[TowerTalk] Greyline Performance antennas
kdutson at sbcglobal.net
kdutson at sbcglobal.net
Sat Oct 17 15:30:19 EDT 2020
I have used Force 12 vertical dipoles on two DXpeditions, with excellent results.
In 2004 I went to Falkland Islands and carried a Force 12 40XK. It was one of three antennas we used. It actually provided more contacts than did the Mosley mini33 tri-bander. Plus, one day with high winds broke one of the traps on the Mosley, that we discovered upon return. See photos here:
http://dutson.net/Ham/gtdx/dxpeditions/2004/Photos/index.html
In 2006 I went to Malta and took a Force 12 Sigma 80. We made a bunch of contacts on that vertical dipole, and I ended up giving it to the local club for their use after we departed. I just did not want to lug it back to the USA.
73, Keith NM5G
VP8DXL, 9H3KD
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From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Kim Elmore
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2020 11:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Greyline Performance antennas
I have a F12 Sigma 80 antenna, which is an OCF vertical dipole with inductive loading at the feed point and a hairpin match. While it
*requires* a common-mode choke at the feed point, it works very well for DX. On stateside contacts, I think its radiation angle is too low and performance for anything within about 400 mi is much worse than for my inverted V with (apex at 40 ft). On DX, though, it does MUCH better than the inverted V. I have no radials beneath this antenna.
I know a friend is buying a Greyline antenna for his QTH. They initially look a bit pricey, but I've not actually seen one, so I don't what the build quality is truly like. Assuming it's build quality is pretty good, and assuming it has a good CM choke, there's no reason why it shouldn't perform relatively well given the constraints. Certainly better than no antenna at all!
Kim N5OP
On 10/16/2020 7:27 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> A better way to describe these is that they are an off center fed
> vertical dipole. No helical loading. They are working on a 40 ft
> version. I'm seriously considering a 28 ft one over salt water.
> Tuner at the base.73,Gary K9GS
> -------- Original message --------From: Jim Brown
> <jim at audiosystemsgroup.com> Date: 10/16/20 5:55 PM (GMT-06:00) To:
> towertalk at contesting.com Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Greyline Performance
> antennas On 10/16/2020 2:26 PM, k7lxc--- via TowerTalk wrote:> Can
> anyone shed some light onto the verticals from Greyline Performance?Hi
> Steve,The website describes these as vertical dipoles. That suggests
> that they are helically loaded. Vertical dipoles don't need radials.
> They can center fed or off-center fed. The tallest of these flagpoles,
> at 28 ft, could work fairly well on 80M. An important caveat though --
> field strength from vertically polarized antennas is strongly
> dependent on soil conductivity. That is, the better the soil in the
> far field in direction you're trying to work, the better they work.73,
> Jim
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