[TowerTalk] Ferrites 31 vs. 77 material

W0MU Mike Fatchett w0mu at w0mu.com
Tue Nov 5 14:16:32 EST 2019


Isn't most JA ham gear Kenwood, Icom, Yaesu made in China these days?  
Maybe assembled in JA?

On 11/5/2019 10:52 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>
> You could make the same generalizations about U.S. quality if you 
> didn't ignore companies like MFJ or some of the antenna manufacturers 
> that can't seem to put all the required parts in the box.
>
> Certainly there are Chinese companies cut every corner possible and 
> put out trash to achieve lowest possible cost, but I still say that's 
> a poor generalization that is rapidly changing and becomes less and 
> less valid every year.  The ones who are trying to compete globally do 
> a much better job of it ... better in many cases than their American 
> counterparts.  What do you think the K4 would look like if Elecraft 
> outsourced the manufacturing to MFJ (a company that like many Chinese 
> companies designs and manufactures to hit a price point imposed by the 
> market)?  I doubt you would even be willing to buy one.
>
> Here is a more objective look at reality:
>
> https://www.intouch-quality.com/blog/youre-wrong-chinese-factories-dont-only-make-poor-quality-products 
>
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
> On 11/5/2019 5:21 AM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
>>> My gripe is that simply bashing anything made in China is decades 
>>> out of date and a bad generalization.
>> Gripe all you want but you've used a few examples to try to refute a
>> generalization that has basis in fact.   There are far too many cases
>> of poor products from outside US and Europe, not just China, that
>> disagree with your belief.
>>
>> Chinese vacuum tube production is all over the place--some are great;
>> others flash over.  Consumer products missing RFI suppression
>> components, and then there's steel quality which has been known to be
>> life threatening when used in critical structural applications. US
>> Gov't procurement has a whole course on how to spot knockoff hardware.
>> Would you go up a tower made in China with Chinese ceramic insulators?
>>   (This is Towertalk after all.)  On the other hand, smartphones from
>> off shore seem to have no issues.    Obviously, when manufacturers
>> enforce QC and micromanage the process, things go well.
>> Otherwise.....cheap ham handy talkies for $20 are the result.
>>
>> I never knew anything about the QC variations in ferrite until K9YC
>> mentioned it.
>>
>> 73
>> Rob
>> K5UJ
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