[TowerTalk] 80m vertical ideas / questions

[Máximo EA1DDO_HK1H]

Hi Paul,

I can provide you a high performance diagram for a 80m vertical antenna.
It is based on a 12m spiderbeam pole (fibreglass).
Next document contains the details. Apologies, it is in spanish, but diagrams and pictures are self explanatory.

http://www.ea1ddo.es/Vertical%2080m%20EA6WX.pdf

73, Maximo EA1DDO



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De: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces at contesting.com> en nombre de N1BUG <paul at n1bug.com>
Enviado: jueves, 30 de diciembre de 2021 10:00
Para: towertalk at contesting.com <towertalk at contesting.com>
Asunto: [TowerTalk] 80m vertical ideas / questions

Hi Towertalkers,

I spent much time this summer rebuilding after storm damage last winter.
As part of that I upgraded from inverted V's at 90 and 105 feet for 30m
and 40m to an OptiBeam OB1-4030 at 108 feet. I expected improvement but
Wow! I wasn't prepared for what I observed! The old antennas on another
tower were left up for a few weeks to make comparisons. Unbelievable. I
now consider "inverted V" roughly synonymous to "dummy load".

So... 80m is now my worst performing band, still using an inverted V
there. I can work stuff with a shunt fed tower on 160 that I cannot work
on 80. I'm thinking a quarter wave vertical for 80 would probably be an
improvement and surely no worse. Plus it would eliminate a set of ropes
that are somewhat in the way of other projects. But I don't want to have
another guyed structure for reasons I won't get into for now.

I looked at the DX Engineering self supporting 80m verticals. Nice, but
they won't fit the budget any time soon.

So here is a question: Would 30 feet (real height 28 feet) of Rohn 25 be
OK freestanding with a 35 foot whip on top? I have a 30 foot whip made
from aluminum tubing, tapering from 1.5" down to 1/2". It could be
extended to 35 feet with a section of 1.75" OD 0.120 wall tubing I have
laying around. I'm confident this whip would be fine, but not sure the
Rohn 25 would be OK self supporting with this on top. A 1992 Rohn
catalog says 6.4 square feet of antenna with no ice, dropping to 2.5
square feet with 1/2" ice. That is for 70 MPH wind and assumes one 5/8"
feedline on each tower face. There would be no feedlines and being
sheltered by trees this thing would never see 70 MPH winds. 50, maybe.
Any experience or wisdom on this?

My main concern is not that this thing would come crashing down, but
that every Rohn 25 tower I have ever taken down that did not have guys
on the topmost section had seriously elongated bolt holes. I'm not sure
what the deal is there since Rohn seems to be saying they should be OK
with small antenna loads.

Another option might be 28' of tower, air wound loading coil, and
somewhat shorter whip.

Base insulators could be a problem (budget-wise) but I see no reason not
to ground and shunt feed a 1/4 wave vertical. I wonder if it might even
cover CW and SSB by adjusting the shunt feed capacitor without needing
to move the tap point on the vertical? Comments?

Happy New Year to all and thanks in advance for any comments or
suggestions regarding my vertical thoughts.

73,
Paul N1BUG
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