[TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 170, Issue 112
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John
I totally agree. As per my last post on it, new bearings on the way...free.
73 Bill
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: March QST cover (Matt Lovewell)
2. Re: Antenna climbing harness (Rigging) (Gary)
3. re K0XG ROTATION SYSTEM ADVIC E (john at kk9a.com)
4. Re: Antenna climbing harness (Rigging) (K5CG)
5. Re: March QST cover (Kelly Taylor)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 17:24:32 -0600
From: Matt Lovewell <lovewell at gmail.com>
To: Mike Ryan <mryan001 at tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] March QST cover
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 5:14 PM, Mike Ryan <mryan001 at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
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> Much ado about nothing. -Mike
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> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of jimlux
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:58 AM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] March QST cover
>
>> On 2/27/17 6:27 AM, Mike Ricketts wrote:
>> This topic came up on Reddit right after the digital issue came out.
>>
>> A couple of quick points.
>>
>> 1. The photo was apparently supplied by the Eldorado Space Program
>> (Eldorado, TX), which is a school program at the high school. (
>> https://goo.gl/wx9OIM) So it seems the league had little/nothing to do
>> with the taking of the picture. They probably should have known better
>> than to use it though.
>>
>> 2. The following quote also came out in the discussion, I am unable
>> however to find the post on Facebook however to verify.
>>
>> "Concerning the March QST cover image, this was one of those
>> unfortunate situations that occurs occasionally in publishing where
>> many eyes on the publishing team look at an image, but none notice the
>> flaws. The QST staff will learn from this mistake and we will be more
>> diligent about cover photography in the future." ? Steve Ford, WB8IMY,
>> QST (Facebook post)
>>
>>
>
> I see this as in the same bucket as Field Day pictures with a mobile 2m rig putting out 50W into a whip antenna on the picnic table next to the operator. The picture is trying to convey a big idea, but illustrates some dangerous practices. Each time it happens, we poke at the league, and they gradually get better.
>
> The picture used was just too attractive: youth(!), female (!),
> technology(!)
>
> And at least she's wearing head protection and a harness. 20-30 years ago, it would have been someone hanging onto a unguyed 60 foot stick of
> R25 with one elbow around the tower, while using a tool in the other hand to twist the guy wire onto the tower, and wearing a baseball cap and flip-flops.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:46:26 +0000
From: Gary <gary_mayfield at hotmail.com>
To: "towertalk at contesting.com" <towertalk at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna climbing harness (Rigging)
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Back then - they would have free climbed and then attached a belt at the work level....
I was 14 long ago as well,
Joe kk0sd
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 1:26 PM
To: towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna climbing harness (Rigging)
"Back then" such a cover on QST would have resulted in stoning of the
editor. Remember all those eons of dull and drab Geeves cartons that
were run over and over and over? I think, however, there was a political
message behind this cover to try and reach out to the distaff side.
Unfortunately the egregious safety errors weren't vetted properly by
proper review by professionals who know tower climbing safety. In this
area there is no excuse.
Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
On 2/27/2017 3:07 PM, Ed Karl wrote:
> How come the knot on the fall arrester is not tight, before the tie
> wraps (huh?)
>
> On the other hand, I was 14 a l-o-o-ng time ago. Back then this might
> qualify as a "pinup"for the shack.
>
> 73! ed K0KL
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 01:53:54 -0000
From: <john at kk9a.com>
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Subject: [TowerTalk] re K0XG ROTATION SYSTEM ADVIC E
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Personally, I would not go through all of the trouble of installing the
system knowing that this conditions exists. It may fail at the worst
possible time and replacing the bearings is certainly easier while the guy
ring is on the ground.
John KK9A
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Subject: [TowerTalk] K0XG ROTATION SYSTEM ADVIC E
From: Bill via TowerTalk <towertalk at contesting.com>
Reply-to: cqtestk4xs at aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 14:24:37 -0500
About a year ago I bought a Rohn 55 rotation system from K0XG. After over a
year I finally got granted a permit to put the tower up. The tower is
scheduled to go up in 3 or 4 weeks and I was checking the rotating rings and
was in the process of using the grease gun on the fittings when I found
several
of the bearings in the rings were not rotating like the others. Of the
total
of 12 bearings, 3 were not moving as they should. 9 were able to be rotated
by
hand, but the 3 were tight. I used the grease gun on all the fittings
including the three bulky ones. I am now able to rotate the three by
gripping
with pliers with not much effort, but can not do it by hand.
Is this an issue? I called Richard at K0XG systems but have no heard back
from
him yet.
The three bearings do not appear to be damaged in any way and look just like
the others that rotate freely.
My thinking on this is it may not be an issue. With 1100 pounds of torque
on
each of the guys (5/16 EHS), plus the weight of the tower and antennas
(another
1000 lbs) the sheer weight will "force" the sticky bearings to rotate.
Has anyone had an issue similar to this? Anybody with advice, including how
difficult is it to replace these bearings, brand, where to find them etc.?
Thanks in advance for the help, and with a little luck KH7XS should be back
on
the air by mid April.
Bill K4XS/KH7XS
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:19:31 -0600 (CST)
From: K5CG <k5cg at hamoperator.org>
To: towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna climbing harness (Rigging)
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I was 21 "back then" working for LeBlanc & Royle out of Oakville Ontario. Free climbing inside towers and stopping every 50 feet was standard operating procedure. Unless you could ride up on the cable... http://www.hamoperator.org/pics/CKVR/
I used to climb up on the CKVR Channel 3 SuperTurnstile "Batwings" at the top of that one. Different rules today.
73
Danny
K5CG
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> From: "Gary" <gary_mayfield at hotmail.com>
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:46:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antenna climbing harness (Rigging)
> Back then - they would have free climbed and then attached a belt at the work
> level....
> I was 14 long ago as well,
> Joe kk0sd
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 14:38:22 -0600
From: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net>
To: sawyered at earthlink.net
Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] March QST cover
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One thing you learn after almost 30 years in publishing is, let he who is without sin?
The uninitiated would be blown away by how easy it is for major gaffes to slip through even the most professional organizations. Anybody remember ?Dewey defeats Truman?? As I recall, that wasn?t exactly the Podunk Gazette behind that one.
It was a mistake. It wasn?t the publishing world?s first and it certainly will not be the last. It is also unlikely the ARRL had anything to do with the composition of the photograph.
The tenor of the quoted tower industry magazine item was startlingly unprofessional, and violated a key tenet of journalism.
73, kelly, ve4xt
> On Feb 27, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I think that given how fundamentally important antennas and towers are to
> ham radio, the lack of anyone who knows what they are looking at reviewing
> the picture for proper safety procedures is unexcusable. It's the cover for
> cripes sake.
>
>
>
> The ARRL is not a volunteer organization. The staffers are paid and we pay
> for the publication and services. People treating this like it's a mistake
> in a club newsletter are way off base. It's a national paid publication.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Ed N1UR
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