[TowerTalk] Galling and seizing of SS nuts to SS threaded studs and bolts.
Roger (K8RI) on TT
K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net
Mon Jul 3 05:25:58 EDT 2017
CORRECTION! It's a BOX wrench!
On 7/3/2017 Monday 5:23 AM, Roger (K8RI) on TT wrote:
> I have, or had? a 12" T handle about a foot long, but there us now a
> socket wrench that ratchets available in the big box stored and many
> hardware stores. I think the one brand is Cobalt. They seem well made
> and have a nice finish.
>
> 73, Roger (K8RI)
>
> On 7/2/2017 Sunday 1:53 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 09:29:36 -0400
>> From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk at tm.net>
>> To: towertalk at contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Galling and seizing of SS nuts to SS threaded
>> studs and bolts.
>>
>> <Easier than that. Just use Never seize
>> <SS to SS under tension, or just tight fitting will have the nut bonding
>> <to the bolt.
>> <With no preventative You have to twist the bolt off. That can be a
>> real
>> <knuckle buster with 3/8ths or 1/2". Been there, done that.
>>
>> <73, Roger (K8RI)
>>
>> ## agreed. I use the never seize made by Loctite corp. Looks like
>> silver goop. The deluxe version is called marine grade never
>> seize, also
>> made by Loctite corp.
>>
>> ## Where I had real bad issues with galling was when using .25-20
>> SS bolts
>> and mating SS NYLOCKS. The slightest nick or ding on either the
>> SS threads
>> of either the bolt threads ..or SS Nut threads and they would seize
>> up asap. The nylock
>> would bind and gall...and thats b4 the nut was even all the way
>> down. IE: tiny air gap.
>> Then I had to cut the bolt off.... behind the SS nylock... on the
>> inboard side, where the gap
>> lay...with a 1 inch cut off wheel on a dremel. SS bolts +
>> regular SS nuts.... IE : non nylocks
>> have given me zero issues.
>>
>> ## My fix for SS these days..is to..chase the threads with a die
>> 1st..on the bolt. And
>> ditto with a tap into the SS nylock threads. Once both threads are
>> cleaned up, then apply
>> the never seize goop.... onto both bolt threads and Nylock nut
>> threads. End of problem.
>>
>> ## absolute bitch to try and run a die on a SS U bolt though.
>> The ..T handle of the die gets in the
>> way, since the U bolt is parallel threads ! Best I can come up
>> with is to ditch the T handle..and
>> just screw the die onto the SS bolt on both legs of the SS U bolts.
>>
>> ## When buying or storing SS hardware, keep them separated, dont
>> allow the SS threads to get
>> bashed about. If down at your local hard ware store, examine the
>> SS hardware that u pull out of the
>> bins.... b4 you buy anything. Avoid dinged up threads like the
>> plague, or any minor, visible imperfections.
>>
>> ## You really should not have to be mucking about with SS hardware
>> up a tower in a lot of cases. The
>> SS hardware, like .25-20, for boom splices.... and say 10-24 or
>> 10-32 or 8-32 SS hardware + SS
>> nylocks..like if used for ele joint splices.... is all done on the
>> ground..in advance.
>>
>> ## If using the double plate scheme... aka.. easy on mount, like
>> F12 uses to mount a boom to the mast, I would use
>> galvanized G-5 hardware to mate the 2 x al plates, which requires a
>> total of 5 x bolts + 5 nuts.
>>
>> ## I use the DXE jumbo super mast clamps to hold the Vert plate to
>> the mast...and those use armor plated G8
>> bolts and nuts etc. Even on the galvanized hardware, I use either
>> never seize.... or penetrox on the threads.
>>
>> Jim VE7RF
>>
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Roger (K8RI)
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