[TowerTalk] 80 Meter trap design needed
Mark - N5OT
r-emails at n5ot.com
Sat Oct 23 16:06:05 EDT 2021
Well THAT is just way too much fun. I might have to give it a try!
Been a fan of W7ZOI since I was a teenager.
Back in the 1970s it was "a QRP transmitter and an RF resistance
bridge." I'm guessing that is what they had to do before there were
MFJ-259Bs etc.
Thanks,
73 - Mark N5OT
On 10/23/2021 2:36 PM, Haring family wrote:
> I see Jim Brown weighed in... and it reminded me of something.
>
> I saw a design that Dan, AC6LA, wrote up in his stuff about AutoEZ...
> about an auto-switching 2-bander. It was originally done by W7ZOI and
> then some other guys used it and wrote articles.
>
> It was originally used for 2 harmonic bands, but Dan confirmed that he
> can use it basically on any 2 adjacent bands.
>
> The scheme was to insert an L-network, where the shunt was a cap and
> the series was an L and C in series. For the low band, the LC was
> close to series resonant and the shunt had negligible effect. For the
> high band, the shunt dropped the impedance and the series-series L-C
> tuned it a little.
>
> Here's a good link with references, even if you don't play with AutoEZ:
> https://ac6la.com/aecollection6.html#64
>
> _*Dual-Band Vertical with "Autopilot" Matching Network*_
>
> Here's a little modeling study which uses both the EZNEC "L Networks"
> feature and the AutoEZ optimizer in sort of a unique way.
>
> In 1977 Wes Hayward, W7ZOI, described an interesting dual-band
> matching network. His Hints and Kinks QST submission is reproduced below.
>
> good luck!
>
> Dave N3AC
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 9:31 AM Mark - N5OT <r-emails at n5ot.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Joe, this was just what I was looking for. I knew someone
> must
> have done this before. I've slept since I last read about the Battle
> Creek Special. Legendary skyhook.
>
> 73 - Mark N5OT
>
> On 10/23/2021 8:16 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> >
> > I think there are designs on the old "Battle Creek Special" web
> pages.
> > Try: <https://www.pi4cc.nl/link/mkII.php>
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> > On 2021-10-23 7:56 AM, Mark - N5OT wrote:
> >> I hope to make a trap vertical that works on 80 and 160. I
> hope to
> >> find an 80 meter trap design that can handle full power. The 80
> >> meter energy would stop when it gets to the trap, but the trap
> would
> >> pass 160 meter energy.
> >>
> >> It won't be suspended with wire so smallness and
> lightweightness are
> >> not necessary criteria. I hope someone can just shoot me a design
> >> and values. Everything I find searching the internet is less
> >> straightforward than "make a coil like this and stick a
> capacitor of
> >> this value here" which I would think would be the easiest way
> forward.
> >>
> >> Any advice?
> >>
> >> 73 - Mark N5OT
> >>
> >
>
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