When we were in undergrad school, we had to really hustle up the gear for a FD operation. No more vertical; just a long long wire and a DX-35. To us, it WAS a contest, of sorts. We lost an hour out of the total and it was like we are on a charcoal fire to recover. You bet we checked our points in the end. Warren W5GEM/W5GB ex-President/trustee