[TowerTalk] Grounding
john at kk9a.com
john at kk9a.com
Wed Sep 4 20:52:56 EDT 2019
I thought that Green Heron has built in thyristors to protect the
controller's components.
John KK9a
Quoting wc1m73 at gmail.com:
> I agree that simply disconnecting the coax isn't enough, and that a
> quality whole house surge protector is a good idea. It certainly
> can't hurt. But I highly recommend designing the station so that
> *all* wires between the tower(s)/antenna(s) and the building can be
> easily disconnected, with the possible exception of the ground
> cables (see discussion below.) Belt and suspenders are worth every
> penny.
>
> 12 years ago I had a lightning surge that caused over $10K in damage
> to $30K worth of equipment (had I not done all of the
> troubleshooting and repair myself, the bill would have been much
> higher.) Luckily, my home insurance covered it. I've posted
> extensively on TT about that event, so I won't repeat all of the
> gory details here, but wanted to point out that the strike did not
> hit the tower. It hit a tree several hundred feet from the tower,
> and the damage was caused by an induced surge. Damage on the tower
> was pretty minimal -- just the destruction of four relay diodes in
> the stack match and complete vaporization of a wide ground trace on
> its PCB (the only place where I found any scorch marks or physical
> evidence of the surge.) Other than that, none of the hardline,
> coax, cables or antenna switch relays were damaged. FWIW, the
> shields of all the hardline and coax were bonded to the tower at the
> top and bottom, and the relays were configured to be open rather
> than shorted when not selected. None of the 24 SteppIR motors and
> none of the four rotors on the tower were damaged. The rest of the
> damage was indoors, as described below.
>
> The tower that took the surge has a Ufer ground with three 50'
> radials of 1/0 buried stranded cable, each Cadwelded to four 8'
> ground rods spaced 16' apart (12 rods total). As it's 225' from the
> shack, there's no ground cable running between the tower and the SPG
> at the shack entrance (Polyphaser says that past 75' the grounds
> don't "see" each other.) That said, there are two runs of 1-5/8"
> heliax between the tower ground and shack SPG, and the huge
> corrugated copper shields probably have much lower inductance than a
> 1/0 ground wire. So if the grounds can see each other past 75', I
> think they're pretty-well bonded together. I have bulkhead
> Polyphaser coaxial surge suppressors for every RF cable mounted
> through the bottoms of metal utility cabinets at both ends (tower
> and SPG), as well as panel-mounted surge suppressors in the utility
> boxes with two MOVs and a fuse on both ends of each control wire.
> All shields and ground wires are grounded at both ends. The tower
> and SPG ground systems are bonded to the metal cabinets via 1/0
> stranded wire. The SPG is also bonded to all the other ground
> systems that enter the house -- telco, cable, satellite, electric.
> Unfortunately, they external drops for those grounds are on the
> other side of the house, so I had to run the bonding cable from the
> utility cabinets directly a cross the basement ceiling to the
> utility entry panel. It wasn't clear to me that installing a couple
> hundred feet of ground wire around the house with 15-20 ground rods
> Cadwelded to it was a better way to bond the grounds. Open to
> discussion on that.
>
> My theory on how the destruction occurred is that the surge was
> handled by the coax surge protectors, and most of the MOVs, but the
> MOVs connected to my three SteppIR controllers were of too high a
> value to protect the delicate ICs. They were more suitable for
> protecting old-style rotor controllers, which didn't have any
> delicate ICs. As it was, the motor control FETs in my three Green
> Heron controllers were destroyed, but I believe the GH circuit
> design is such that the FETs acted as fuses to protect the CPUs and
> other electronics. Not so the SteppIR controllers. Their delicate
> SMD driver chips were fried, and the surge made it past them to the
> RS-232 transceiver interface. From there it got to the computer,
> destroyed the motherboard, CPU and multiport RS-232 card, and then
> propagated to every device connected to that card, including a
> Ten-Tec Orion (totaled), an Alpha 87A (RS232 IC fried and CPU
> partially damaged) an Acom 2000A (RS232 IC and CPU fried), a
> MicroHam StackMaX controller (totaled), a W5XD keyer (RS232 IC and
> CPU). The StackMax could have been damaged by the voltage threshold
> of the MOVs in the suppressors being rated too high. I also lost the
> RS-232 level converter between an FT-1000D and the computer, but
> there was no damage to the radio. Evidently, the level converter
> saved the radio.
>
> I also had damage to a very expensive high-end CD player, a
> C/Ku-band satellite dish LNB, a C/Ku-band 4DTV satellite receiver, a
> C/Ku-band satellite TV DVB PCI card in the computer, a Dish
> satellite receiver, a garage door opener, a phone line, a digital
> scale (totaled via RS232 from the computer), and a ROKU media
> processor. I believe the damage to those devices came via the
> C/Ku-band satellite TV DVB PCI card in the aforementioned computer,
> which was on the same PCI bus as the RS-232 card. It's possible the
> surge was picked up by one or both satellite dishes, damaging the
> entertainment system devices and propagating to the computer via the
> DVB card, and to all the station devices, but given the damage and
> the destruction of the SteppIR and GH motor drivers, I think it was
> the other way around (or maybe both.) No power supplies were
> damaged, and no devices outside the shack and entertainment center
> were damaged, except the garage door opener and telco line. I've
> lost several garage door openers after lightning storms, and have
> read that they're quite susceptible to lightning (I suspect the long
> wires to the manual switches acts like an antennas.) The damage to
> the telco line was outside the house, so evidently it picked up the
> surge there and the indoor suppressors did their job.
>
> After repairing all the damage, I designed and installed a large
> patch panel so I could quickly disconnect the many cables between
> the tower and shack. It wasn't feasible to locate the panel outside,
> which would have been preferable, so I installed it in a basement
> closet. All the cables passing through the utility cabinets that are
> connected to the SPG enter the house just above the sill, easily
> routed down to the panel. The station side cables run from the patch
> panel up through the basement ceiling into the shack. There are
> about 20 or so cables on the patch panel, most of them multi-wire.
> It takes about five minutes to disconnect all of them. I also
> installed electrical disconnect panels so I can quickly cut off the
> shack circuits from the house AC. My two amps and a couple of power
> supplies, routers, etc. are also located in the closet, where I can
> quickly unplug them from the AC as well.
>
> I built a smaller panel on the other side of the wall behind our
> entertainment center so I could disconnect it from the rooftop TV/FM
> and satellite TV antennas, and there's also an AC disconnect box in
> there.
>
> Normally, I leave all the cables disconnected when the station isn't
> in use. I only disconnect AC and TV cables when we go on vacation or
> there's a really nasty storm in the area.
>
> Note that I replaced the MOVs in the surge suppressors connected to
> the SteppIR and (I think) GH controllers with MOVs that have as low
> a value as I could get without going below the operating voltage of
> the driver outputs.
>
> This setup has worked well for 12 years, but I hasten to point out
> that although we've had our share of lightning storms since then,
> our area isn't prone to them and we haven't seen anything near as
> nasty as the one that hit my station in 2007. So I'm not resting on
> my laurels and am always on the lookout for anything I can do to
> reduce the risk of lightning damage.
>
> [BTW, if TT was on groups.IO, as I've pleaded for, I would be able
> to attach photos of my patch panel, surge suppressors, tower, etc.
> And likely the text of my post would have been shorter, one picture
> being worth the proverbial 1,000 words!]
>
> Hope this is helpful to someone.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john at kk9a.com <john at kk9a.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 11:45 AM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding
>
> GL rebuilding Keith.
>
> A tower lightning strike will cause an induced voltage spike in a
> home's electrical system, even if nothing is connected to the tower.
> I have had this occur while building a new tower and the control
> cables and coax were not yet connected or even touching the tower.
> Simply disconnecting the coax which many hams do is ineffective
> lightning protection. There is a lot of valuable protection
> information on this list. Assuming that you have a bunch of ground
> rods and a SPG, I would suggest a good whole house surge protector.
>
> John KK9A
>
> from [Keith Dutson] NM5G
>
> My experience is that lightning can be managed, to a point. A
> direct strike to your tower can be catastrophic. I suffered one on
> May 9. My daughter lives about 600 feet away and witnessed the
> strike. She said sparks flew in all directions. My losses are
> huge. I am working with the insurance company, and expect the total
> damage to be well in excess of $50K. There is evidence that high
> voltage appeared on the tower, power lines, phone lines
> (fiber) and even on my wi-fi connection from the house to the shack.
> Every gigabit switch was toasted, and every PC connected was blown.
> Another big loss was two large screen TVs, both connected to
> internet via gigabit switches. Repairs were successful by replacing
> the power supplies.
>
> All this, plus my main two stations, both with Yaesu FTDX9000D and
> Alpha 87A, are gone. Coax was not even connected because I had just
> reconfigured the station and had not completed the coax switching
> section. However, units were plugged into power, and the Yaesu
> transceivers were connected to the PCs.
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
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