[TowerTalk] Fwd: Fwd: OCFD

jimlux jimlux at earthlink.net
Wed Mar 29 01:33:35 EDT 2017


On 3/28/17 7:18 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
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>
> On 3/28/2017 2:54 PM, jimlux wrote:
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>> because it's not "really" an end effect or capacitance. The actual
>> phenomenon is that  X goes through zero at a frequency where the dipole
>> is not exactly a half wavelength long.  There's a lot of ways you can
>> analyze around it or conceptualize it, but they're just mental models.
>>
>>
>> Another way to think about it is that the propagation velocity down the
>> wire is not c, but slightly slower (because the wire has inductance and
>> free space capacitance, and you can calculate the prop velocity as
>> sqrt(L/C))
>>
>
> The trouble with this description is that it doesn't explain why the
> third harmonic resonance of a dipole is greater that 3X the fundamental
> (half wave) resonance.  OTOH, the "end capacitance" concept neatly
> explains it.  Three times as much wire, but no additional end effects.

True enough. that's why none of the "simple" models adequately model 
higher order resonances (the link to the presentation covers this 
extensively).  Even the antenna text books get a bit hand-wavey on the 
high order resonances - they tend to focus on the first resonance, which 
at least has a fairly straightforward analytical development.

And the same is true of mechanical models too, at least for "real" 
systems.. that infinitely thin vibrating string or rod with no internal 
friction doesn't exist.

I'm just glad that finite element methods are easy and fast to run these 
days, so we don't have to try and do antenna design with analytical 
equations, particular with respect to coupling between elements. With FE 
techniques, you are ultimately worrying about numerical precision and 
things like that, and that's something that for the most part you can 
just throw computational resources at it (e.g. run in double or triple 
precision, it's still fast)

OTOH, if I had to design my antennas with a slide rule and a CRC tables 
book, those analytical methods would be handy.




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