[TowerTalk] Moving ham radio eflectors to permit attachments

[Keith Dutson]

 I am a member of three Google groups.  I have paid zero.  I have no more unwanted email than anyone else I know.
73, Keith NM5G
    On Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 02:58:25 PM CST, Bryan Fields <bryan at bryanfields.net> wrote:  
 
 On 12/21/21 8:53 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> Since my earlier posting, I have learned that since February, 2021, 
> groups.io has charged for groups larger than 100 members. While I think 
> donations could easily cover these costs, and would be willing to 
> administer a donations account on Paypal, that might be just too much 
> complexity for some sysops.  In that case, how about Google Groups?  So 
> far as I can tell, their email groups are completely free, regardless of 
> size.

On the internet when you don't pay for the product, you are the product.
However most (all?) providers are still monetizing your content even if you're
paying.  Look at the yahoo groups debacle.  They decided to shut it down but
had restricted the content to prevent you from leaving, unless you were
willing to pay.

Take a look at the ToS for groups.io: https://groups.io/static/tos
Much like Godaddy, they have no issue immediately deleting content they don't
care for.

I'd suggest looking at mailman3: https://list.org/
A VPS to host your own list is stupid cheap, all you need is some time to set
it up.  In general most lists allow 100k in the body, and this is for good
reason, as each email is unique do to VERP.  There's no need to attach huge
things to email, use a web host for it.

That said, I run a few lists where we permit larger bodies, up to 20mb, and
mailman/postfix handles it just fine.

This list is run on mailman2, the older but very stable version.  I admin a
list of about 15k members and we have archives going back to 1992.  Had we
outsourced this, it would have been lost at least a few times.

73s
-- 
Bryan Fields

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http://bryanfields.net
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