[TowerTalk] Need a Knot Expert

[Gedas]

I really appreciate all the wonderful suggestions from so many ops both 
direct & via the group. The joining of two ropes part is easy (even for 
me).....my main concern was ending up with a loop to work with so I 
could use it to hoist up a dipole end etc. As one FB op 
suggested,,,,,just make a separate loop slightly above or below your 
fisherman's knot that you used to fasten the two lines together !

That is super simple and yes, maybe something I will try or end up with 
but i was wondering if there was a slick knot that did both at the same 
time.

I am currently holding two ropes trying different ideas from several 
people (not having much luck hi-hi).....I can do the fisherman's knot ok 
and I have mastered the Bowline (by watching a video) but merging 
everything into one so I kill two birds with one stone is still getting 
me. But I will keep at it. TU everyone very much and I hope everyone has 
a Happy Thanksgiving. 73

Gedas, W8BYA

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On 11/27/2019 3:38 PM, Patrick Greenlee wrote:
> A double sheet bend will join a couple lines together.Man made 
> material is slippery compared to natural fiber so a single sheet bend 
> might slip, hence the double.  Worried?  Use a triple.
>
> Patrick        NJ5G
>
> On 11/27/2019 2:20 PM, jimlux wrote:
>> On 11/27/19 10:35 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
>>> On 11/27/2019 7:44 AM, jimlux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or a figure 8 on a doubled rope.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am NOT a knot expert.
>>>
>>> That is why I can highly recommend the figure 8
>>> knot in general, and specifically here
>>> with a doubled rope, and specifically
>>> with 3/16 inch dacron rope.  I have
>>> tied hundreds of these.  I use the
>>> figure 8 for everything.  I don't need
>>> to be an expert to tie it.
>>
>> Exactly..
>>
>>>
>>> I could never learn to correctly tie
>>> a bowline.  The mnemonic such as the
>>> rabbit comes out of the hole, goes
>>> around the tree, and goes into the
>>> hole doesn't uniquely describe a
>>> bow line. 
>>
>> And, worst of all, you might meet your demise at the jaws of a big 
>> fish named Bruce.
>>
>>
>>  The figure 8 is completely
>>> fool proof, doesn't untie itself, yet I
>>> can always get it untied.
>>>
>>> It is easy to double up the rope and tie
>>> a figure 8 with a loop as the original
>>> post asked.  But what if the loop has to
>>> good around a tower leg, etc?  You can't
>>> just tie the loop and drop it over the
>>> tower leg since the bracing gets in the
>>> way.  However, if you are clever, you
>>> still tie the loop around the leg and the
>>> end result looks just like you had
>>> dropped it over the leg.  Too complicated
>>> to explain here how to actually do it.
>>
>>
>> Make a loose single figure 8 with a long free end.
>> Take the end of the free end and follow the rope back through the 
>> figure 8.
>>
>> As a check, take a doubled rope and tie a figure8 (to make a loop). 
>> Check if it looks right.
>>
>> That is the huge virtue of the figure 8 - It has a specific, simple 
>> look, and if you're unsure, you can untie and retie. And, it has a 
>> shape that is easy to feel in the dark.
>>
>> Between the figure 8 and a variety of half hitches (some with 
>> multiple turns), you can do just about anything you need.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick N6RK
>>>
>>>
>>
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