[TowerTalk] 1/4 wave vertical with counterpoise

David Gilbert ab7echo at gmail.com
Sat Jan 17 17:17:04 EST 2026


As a system it's the same electrically, but physically and individually 
I think it's a bit different.  A bent leg of a dipole has not very much 
distributed capacitance and a considerable distributed inductance, all 
of which it gets by being a wire.  A mesh counterpoise isn't bent at all 
... it can be thought of as a greatly expanded wire (think 
mushroom-shaped) with not much inductance and a lot of capacitance.

Anyway, as I've tried to say here several times ... all of these 
configurations (radials, mesh, EVEN THE EARTH if you don't bypass it) 
are basically counterpoises.  They just have different physical and 
parameter tradeoffs.

Dave  AB7E



On 1/17/2026 2:53 PM, Steve Dyer W1SRD via TowerTalk wrote:
> Isn't a quarter wave vertical with a counterpoise just a bent dipole?
> Remember the CrankIR?
> 73,
> Steve
> W1SRD



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