[TowerTalk] Orion 2800 Rotator Cable Replacement

[Bob Shohet, KQ2M]

I “hijacked the topic”?   Clearly you weren’t paying very much attention. The three posts prior to mine had nothing to do with your question – they were discussing THHN, which had nothing to do with what you were using or planning to use.   Jim’s post, which I cited, WAS in response to your question, which is why I kept the subject line.  Ligthten up!

Thanks to Jim Brown and Jim Lux for their helpful and illuminating responses to my question.


Bob, KQ2M


From: Elliott Lawrence via TowerTalk 
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2019 12:05 AM
Cc: towertalk at contesting.com 
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Orion 2800 Rotator Cable Replacement

This is too much of a stretch. Change the SUBJECT line if you are going to hijack the topic!!

> On Dec 10, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Jim Brown <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> 
> On 12/10/2019 2:41 PM, Bob Shohet, KQ2M wrote:
>> My non-engineering understanding of wires and stretch is that a given wire after being subject to variable strength forces over a given period of time, will stretch only so far before it breaks.  Assuming that that is conceptually correct, let’s say that we have two wires – Wire A and Wire B.  Wire A has been pre-stretched before being put up and is now compared against Wire B which has just been put up without being pre-stretched
>> Now we subject both wires to the same forces over the same period of time.  I would expect that going forward Wire A will not stretch as far as Wire B, but is more likely to break and break sooner under significant force than Wire B because it has already been pre-stretched.  Wouldn’t this be correct?
>> If this is not correct, can you please explain why?
> 
> It all depends on what you define as a significant force. I use 100# weights at ground level on the ropes on one end of my high (125 ft) dipoles to maintain tension and allow for "give" with tree sway. That's a LOT less than the pulling tension applied by W6GJB's pickup to stretch and break them.
> 
> Hard drawing copper strengthens it significantly; NEC requirements for wire antennas call for either CCS or hard drawn copper for strength (so they won't break and create a potential shock or fire hazard). The stretching we're doing is a first approximation of hard drawing.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
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