[TowerTalk] FW: Re: New N6LF Ground Probe Designs

[j_stein]

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-------- Original message --------From: Leeson <leeson at earthlink.net> Date: 3/4/24  12:15 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: towertalk at contesting.com Cc: Brian Beezley <k6sti at att.net> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] New N6LF Ground Probe Designs I still think of the foreground slope concept as "Moxon Slopes," from the work and publications of Les Moxon, G6XN, who was a great personal inspiration to me.An interesting related question for which I don't find many references is the HF propagation over a foreground knife-edge ridge that, while lower than the antenna that "sees" over it, is close and high enough to block ground reflection angles up to, say, 12-15°. This includes the complication of diffraction as well as ray tracing. A start is "HF Terrain Assessment" by KR7C, see especially pp. 15-18,https://k0rv.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/hf-terrain-analysis.pdfI think the pattern above the ridge, after giving effect to diffraction, is pretty much the same as without the blockage, with "diffraction wiggles" at the point it hits the ridge. But from that elevation angle down to the horizon it seems the lack of ground reflection denies the 6 dB potential gain, but removes the cancellation at the horizon, yielding a regime more like the free-space pattern of the antenna.For an antenna high enough to see over a ridge, it will typically be high enough to have a substantial number of nulls, once it finally can clear the blockage angle. Any additional comments, techniques and references would be appreciated.Here are some additional online references that may be of interest in the general subject of ground reflection and slope.M. Weissberger, et al., "Radio Wave Propagation: A Handbook of Practical Techniques for Computing Basic Transmission Loss and Field Strength," 1962, https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA122090.pdfP. D. Rockwell, "Station Design for DX, Part I -- Antenna Topics and Siting," QST, Sept 1966, pp. 50-54, https://www.rfcafe.com/references/qst/station-design-dx-september-1966-qst.htmG. Hagn, "HF Receiving Antenna Directivity Patterns and Gain for Ionospheric Propagation Model Predictions for Short-Wave Broadcasting," IEEE Trans Broadcasting, Volume 34, Issue 2, June 1988, pp. 221-229, https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1439J. K Breakall, et al., "The modeling and measurement of HF antenna skywave radiation patterns in irregular terrain," IEEE Transactions on Antennas, Volume 42, Issue 7, July 1994, pp. 936-945, https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/299595R. D. Straw, "What I've Learned in Two Decades of Terrain Assessment by N6BV," video, 2013, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6nRpeVseScR. D. Straw, "Terrain Assessment for HF Contesting," 2014, https://seapac.org/seminars/2014/sea-pac2014-n6bv-Terrain%20Assessment.pdfD. B. Leeson, "Match HF Antennas to the Ionosphere & Terrain," 2017, https://www.dropbox.com/s/hhc00iy6t4h509c/Ionospheric%20Radio%20REDXA_sm.pdf?dl=0D. B. Leeson, "Siting and Installation of Yagi Antennas," Ch. 10 in "Physical Design of Yagi Antennas," 1992, available online at https://www.dropbox.com/s/hmhkeofz0igrg1e/Physical%20Design%20Of%20Yagi%20Antennas%20D%20B%20Leeson%20V2.pdf?dl=073 de Dave, W6NL/HC8LOn 3/3/24 4:43 PM, Brian Beezley wrote:> Just a note that Rudy Severns, N6LF, has put all 35 of his published > Antenna Compendium, Communications Quarterly, NCJ, QEX, and QST articles > in one place. Each article is a PDF file in magazine format. So much > good stuff. Just click on the article you want:> > https://www.antennasbyn6lf.com/> > The reference I gave to his original soil parameter article was actually > to a preliminary version. Here's the final article:> > https://rudys.typepad.com/files/qex-nov-dec-2006-soil-parameters-at-hf.pdf> > The article N6RK mentioned about determining ground parameters with a > low dipole is here:> > https://rudys.typepad.com/files/qex-nov-dec-2016-soil-characteristics-using-low-dipole.pdf > > > Brian> > _______________________________________________> > > > _______________________________________________> TowerTalk mailing list> TowerTalk at contesting.com> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk______________________________________________________________________________________________TowerTalk mailing listTowerTalk at contesting.comhttp://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk