[TowerTalk] DACRON ROPE CLARIFICATIONS Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 216, Issue 7

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Tue Dec 8 14:37:56 EST 2020 

Steve

In my recent experience ( I have not bought from you but there is always 
the next order 8^). There are two basic rope designs out there these days.

One I will call the "rope within rope". Usually consists of a core rope 
(stranded or braided)  with a 2nd braided sleeve  over the core. The 
braided sleeve is not physically attached to the core .

The 2nd type is  what I would call a fully integrated  braided rope 
where the entire cross section of the rope is one solid braid
Which is yours?

Dave
ArtekManuals

On 12/8/2020 2:07 PM, Steve Davis | Davis RF wrote:
> Hi T Talkers,
>
> STI of California was mentioned below.  I used to buy from them but switched to another USA Mfr. who provides stronger rope at lower prices.  STI supplies some ham dealers and I supply the rest. My rope is stronger, size per size than they sell.  DX Engineering also sells STI.
>
> I haven't checked lately but my prices are lower than other dealers.
>
>    Ref. buying from DAVIS RF, my affiliate which I started years ago:   My other company noted, DavisRopeAndCable.com, has more variety of rope.  I still work with both companies.  Confusing?  HI   My last name is Davis, i.e. the two similar co's.
>     Thanks, Steve  K1PEK
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>     1. Re: Dacron Line for Dipole Needed (David Gilbert)
>     2. Re: Dacron Line for Dipole Needed (Nidhog)
>     3. Recommendation for Rope Supplier  Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol
>        216, Issue 6 (Steve Davis | Davis RF)
>     4. Re: Recommendation for Rope Supplier Re: TowerTalk Digest,
>        Vol 216, Issue 6 (Steven Katz)
>     5. Dacron (Rob Atkinson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 10:29:13 -0700
> From: David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com>
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Dacron Line for Dipole Needed
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> I've bought LOTS of black dacron line over the years because we used it
> for supporting various wire antennas in tall trees for Field Day.? I
> bought most of it from Davis RF, and the stuff is still holding up
> strong even after many years in the Arizona sun.? It comes in various
> thicknesses and you can buy it by the foot.
>
> http://www.davisrf.com/dacron.php
>
> Depending upon what thickness you think you need, 200 feet will probably
> cost you between $20 and $25 plus shipping.
>
> 73,
> Dave?? AB7E
>
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>
>
> On 12/7/2020 9:03 AM, Mike Ryan wrote:
>>    I am looking for 200ft of black (or other color) Dacron line for suspending
>> some dipoles. Any recommended sources (w/ good pricing) out there?  Also
>> need ONE just one, 502 guy wire insulator.   - Mike
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> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 12:40:28 -0500
> From: Nidhog <robrk at nidhog.net>
> Cc: towertalk at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Dacron Line for Dipole Needed
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> https://www.dxengineering.com/search/part-type/rope?SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending&keyword=Rope&kr=Rope
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>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:29, David Gilbert <ab7echo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> I've bought LOTS of black dacron line over the years because we used it for supporting various wire antennas in tall trees for Field Day.  I bought most of it from Davis RF, and the stuff is still holding up strong even after many years in the Arizona sun.  It comes in various thicknesses and you can buy it by the foot.
>>
>> http://www.davisrf.com/dacron.php
>>
>> Depending upon what thickness you think you need, 200 feet will probably cost you between $20 and $25 plus shipping.
>>
>> 73,
>> Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 12/7/2020 9:03 AM, Mike Ryan wrote:
>>>   I am looking for 200ft of black (or other color) Dacron line for suspending
>>> some dipoles. Any recommended sources (w/ good pricing) out there?  Also
>>> need ONE just one, 502 guy wire insulator.   - Mike
>>>
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> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 18:05:19 +0000
> From: Steve Davis | Davis RF <sdavis at davisrf.com>
> To: "towertalk at contesting.com" <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Cc: "mryan001 at tampabay.rr.com" <mryan001 at tampabay.rr.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Recommendation for Rope Supplier  Re: TowerTalk
>          Digest, Vol 216, Issue 6
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> Hi Mike,  My firm sells a variety of Dacron (aka Polyester) double braid rope which is resistant to UV, rot, mildew and abrasion.  MADE IN USA.
>
> Our rope is less expensive than other ham dealers, but is high quality, made in USA, and stronger size vs. size of other dealers.  We have many types/sizes/constructions of other types which we sell to numerous industries, military, etc. We give the same low wholesale prices to our fellow hams.
>
> Please contact me directly for pricing.  We sell a lot to hams for hanging wire dipoles, masts, small towers, etc.
>
>    73,  Steve  K1PEK    DavisRopeAndCable.com   (not to be confused with our affiliate DAVIS RF Co., a separate entity and location, which I am the founder and also fully involved with.)
>
> NOTE: The tel # on our website is incorrect and the web hosting co. has to fix it.  The correct #  is  978  618  0496
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:03:08 -0500
> From: "Mike Ryan" <mryan001 at tampabay.rr.com>
> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
>          <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Dacron Line for Dipole Needed
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>   I am looking for 200ft of black (or other color) Dacron line for suspending
> some dipoles. Any recommended sources (w/ good pricing) out there?  Also
> need ONE just one, 502 guy wire insulator.   - Mike
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 18:26:58 +0000
> From: Steven Katz <stevek at jmr.com>
> To: "towertalk at contesting.com" <towertalk at contesting.com>
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> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Recommendation for Rope Supplier Re:
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> I get this rope directly from the manufacturer, Synthetic Textiles Inc. in Anaheim, CA.
>
> Been using a lot of it since 1993, when it was first introduced.
>
> As it reads on their website,
>
> "STI's Double-braided Polyester Antenna Support Rope was originally developed and manufactured at the constant urging of a local Ham radio operator. His years of expertise in amateur radio equipment, combined with ours in braiding various fiber, inspired the development of this special double-braided rope to fit the needs of amateur radio operators.
>
>   "STI's Double-braided Polyester ropes are not weakened by decay or mildew and provide excellent resistance to abrasion. The color sealed black polyester yarn used in the braided jacket also protects the cord from ultra-violet light."
>
> I urged them to make this rope available to the "ham radio antenna installer" market in 1993, back when they were two women running the shop in Ventura, CA and bought five 1000' spools of each size offered.  They've since relocated to Anaheim, but I believe the rope is the same.
>
> de WB2WIK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Steve Davis | Davis RF
> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:05 AM
> To: towertalk at contesting.com
> Cc: mryan001 at tampabay.rr.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Recommendation for Rope Supplier Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 216, Issue 6
>
> Hi Mike,  My firm sells a variety of Dacron (aka Polyester) double braid rope which is resistant to UV, rot, mildew and abrasion.  MADE IN USA.
>
> Our rope is less expensive than other ham dealers, but is high quality, made in USA, and stronger size vs. size of other dealers.  We have many types/sizes/constructions of other types which we sell to numerous industries, military, etc. We give the same low wholesale prices to our fellow hams.
>
> Please contact me directly for pricing.  We sell a lot to hams for hanging wire dipoles, masts, small towers, etc.
>
>    73,  Steve  K1PEK    DavisRopeAndCable.com   (not to be confused with our affiliate DAVIS RF Co., a separate entity and location, which I am the founder and also fully involved with.)
>
> NOTE: The tel # on our website is incorrect and the web hosting co. has to fix it.  The correct #  is  978  618  0496
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:03:08 -0500
> From: "Mike Ryan" <mryan001 at tampabay.rr.com>
> To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
>          <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Dacron Line for Dipole Needed
> Message-ID: <000001d6ccb2$7553cec0$5ffb6c40$@tampabay.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
>
>   I am looking for 200ft of black (or other color) Dacron line for suspending some dipoles. Any recommended sources (w/ good pricing) out there?  Also
> need ONE just one, 502 guy wire insulator.   - Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 05:34:34 -0600
> From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
> To: towertalk <towertalk at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Dacron
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> Don W7WLL posted this link about a year and a half ago
> https://www.eversoncordage.com/tarred-seine-twine
> and according to some, this stuff used by fishing operations is less
> expensive and stands up to wind, salt water and UV.
>
>> On 4/19/2019 8:25 PM, Don wrote:
>> That is what I use out here on the left coast, a tarred twisted line that is produced by a firm (Evanston?) up in the Seattle area. Used by the fishing fleets up and down the left coast for numerous purposes. I've never had >one break under the most severe conditions. Do need to secure the ends because it is twisted. A little flame or dipped in resin. Available at ship chandlers and suppliers. Withstands salt, UV and rain. I have one antenna >that it has held up for 17 years and still looks good.
>
> Rob
> K5UJ
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