[TowerTalk] Hornet Nest on the End of the Boom - How do you safely get rid of this?

Mon Jul 29 15:52:53 EDT 2019

This is interesting but it reminds me of watching U-tube video and seeing 'fall ridge' guy use paper flower pots mounted on trees to get the bees to use them for building their nest. Seems like you would get the opposite effect inviting the bees to use the area. But those were setup with a hole so the bees could climb in. I'm going to see what happens when I try your paper bag trick and might have an interesting post in the future on this.

Terry
KI7M

> On July 29, 2019 at 11:23 AM Mpridesti via TowerTalk <towertalk at contesting.com> wrote:
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> Wasps are also territorial and by that I mean, when a nest is formed, any new group that comes nearby, will go to another area to nest. Not sure how far away they might go but they stay clear of the area. 
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> Found an interesting solution that keeps wasps from starting a nest was to take a brown paper bag (lunch bag size) and fill it with other plastic bags to fill the paper bag and create the appearance of a large wasp nest.  I tied off a few of these around a swimming pool to keep the area void of wasps. The goal was to safe guard kids that were allergic to bee stings. 
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> This worked very well for many years. 
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> Have used this technique in the inside of my garage (peak of roof) because it looked like a prime spot for nests. No wasps in sight. 
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> Regards,
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> Mark, K1RX
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> > On Jul 29, 2019, at 1:52 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
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> > This was an interesting subject. I did not realize that wasps were carnivores. I have a lot of wasps here in NC and they frequently build nests on my house. They are not really aggressive but often one or two get inside the house and I have to hit them with a fly swatter. For me fire ants are a more annoying issue. I put the pole sprayer shown in Bob's post into my Amazon cart, it looks like a good way to spray hard to reach areas. I really liked W0YK's poison bait suggestion, I wonder what meat he uses? It would have to be hung so racoons, cats and other animals cannot reach it. Since wasps eat bugs and spiders I wondered what the impact would be if they were removed from the environment with poison bait?
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> > John KK9A
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> > Bob Shohet, KQ2M kq2m at kq2m.com
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> > I want to thank everyone that responded and provided helpful information, experiences and anecdotes.  I learned far more than I had ever imagined.   :-)
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> > A little more explanation is in order – for the gentleman that asked, the hornet nest is on the lowest of 8 antennas on that Rohn 100’ tower.  I have a 4 stack of HG105CA 10 meter yagis and a 4 stack of HG155CA 15 meter yagis and the HG105CA at 23’ is the lowest of the 10’s.
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> > I never knew that rotating the antenna (and the hornet nest) in the daytime might cause the hornets to get confused and not realize that that nest, in a different location,  was theirs.  Unfortunately I won’t be able to test that hypothesis because the antenna is not rotatable – it is fixed NE.
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> > Yeah, the idea of using a homemade flamethrower to torch the nest is pretty cool, and I got a kick out of those videos – especially the one with the drone doing the job.  LOL!  But I am not going to do that.  No torches here – it would likely start a forest fire.  Too dangerous all the way around.
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> > On a more practical note, I can not leave the nest up until the Winter because I need to fix antennas and rotators on that tower this Summer – and climbing the tower with that nest so close is literally taking your life in your hands.  I can’t do that – the nest must go.  There is also a another issue...  When you have a large nest, the hornets use it as their base and continually look to expand their territory with new “outposts”.  From past experience, they fly around and try to make smaller nests under the eaves of the house roof and then they colonize and expand that and then spread out some more.  So one massive nest can lead to 20 new additional smaller nests within a matter of weeks, and a far more dangerous situation.  You need to get them when you can.
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> > I can’t speak for the relative differences between hornets in the UK, the South, or Western Canada, but I do know that the hornets that I have experiences with in CT and NH, are VERY aggressive and foul-tempered and they will attack and sting you even if you don’t provoke them.  Just being 10’ – 15’ away from one is enough for it to decide to go after you.   If you happen to stumble into something that there nest is in, like a fencepost that you bump into with a lawnmower, the whole nest will come after you and they will sting you repeatedly if they get the chance.  They are very dangerous, unlike bees and carpenter bees which will generally leave you alone unless you are aggressive towards them.  The white-faced hornets are huge, truly nasty and aggressive and incredibly fast.  You are not safe within 30’ of them.  I don’t know if they are the ones in the nest (I don’t think so), but regardless the nest has to go.
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> > The last thing that you want to do with a nest this size is to attempt to hit it with a jet of water.  All that will do is piss them off – even more so if you knock the nest down to the ground – where hundreds of them will be enraged and looking for something to sting while you struggle to figure out where the nest is buried in the brush/weeds, etc.  That would be a vastly more dangerous situation with a far more uncertain outcome.
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> > Having said that, I am going to do the work myself.
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> > I purchased two cans of water-based Hornet spray from Home-Depot
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> > https://www.homedepot.com/p/Terro-Wasp-and-Hornet-Killer-Spray-T3300-6/203806933?keyword=terro+hornet+spray&semanticToken=21300000011_20190727163736596743_csfj+21300000011+%3E++cnn%3A%7B9%3A1%7D+cnr%3A%7B7%3A1%7D+cnb%3A%7B0%3A0%7D+st%3A%7Bterro+hornet+spray%7D%3Ast+oos%3A%7B0%3A1%7D+br%3A%7Bterro%7D%3Abr+rt%3A%7Bhornet+spray%7D%3Art+dln%3A%7B573612%7D+qu%3A%7Bterro+hornet+spray%7D%3Aqu
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> > and this from Amazon:
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> > https://www.amazon.com/Innovations-GSP0205-Sprayer-Aerosol-Extension/dp/B0042T5PBO/ref=pd_cp_86_1?pd_rd_w=IR8DY&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=EK88FHF224ZYKJF7WVC7&pd_rd_r=6952fae9-b29f-4b98-b88f-66efb0566ee1&pd_rd_wg=iEU9h&pd_rd_i=B0042T5PBO&psc=1&refRID=EK88FHF224ZYKJF7WVC7
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> > I am going to take off the saw from my 16’ pole saw and use the pole to put into the spray can pole adapter and mount the can of Terro in that.  If that doesn’t get me the height that I need then I will use aluminum tubing and tape the device to the end of the tubing.
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> > I have a very heavy duty 8’ wooden step ladder and plan to climb up 2 – 3 steps and then hold the pole in place at almost full extension while I pull the trigger.  The trigger and hornet spray should be ~ 18’ above ground and 5’ up in height should not be too much of a stretch.  I plan to have the can about  5’ away from the nest aiming up 5’, which should be well within the can’s range (even though it says 20’ spray range, I don’t trust that at all.)   I plan to do this when it is almost completely dark and will be wearing a full chemical mask and covered head to toe in clothes and wearing a large brim hat and jacket.  I have done something similar several times before although not from a step ladder and not with a nest this large.
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> > If I don’t like the set-up before I pull the trigger, I will back off and then call an exterminator.  No reason to endanger myself to save a few $.
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> > The powder that Gary, K9GS mentioned is one that an exterminator used here many years ago when we had several nests in a roof vent above my deck.  Not only is it highly toxic to the hornets, but the “genius” is that it relies on the social properties of the insect and their grooming in order to kill them.  One hornet coming into contact with the poison can spread it to the entire nest because each time it touches another hornet, it passes the poison dust onto them and then when they touch another hornet in the nest, they also spread the poison.  Everything in the nest and every insect ultimately because the poison is spread everywhere.  And, even if some hornets are away from the nest, the moment that they come back and touch anything inside, they become poisoned too.   It is ingenious and almost 100% effective in a very short time.
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> > Tnx for all the responses.  It was a lively discussion!
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> > 73
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> > Bob  KQ2M
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