[TowerTalk] Galling and seizing of SS nuts to SS threaded studs and bolts.

Roger (K8RI) on TT K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net
Mon Jul 3 05:25:58 EDT 2017

CORRECTION!  It's a BOX wrench!

On 7/3/2017 Monday 5:23 AM, Roger (K8RI) on TT wrote:
> I have, or had? a 12" T handle about a foot long, but there us now a 
> socket wrench that ratchets available in the big box stored and many 
> hardware stores. I think the one brand is Cobalt. They seem well made 
> and have a nice finish.
> 73, Roger (K8RI)
> On 7/2/2017 Sunday 1:53 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 09:29:36 -0400
>> From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Galling and seizing of SS nuts to SS threaded
>> studs and bolts.
>> <Easier than that. Just use Never seize
>> <SS to SS under tension, or just tight fitting will have the nut bonding
>> <to the bolt.
>> <With no preventative You have to twist the bolt off.  That can be a 
>> real
>> <knuckle buster with 3/8ths or 1/2". Been there, done that.
>> <73, Roger (K8RI)
>> ##  agreed.  I use the never seize  made by Loctite corp. Looks like
>> silver goop.   The deluxe version is called  marine grade never 
>> seize, also
>> made by Loctite corp.
>> ##  Where I had real bad issues with galling was when using .25-20  
>> SS  bolts
>> and mating SS  NYLOCKS.    The slightest nick or ding on either the 
>> SS threads
>> of either the bolt threads ..or  SS Nut threads and they would seize 
>> up asap.  The nylock
>> would bind and gall...and thats b4 the nut was even all the way 
>> down.  IE:  tiny air gap.
>> Then I had to cut the bolt off.... behind the SS nylock... on the 
>> inboard side, where the gap
>> lay...with a 1 inch cut off wheel on a dremel.    SS  bolts + 
>> regular  SS nuts....  IE : non nylocks
>> have given me zero issues.
>> ##  My fix for SS these days..is to..chase the threads with a die  
>> 1st..on the bolt. And
>> ditto with a tap into the SS nylock threads.    Once both threads are 
>> cleaned up, then apply
>> the never seize goop.... onto both bolt threads and Nylock nut 
>> threads.   End of problem.
>> ##  absolute bitch  to try and run a die on a SS  U bolt though.   
>> The ..T handle of the die gets in the
>> way, since the U bolt is parallel  threads !   Best I can come up 
>> with is to ditch the T handle..and
>> just screw the die onto the SS  bolt on both legs of the SS U bolts.
>> ##  When buying or storing SS  hardware, keep them separated, dont 
>> allow the SS threads  to get
>> bashed about.   If down at your local hard ware store, examine the 
>> SS  hardware that u pull  out of the
>> bins.... b4 you buy anything.   Avoid dinged up threads like the 
>> plague, or any minor, visible  imperfections.
>> ##  You really should not have to be mucking about  with  SS hardware 
>> up a tower in a lot of cases.    The
>> SS  hardware, like .25-20,  for boom splices.... and  say 10-24 or  
>> 10-32  or  8-32  SS  hardware + SS
>> nylocks..like if used for ele joint splices.... is all done on the 
>> ground..in advance.
>> ##  If using the double plate scheme... aka.. easy on mount, like  
>> F12  uses  to mount a boom to the mast, I would use
>> galvanized  G-5  hardware to mate the 2 x al plates, which requires a 
>> total of 5 x bolts + 5 nuts.
>> ##  I use the DXE jumbo super mast clamps to hold the Vert plate to 
>> the mast...and those use armor plated  G8
>> bolts and nuts  etc.  Even on the galvanized hardware, I use either 
>> never seize.... or penetrox  on the threads.
>> Jim  VE7RF
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Roger (K8RI)

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