[TowerTalk] Message formatting

Mac libbysales at austin.rr.com
Thu Apr 4 22:48:25 EDT 2019


Ditto Dave,  I had a very hard time reading the message, to the point i 
went in and broke it up just so i could read line by line again..  
mac/mc w5mc

On 4/4/2019 9:45 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
> I have seen an increasing number of posts such as the one below, where 
> the text is all compressed into one hard-to-read paragraph.  Anyone 
> know what's going on?  Maybe it's something on my end?  I don't think 
> it's limited to Towertalk, but it may be limited to contesting.com.  
> I'm not sure.
>
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Yuma, AZ
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> -----Original Message----- From: Byron Tatum
> Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 7:25 AM
> To: Towertalk Reflector
> Subject: [TowerTalk] 130' 45G Gyued Tower Questions
>
> Hello-   I have some questions regarding the effects seen on anchor 
> rods when installing first level of guys on a 130' 45G 
> tower:           The tower is installed per Rohn 130 MPH specs, using 
> same spacing, dimensions and angle of anchor rod (38 deg). The anchor 
> rod is made identical to the Rohn GAC5655TOP being 10' long, 1.25" 
> high strength rod, 1/2" 50 KSI plate at top end of rod but with only 3 
> drilled 13/16" holes for turnbuckles, hole spacing same as Rohn (5655 
> anchor has 5 turnbuckle holes) and concreted in a concrete anchor 
> built per Rohn AB3 dimensions.           I have the tower 
> free-standing at 41' right now using a 5' concrete base section. A guy 
> bracket was installed at 35' per Rohn spec and I attached the 
> guy/turnbuckle to bottom hole in anchor rod plate and tensioned to 
> around 600#. I am seeing the anchor rods bend downward to an angle of 
> around 30 deg as I increase the tension on guy wire. It appears the 
> rods have a very slight, just barely perceptible bow in them, possibly 
> from the wrenching action of the pull being from several inches below 
> the rod center (as plates are welded to rod and not 
> pivoting).             I left the "slots" cut in ground (where anchor 
> rod angles upward from top of concrete to surface of ground) unfilled 
> as I wanted to be able to observe the effects on them and to install 
> protective sheaths on them, where they exit the ground, when tower is 
> finished plus to backfill these with clean sand. The rods were tarred 
> and wrapped for corrosion protection.          I backed the 
> turnbuckles off to a much less guy wire tension in order to reduce the 
> downward pressure on anchor rods and to allow me to install cribbing 
> under the turnbuckle plates to restore my anchor rod angle back to 38 
> deg.          This is the first tower that I have installed with fixed 
> turnbuckle plates welded on an anchor rod. It seems that all of the 
> ones in past had the pivoting turnbuckle plates and I did not notice 
> these effects as the plates pivoted way upward with only bottom guy 
> wire attached.          So my questions are --1. Has anyone else 
> observed these things in installing a similar tower? Possibly if I had 
> backfilled the anchor rods these effects would not have been as easy 
> to detect.2. Would anyone have an opinion regarding using strong 
> cribbing under the turnbuckle plates in order to maintain original 
> installed rod angle of 38 deg. as I restore tension to around 600# on 
> bottom set of guy wires?          I imaging that when I get the second 
> level of guys installed, of which turnbuckle holes are centered on 
> ends of anchor rods themselves, the rods will be pulled upward, closer 
> to the installed angle of 38 deg, and with installation of top set of 
> guys all will balance out for rod angle of 38 deg.         My first 
> experience with fixed turnbuckle plates on anchor rods. Thanks for any 
> comments or advice.Byron W5FH
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