On 4/7/2025 2:09 PM, Alan Swinger wrote: > NOAA and other sites tell how to determine true North. I used online government data on the exact time of noon at my QTH, and got north from the shadow cast by my two towers. A short mast, either held erect by an assistant or in a tripod works fine anywhere we have direct sunlight at noon. 73, Jim K9YC