2016

I was told I need a 50 ton to reach the 148’ height (above it – not side sticking it as they first suggested) ... and when I went to reserve it they said they’d give me a 70 ton at the price of the 50 and it can do 200’! So it might be a non-issue as they might be able to lift and boom out at the same time. But I want to be prepared. I called and again and asked them to come out and inspect it BEFORE next Friday – they said they’d do that on Monday. 

g.

From: Fred Keen 
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 12:08 PM
To: mike stokes ; TexasRF at aol.com ; rxdesign at ssvecnet.com ; n0ost99 at gmail.com 
Cc: towertalk at contesting.com 
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Legs of a 60' piece of tower being dragged while being lifted

Jeff,

It will depend on the size of the crane as to how close it has to be to the lift point and the tower base you are going to put it on.

Our 100'er had to be close to the tower base to pick the 70' of rohn 45.

On Friday, October 14, 2016 10:20 AM, mike stokes <mike9v at gmail.com> wrote:

How about strapping a 2 wheeler like move refridgerators with ?

Just a thought.

Mike
KK9V

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 11:06 AM TexasRF--- via TowerTalk <
towertalk at contesting.com> wrote:

> Gary, you might consider lashing a 4ft X 8ft sheet of plywood to the bottom
>  tower section to protect the end of the tower while dragging it across the
>  ground. Probably should be 3/4" thick to survive. Even a 2ft X 4ft might
> do  the job.
>
> Or, strap a couple of 4" X 4" X 8ft posts to the tower and let the ends of
> the posts take the abuse. Kind of like what you have seen in old Western
> movies  showing how Indians moved stuff around on two poles strapped to
> their
> horse.
>
> If you don't do something to protect the tower you can expect some  of the
> galvanizing to be scrapped off. I have seen that happen just  skidding
> sections around on a smooth concrete floor. With upwards of 400 pounds  of
> weight
> on the lower end it is a given.
>
> I have not done any of these things so consider this as a concept only. As
> they say, your mileage may vary!
>
> 73,
> Gerald K5GW
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/14/2016 8:57:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> rxdesign at ssvecnet.com writes:
>
> Indeed  you are correct ... however space is the limitation. The 60’ piece
> was  assembled with the top nearest the crane and going away from that
> spot –
>  that  distance it goes away is probably too far for the crane as it would
> need to  boom out too much... with hindsight I might have tried to do it
> differently to  accomplish this better but even thinking about that I don’t
> think it would  have been possible with 6 antennas all assembled scattered
> around. The space  where it would have had to go is where I had to stage
> the 50’
> boom 5 el 20 in  order to get it pre-assembled on to a 14’ tower section –
> it and the 80/75  dipole are at the top and I had to use that space to get
> it ready (its now  done and ready to go).
>
> g.
>
>
>
> From: Jeff Draughn
> Sent:  Friday, October 14, 2016 9:05 AM
> To: StellarCAT
> Cc: tower
> Subject:  Re: [TowerTalk] Legs of a 60' piece of tower being dragged while
> being  lifted
>
>
> I may be all wet here, especially since I have never done  this before, but
> it seems if you position the base of the section you want to  lift near the
> tower you want to lift it onto then swing the boom of the crane  to pick up
> the end, as you pick it up if you swing the boom back towards the  base of
> the section you're lifting there would be very little dragging  involved.
>
> Again without having real life experience at doing this I  may be
> completely off-base but just a thought.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On  Friday, October 14, 2016, StellarCAT <rxdesign at ssvecnet.com>  wrote:
>
> So Fred pointed this out ... I hadn’t considered it up  until then... is it
> a problem to just allow the legs drag in the dirt while  the 60’ piece with
> rotating ring attached (~850#) is lifted? Is there ANY  chance the legs
> will deform making it impossible to mate it to the tower? I  don’t have
> access
> to an end loader or any other piece of heavy eqmt ... I  thought, and this
> might sound silly, a dolly ... those cheap(er) ones – seem  to be rated at
> 600# ... if I could get enough guys to lift the end and put  that under the
> end – then we could pull it along as the crane goes up....  although the
> ground is really rough so that is doubtful... it would probably  get stuck
> and
> the legs drop off which would be far worse than just having them  drag on
> the
> ground ... experiences anyone?
>
> Gary
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