From n6tr@teleport.com Mon Dec 1 03:37:38 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:37:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] I'm back...
Message-ID: <199712010337.TAA04764@user1.teleport.com>
Just got in from the airport and breezed through my 500 some odd mail
messages.
I have deleted the fluff and will work on the meat over the next
few days. Please be patient.
1. The BBS was down for some reason - looks like it got confused during
a power outage.
2. The latest version uses Control-End to get to the band map (per the
release notes).
73 Tree N6TR
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From kg5u@hal-pc.org Mon Dec 1 10:57:50 1997
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L. Martin)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 04:57:50 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] VP8 Multiplier and Other Zones
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During the CQ WW CW Contest, I worked VP8CRT, but TRLog did not record =
it as a=20
mult. Any reason why it is not a mult? How does it differentiate =
between Falklands
and South Shetlands and Antarctica? Is it in the suffix?=20
I also received a couple of QSO's in which the sending station sent me a =
zone=20
different from what the log expected or what Post determined:=20
A VE (XO7X?) sent zone 4, but Post says it should be zone 5.=20
A IS9/ sent zone 33, but Post says it should be 15.=20
What do I do in those cases? Except for the VP8 (if it is Falklands),=20
none were zone mults. =20
I wish my rotor had worked as well as TRLog....the rotor stopped=20
working at 2000Z (not on the dot, but close enough) Sunday. =20
The upside was that it stopped while the beam was pointing=20
northeast--got Euros all afternoon :-), but no JA/VK's :-(
Thanks and 73,
=20
Dale Martin, KG5U
kg5u@hal-pc.org
http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u
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During the CQ WW CW Contest, I =
worked VP8CRT,=20
but TRLog did not record it as a
mult. =
Any reason why=20
it is not a mult? How does it differentiate between =
Falklands
and South Shetlands and Antarctica? Is it in =
the suffix?=20
I also received a couple of QSO's in which the =
sending station=20
sent me a zone
different from what the log expected or what Post =
determined:=20
A VE (XO7X?) sent zone 4, but Post says it =
should be=20
zone 5.
A IS9/ sent zone 33, but Post says it should be 15.=20
What do I do in those cases? Except for the =
VP8 (if it=20
is Falklands),
none were zone mults.
I wish my rotor had worked as well =
as=20
TRLog....the rotor stopped
working at =
2000Z (not on the=20
dot, but close enough) Sunday.
The upside was that it stopped while the beam was =
pointing=20
northeast--got Euros all afternoon :-), but no =
JA/VK's=20
:-(
Thanks and 73,
Dale Martin, KG5U
kg5u@hal-pc.org
http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u
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From no6x@inreach.com Mon Dec 1 05:16:41 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 05:16:41 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] WOW!
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971201051641.00696200@inreach.com>
I just did the whole contest from the keyboard. It is amazing! I actually
learned something! How to use TRLOG more effective! It just gets better.
Next step: More com ports and a TNC to interface with it.
Guess I will just throw the paddle in the trash.
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From k1ky@bellsouth.net Mon Dec 1 05:25:10 1997
From: k1ky@bellsouth.net (Tom Delker)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:25:10 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] WOW!
References: <3.0.2.32.19971201051641.00696200@inreach.com>
Message-ID: <34824A36.1591@bellsouth.net>
Mike, I totally agree with you! Up until now, I have always had my
paddles to fall back on, but this time I did it totally mobile, didn't
have time to wire up the paddles to the interface. It was a lot easier
to just keep my hand ready at the keyboard, and only used F10 during the
last hour to send some slow - spaced - out - callsign repeats.
Don't think I'm quite ready to trash my WBL paddles, but they will be
far removed in future contests.
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From kg5u@hal-pc.org Mon Dec 1 12:15:41 1997
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L. Martin)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 06:15:41 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] VP8 Mult and Other Zones...part ii
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Well....I need a big sign: RTFM or, in this case, RTFF(iles).=20
I went through the CQ WW country file and found VP8CTR under CE9. I =
also=20
found under CE9 EM1HO, whom I had worked earlier. That explains why=20
VP8CTR did not deserve a country mult.=20
IS9/OL5Y did give me zone 33 in his exchange. I remember looking over=20
at the zone map when I got 33 and wondering what was what. After doing
a search in the log, I found another, earlier, QSO with IS9/OL5Y in =
which
he sent me 15 as his zone. =20
The XO7 does show up in the CQ Countries list as zone 5, but in both =
cases
in which I worked him, he gave me zone 3. Should I change it? Leave it?=20
My inclination (and they haven't been to close to the mark, lately) is =
to leave=20
it as it is.=20
Dale Martin, KG5U
kg5u@hal-pc.org
http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u
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Well....I need a big sign: RTFM or, =
in this=20
case, RTFF(iles).
I went through the CQ WW country file and found =
VP8CTR under=20
CE9. I also
found under CE9 EM1HO, whom I had worked =
earlier. That=20
explains why
VP8CTR did not deserve a country =
mult.
IS9/OL5Y did give me zone 33 in his exchange. =
I remember=20
looking over
at the zone map when I got 33 and wondering what was =
what. After doing
a search in the log, I found another, earlier, QSO =
with=20
IS9/OL5Y in which
he sent me 15 as his zone.
The XO7 does show up in the CQ Countries list as =
zone 5, but=20
in both cases
in which I worked him, he gave me zone 3. Should I =
change it?=20
Leave it?
My inclination (and they haven't been to close to =
the mark,=20
lately) is to leave
it as it is.
Dale Martin, KG5U
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From wday@cq.net Mon Dec 1 08:01:02 1997
From: wday@cq.net (Wayne Day)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 08:01:02 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] TS-850 <-> computer
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971201080102.006f8788@mailhost.cq.net>
I'm in the market for a new/used radio, one that can be interfaced with the
computer for contesting/automation, etc. I've been using Icoms since I
reluctantly sold my TS-520/D (Japanese domestic version picked up
at Akihabara in 1975) in the early 80's, so my Kenwood HF knowledge is limited.
What is required in order to get a TS-850S talking to a computer?
Is the interface described by N6TR in his software manual the sole thing needed
to get the two talking?
73 Wayne N5WD
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From ai7b@teleport.com Mon Dec 1 14:29:08 1997
From: ai7b@teleport.com (Bob Wruble)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 06:29:08 -0800
Subject: [TRLog] VP8 Multiplier and Other Zones
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I HAD IT AS VP8CTR ON 40M AND IT CAME UP AS A CE9 ANTARTICA?? ]
W7GG=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale L. Martin
To: TRLog Reflector
Date: Sunday, November 30, 1997 8:58 PM
Subject: [TRLog] VP8 Multiplier and Other Zones=20
=20
=20
During the CQ WW CW Contest, I worked VP8CRT, but TRLog did not =
record it as a=20
mult. Any reason why it is not a mult? How does it differentiate =
between Falklands
and South Shetlands and Antarctica? Is it in the suffix? =20
=20
I also received a couple of QSO's in which the sending station sent =
me a zone=20
different from what the log expected or what Post determined: =20
=20
A VE (XO7X?) sent zone 4, but Post says it should be zone 5.=20
=20
A IS9/ sent zone 33, but Post says it should be 15.=20
=20
What do I do in those cases? Except for the VP8 (if it is =
Falklands),=20
none were zone mults. =20
=20
I wish my rotor had worked as well as TRLog....the rotor stopped=20
working at 2000Z (not on the dot, but close enough) Sunday. =20
The upside was that it stopped while the beam was pointing =20
northeast--got Euros all afternoon :-), but no JA/VK's :-(=20
=20
Thanks and 73,
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
Dale Martin, KG5U
kg5u@hal-pc.org
http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u
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I HAD IT AS VP8CTR ON 40M AND IT =
CAME UP AS A=20
CE9 ANTARTICA?? ]
W7GG
-----Original =
Message-----
From:=20
Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
To: =
TRLog=20
Reflector <trlog@contesting.com>
D=
ate:=20
Sunday, November 30, 1997 8:58 PM
Subject: [TRLog] VP8 =
Multiplier and Other Zones
During the CQ WW CW Contest, I =
worked=20
VP8CRT, but TRLog did not record it as a
mult. Any reason=20
why it is not a mult? How does it differentiate between=20
Falklands
and South Shetlands and Antarctica? Is it =
in the=20
suffix?
I also received a couple of QSO's in which the =
sending=20
station sent me a zone
different from what the log expected or what =
Post=20
determined:
A VE (XO7X?) sent zone 4, but Post says it =
should be=20
zone 5.
A IS9/ sent zone 33, but Post says it should be =
15.=20
What do I do in those cases? Except for =
the VP8 (if=20
it is Falklands),
none were zone mults.
I wish my rotor had worked as =
well as=20
TRLog....the rotor stopped
working at =
2000Z (not on=20
the dot, but close enough) Sunday.
The upside was that it stopped while the beam =
was pointing=20
northeast--got Euros all afternoon :-), but no =
JA/VK's=20
:-(
Thanks and 73,
Dale Martin, KG5U
kg5u@hal-pc.org
http://www.hal-pc.org/~kg5u
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From wx0b@arraysolutions.com Mon Dec 1 14:52:30 1997
From: wx0b@arraysolutions.com (wx0b@arraysolutions.com)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 08:52:30 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] TS-850 <-> computer
References: <3.0.1.32.19971201080102.006f8788@mailhost.cq.net>
Message-ID: <3482CF2E.9F95A881@arraysolutions.com>
Wayne,
I had a rig failure during the test and one guy had brought his 850 as a backup
fortunately. I was getting a nap at the time but they got it interfaced without a
hitch. Changed the Logcfg.dat file and brought it all up in no time. So all I
know is that it worked with the 850 interface into a serial port, with the only
change being to take out the Icom config info and substituting in the Kenwood info.
Jay, WX0B
Wayne Day wrote:
> I'm in the market for a new/used radio, one that can be interfaced with the
> computer for contesting/automation, etc. I've been using Icoms since I
> reluctantly sold my TS-520/D (Japanese domestic version picked up
> at Akihabara in 1975) in the early 80's, so my Kenwood HF knowledge is limited.
>
> What is required in order to get a TS-850S talking to a computer?
>
> Is the interface described by N6TR in his software manual the sole thing needed
> to get the two talking?
>
> 73 Wayne N5WD
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
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From jfeustle@uoft02.utoledo.edu Mon Dec 1 15:04:11 1997
From: jfeustle@uoft02.utoledo.edu (jfeustle)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 10:04:11 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Kenwood 850S and TR-Log
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971201100411.006c4af0@131.183.1.4>
There is an external box that you must purchase in order to connect the
computer to the 850S. I forget the exact part number, but think that it
ends in a "C." The RS232 cable connects to this little box and it in turn
to the 850S. I've had mine for a couple of years and the interface between
the rig and the software has been seamless.
73,
Joe, N8JF
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From no6x@inreach.com Mon Dec 1 16:31:54 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 16:31:54 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] Kenwood 850S and TR-Log
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971201100411.006c4af0@131.183.1.4>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971201163154.006d9dd8@inreach.com>
At 10:04 AM 12/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>There is an external box that you must purchase in >order to connect the
computer to the 850S. I forget >the exact part number, but think that it
>ends in a "C."
I thinkn you are looking for IF232C....however I have found a way to make
those, at least it is supposed to work, I, not owning a 850 have not tried
it. Is pretty simple to duplicate though.
Mike...NO6X
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From k6ll@juno.com Mon Dec 1 17:46:54 1997
From: k6ll@juno.com (David O. Hachadorian)
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 12:46:54 EST
Subject: [TRLog] Kenwood 850S and TR-Log
References: <3.0.2.32.19971201163154.006d9dd8@inreach.com>
Message-ID: <19971201.174646.4599.0.k6ll@juno.com>
You don't need the IF-232C to interface the TS-850 to a computer.
The interface, and other TS-850 contest mods, can be found at:
http://www.qth.com/ka9fox/ts850_mods.txt
Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
K6LL@juno.com
Yuma, AZ
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From n6tr@teleport.com Mon Dec 1 21:53:29 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:53:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Keypad CW Memories
Message-ID: <199712012153.NAA25766@user2.teleport.com>
It appears that there is a problem with TR's ability to detect when
a number is pressed from the keypad versus the number keys on the
top row of the keyboard. Sometimes, it doesn't detect that the
key was pressed on the keypad. This can result in the program
not echoing the number key and if the corresponding function key
message is programmed, CW being sent at unexpected moments.
This is not an issue when the NUM LOCK function is off, and I don't
believe it is an issue unless you enable the KEYPAD CW MEMORIES
feature.
I will be working to see if I can come up with a better way of
detecting when the keypad is used for numbers and improve the
performance.
Tree
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From n4si@pobox.com Mon Dec 1 22:37:02 1997
From: n4si@pobox.com (n4si@pobox.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:37:02 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] LOG.TMP
In-Reply-To: <199712012153.NAA25766@user2.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <199712012233.QAA04438@mail.xnet.com>
I would guess this will wind up way down on the "wish list," but
could the LOG.TMP filename be made the XXXXXXXX.TMP file,
where XXXXXXXX is the filename specified in the
LOG FILE NAME = XXXXXXXX parameter?
I love this software.
73, Rod N4SI
The DXer formerly known as N9AKE
(c) 5 November, 1996
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From thehalls@ix.netcom.com Tue Dec 2 04:33:01 1997
From: thehalls@ix.netcom.com (thehalls@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:33:01 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Chgs to the Manual
Message-ID: <1997121223342217673@>
Hello!
Please change your Appendix A portion of the manual as follows:
Change # 1
MULT REPORT MINIMUM COUNTRIES
to
MULT REPORT MINIMUM BANDS
Change # 2
SCP MINIMUM CHARACTERS
to
SCP MINIMUM LETTERS
What am I stupid? I actually READ the manual!
73, Eric WD9GGY
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From thehalls@ix.netcom.com Tue Dec 2 04:56:51 1997
From: thehalls@ix.netcom.com (thehalls@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:56:51 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] CTRL-Y "REFRESH BAND MAP TIME"
Message-ID: <1997121225729225547@>
Does anyone have any success with the Ctrl-Y command?
It doesn't seem to do anything here?
I would think it would check the times the spots were received then remove the older ones? Anyway to adjust the time settings on the different colors?
Thanks for your feedback.
Happy Holidays!
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From jleahy@norwich.net Tue Dec 2 11:20:27 1997
From: jleahy@norwich.net (Jim Leahy)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 06:20:27 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] CQWW CW problem
Message-ID: <01bcff14$4a72d640$23821cce@jleahy.norwich.net>
I began the contest as I always do, booting my Win95 computer to DOS, and
firing up version 6.17 TRlog. I noticed I only had 63k of memory available.
It quickly went down to 38k, 19k etc. after very few QSOs. I then received a
runtime error 103. So I closed down, and booted up to the previous version
of DOS (F8 at boot) which was 5.0. I started up TRlog again, and still had
little memory available. After a few QSOs my computer locked up. I reset,
previous DOS again (5.0), started up TRlog and received runtime 002 (or
003), I forget. So, I decided to run TRlog in a DOS window in Win95. I now
had mega memory (163k), no lock-ups, and flawless operation, except for some
funky sounding cw as Win95 was tasking a couple times.
I have disabled my autoexec.bat file as Win95 handles things without it.
The only active statements in my config.sys are:
DEVICE=D:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=D:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
DOS=HIGH, UMB
Any ideas why the problems? I usually run TR restarting the computer in DOS
with no problems.
Jim Leahy K2JL
jleahy@norwich.net
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From ThomasJ@shbank.com Tue Dec 2 14:19:26 1997
From: ThomasJ@shbank.com (Thomas Johnson)
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 08:19:26 -0600
Subject: Fwd: [TRLog] CQWW CW problem
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Do you notice any difference when you REM 'all' of the lines in the config.sys?
I usually dont have a config.sys. I will boot into win95, then go to shut down, and restart computer in MS_DOS mode.
Tom
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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 05:20:27 -0600
From: "Jim Leahy"
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I began the contest as I always do, booting my Win95 computer to DOS, and
firing up version 6.17 TRlog. I noticed I only had 63k of memory available.
It quickly went down to 38k, 19k etc. after very few QSOs. I then received a
runtime error 103. So I closed down, and booted up to the previous version
of DOS (F8 at boot) which was 5.0. I started up TRlog again, and still had
little memory available. After a few QSOs my computer locked up. I reset,
previous DOS again (5.0), started up TRlog and received runtime 002 (or
003), I forget. So, I decided to run TRlog in a DOS window in Win95. I now
had mega memory (163k), no lock-ups, and flawless operation, except for some
funky sounding cw as Win95 was tasking a couple times.
I have disabled my autoexec.bat file as Win95 handles things without it.
The only active statements in my config.sys are:
DEVICE=D:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=D:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
DOS=HIGH, UMB
Any ideas why the problems? I usually run TR restarting the computer in DOS
with no problems.
Jim Leahy K2JL
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From ehayes@vnet.IBM.COM Tue Dec 2 18:28:31 1997
From: ehayes@vnet.IBM.COM (ehayes@vnet.IBM.COM)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 97 12:28:31 CST
Subject: [TRLog] TRLog and Computer RFI..HELP!
Message-ID: <199712021828.NAA25449@dayton.akorn.net>
I had a big problem during cqww cw with my computer and TRLog. I
believe it has to do with the keying from the computer but since
I'm far from an expert....I'm seeking assistance. I was using an
Icom 765 for the first (cw) time with the program. I had no problems
during SS phone. Prior to having the 765, my previous rig was
an Icom 737 with an external power supply which never caused any
problems with the computer and/or the program. The problem occurred
after about 60 to 70 contacts and after several re-boots (big red
button) continued to occur periodically. Very frustrating as I'm
sure you would agree. The problem usually happened when I would
try to log a contact. When it did occur, the computer would not
respond to the keyboard at all. I even completely lost the log.tmp
file on two different occassions.
The computer is an IBM 75 Mhz pentium with 16 meg ram. I was running
version 6.16 of TRLog although I doubt that the program had anything
to do with the problem.
So......I need some ideas on what to try to fix this. If you suggest
beads, please identify the mix and where to put them.
Thanks in advance,
Wayne AJ5M ewhayes@vnet.ibm.com
Sign me stumped in Texas......
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From kirk@music-city.tdec.state.tn.us Tue Dec 2 20:03:46 1997
From: kirk@music-city.tdec.state.tn.us (kirk@music-city.tdec.state.tn.us)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:03:46 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Paddle Port Problem
Message-ID: <199712022003.OAA02754@isd7.tdec.state.tn.us>
I had problems with the paddle port again this contest.
I now believe the problem is RF-related, as it seemed to
only occur on 10 meters at anything over 300 watts output.
I used shielded cable for the line, but apparently RF is
still getting in there. Sometimes have to re-boot to re-
gain control of the PC. Looks like more ferrite is in order.
Where is the best souce of info for ferrite techniques and
products? Amidon, or someone else? Thanks.
-Kirk K4RO
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From dabs@worldnet.att.net Tue Dec 2 21:28:51 1997
From: dabs@worldnet.att.net (Hendrick House)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:28:51 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Mults only
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If I want only mults to show up in the band map do I need to set =
anything else besides the PACKET SPOTS=3DMULT in ctrl-J.
Thanks, Bill N0AC
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From msadams@acsu.buffalo.edu Tue Dec 2 21:41:35 1997
From: msadams@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mark S. Adams)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:41:35 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] ARCI Support??
Message-ID: <01bcff6b$1009ea00$3a4ecd80@madams2.facilities.buffalo.edu>
Hi Gang,
I just bought the latest TR-Log and it seems to be all that I hoped, except
that there is not FULL support for ARCI contests. The report needs to be
RST, SPC, MEMBER# OR POWER. I can only get the program to accept RST and
SPC.
The manual does not list RST, SPC, POWER as a predefined valid field either.
Can anyone help?
TNX es 72,
Mark Adams
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From n5nj@worldnet.att.net Tue Dec 2 22:57:37 1997
From: n5nj@worldnet.att.net (Robert Naumann)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:57:37 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] CQWW CW problem
Message-ID: <01bcff75$af81b0e0$LocalHost@n5yy>
This does not ensure that WIN95 has not done stuff to your machine. Take a
look at the YCCC home page for tips on how to use Win95 as DOS version 7.
The easy way is to create a file called win.bat in the root directory of
your C: drive.
73,
Bob N5NJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Johnson
To: trlog@contesting.com
Date: Tuesday, December 02, 1997 08:22
Subject: Fwd: [TRLog] CQWW CW problem
>Do you notice any difference when you REM 'all' of the lines in the
config.sys?
>
>I usually dont have a config.sys. I will boot into win95, then go to shut
down, and restart computer in MS_DOS mode.
>
>
>Tom
>K9KJ
>
>
>-----------------------------------
>Thomas A. Johnson
>IS Dept. - South Holland Bank
>ThomasJ@SHBank.com
>
>
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From k6ll@juno.com Tue Dec 2 22:16:29 1997
From: k6ll@juno.com (David O. Hachadorian)
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 17:16:29 EST
Subject: [TRLog] TRLog and Computer RFI..HELP!
References: <199712021828.NAA25449@dayton.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <19971202.221647.4607.4.k6ll@juno.com>
On Tue, 2 Dec 97 12:28:31 CST ehayes@vnet.IBM.COM writes:
>I had a big problem during cqww cw with my computer and TRLog. I
>believe it has to do with the keying from the computer but since
>I'm far from an expert....I'm seeking assistance. I was using an
>Icom 765 for the first (cw) time with the program. I had no problems
>during SS phone.
Let me guess that you were using a parallel port to key the rig.
For stubborn cases of rfi to keying lines, I find the easiest
solution is to use a serial port instead. You can use one
serial port for both rig control and keying. For some reason
the serial ports are more immune to rf.
Please don't tell me you WERE using a serial port!
Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
K6LL@juno.com
Yuma, AZ
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From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Dec 2 23:07:39 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:07:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] TRLog and Computer RFI..HELP!
Message-ID: <199712022307.PAA07383@user2.teleport.com>
> Let me guess that you were using a parallel port to key the rig.
> For stubborn cases of rfi to keying lines, I find the easiest
> solution is to use a serial port instead. You can use one
> serial port for both rig control and keying. For some reason
> the serial ports are more immune to rf.
This is a true statement. Since the serial port puts a
negative voltage across the base emitter junction, the noise
immunity is much higher than the parallel port.
Tree
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From gbaron@sparc.isl.net Tue Dec 2 23:59:23 1997
From: gbaron@sparc.isl.net (Gilbert Baron)
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 23:59:23 GMT
Subject: [TRLog] TRLog and Computer RFI..HELP!
In-Reply-To: <199712022307.PAA07383@user2.teleport.com>
References: <199712022307.PAA07383@user2.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <3486a062.3982729@199.3.25.3>
>On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:07:39 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>> Let me guess that you were using a parallel port to key the rig.
>> For stubborn cases of rfi to keying lines, I find the easiest
>> solution is to use a serial port instead. You can use one
>> serial port for both rig control and keying. For some reason
>> the serial ports are more immune to rf.
>
>This is a true statement. Since the serial port puts a
>negative voltage across the base emitter junction, the noise
>immunity is much higher than the parallel port.
>
>Tree
However, you may have other problems such as I do. I can't use the
serial port for keying or my rig control falls apart. I must have the
full CTS RTS protocol or I have problems. Just be sure you realize
that this is a possibility. I am lucky to not have an RF problem but I
am running barefoot. I can get trouble if the cable is in certain
spots in the shack.
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From geoiii@bga.com Wed Dec 3 00:37:08 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 18:37:08 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] ARCI Support??
In-Reply-To: <01bcff6b$1009ea00$3a4ecd80@madams2.facilities.buffalo.edu> from "Mark S. Adams" at Dec 2, 97 04:41:35 pm
Message-ID: <199712030037.SAA06871@zoom.bga.com>
Mark S. Adams writes:
>
>I just bought the latest TR-Log and it seems to be all that I hoped, except
>that there is not FULL support for ARCI contests. The report needs to be
>RST, SPC, MEMBER# OR POWER. I can only get the program to accept RST and
>SPC.
>
It does accept RST, member# or power and state/province. I have
used it in the ARCI and I just tried it to make sure.
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From jfunk@adams.net Wed Dec 3 14:48:39 1997
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 08:48:39 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] keying
Message-ID: <199712031448.IAA12212@golden.adams.net>
Hi All,
Please pardon this question if it's been beaten to death and I
missed it....
My rig (TS930) keys fine from DOS. When I try to get into version
6.15 from Windows 3.1, the rig doesn't key. What am I missing?
Thanks and 73, Jim N9JF
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From paul1@wizard.ucs.sfu.ca Wed Dec 3 18:34:56 1997
From: paul1@wizard.ucs.sfu.ca (Paul Erickson)
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 97 10:34:56 PST
Subject: [TRLog] keying
In-Reply-To: <199712031448.IAA12212@golden.adams.net>; from "jim funk" at Dec 3, 97 8:48 am
Message-ID: <9712031834.AA07637@wizard.ucs.sfu.ca>
Hi Jim,
We are missing the same thing. I can not get it to key serial port #1
under windows 95 .
cheers, Paul
ve7cqk
email: paul1@wizard.ucs.sfu.ca
>
> Hi All,
> Please pardon this question if it's been beaten to death and I
> missed it....
> My rig (TS930) keys fine from DOS. When I try to get into version
> 6.15 from Windows 3.1, the rig doesn't key. What am I missing?
> Thanks and 73, Jim N9JF
>
>
>
>
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From juhan@chem.ut.ee Thu Dec 4 09:51:53 1997
From: juhan@chem.ut.ee (Juhan Poldvere)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:51:53 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [TRLog] keying
In-Reply-To: <9712031834.AA07637@wizard.ucs.sfu.ca> from "Paul Erickson" at Dec 3, 97 10:34:56 am
Message-ID:
> I can not get it to key serial port #1
> under windows 95 .
A possible place to look at might be the CMOS setup of the computer.
Accessed by a certain key or key combination at computer startup.
The computer usually says something like "Press to access Setup".
The setting of concern is somewhere under "Advanced" - if the COM ports
are set to AUTO, it may be better to force set them where they really belong.
Has helped me.
WARNING: messing with CMOS settings may make your computer/data unusable if
you don't know what you are doing!
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From public@brailcom.cz Thu Dec 4 11:49:55 1997
From: public@brailcom.cz (Emil Sirucek)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:49:55 +0100
Subject: [TRLog] LPT interface causes system crash
Message-ID: <01BD00B4.37E96D80@d4.brailcom.cz>
Hi,
please pardon this question but my system crashes when connecting my keying interface to the parallel port. It worked fine on several machines but my new one P6 200 MHz does this. It seems to be related to the operating mode of the LPT port (SPP, EPP, ECP and so on).
Does anybody know what is the matter?
73 Martin, OK1RR
Martin.K@pemail.net
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From gbaron@sparc.isl.net Thu Dec 4 14:58:13 1997
From: gbaron@sparc.isl.net (Gilbert Baron)
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 08:58:13 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] LPT interface causes system crash
References: <01BD00B4.37E96D80@d4.brailcom.cz>
Message-ID: <3486C505.2F1C@sparc.isl.net>
Emil Sirucek wrote:
>
> Hi,
> please pardon this question but my system crashes when connecting my > keying interface to the parallel port. It worked fine on several
> machines but my new one P6 200 MHz does this. It seems to be related > to the operating mode of the LPT port (SPP, EPP, ECP and so on).
> Does anybody know what is the matter?
>
Very likely to be an RF feedback problme I would say.
By the way, PLEASE use word wrap so that you lines are not so long. It
is very inconvenient to require people to do horizontal scrolling to
read your post and some don't have that ability.
Lines of over 200 characters are not nice.
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From flydnq7x@primenet.com Thu Dec 4 15:45:29 1997
From: flydnq7x@primenet.com (Floyd Smithberg)
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 08:45:29 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Incorrect DOS
Message-ID: <199712041612.JAA09773@smtp04.primenet.com>
Just installed v.6.17 and used it for CQ WW...worked GREAT 'til I tried to print
from dos. Then get 'incorrect dos". Using W95 and had just put MIE v.4.0 in but
didn't like the clutter so removed it...also did defrag,diskscan and reinstalled
W95...now I get the "incorrect dos' when trying to print my log from post
via dos. I did manage to print my log by bringing it into the dos editor and
printing
from there...What to do???? Suggestions????
73 Floyd NQ7X Phoenix ScQRPion DM33uq QRP-L 343
ARRL ARCI G-QRP NORCAL DX WRKD HF=324 SAT=101 QRP=103
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From pmoore@ugf.edu Thu Dec 4 17:42:45 1997
From: pmoore@ugf.edu (Pat Moore)
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:42:45 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Interface and keying problems
Message-ID: <199712041741.KAA19603@lewis.mt.net>
Two messages in yesterday's digest reflect the widespread confusion
regarding how to interface TrLog to radios, keyers, etc. I know I've had a
really tough time getting my interface up and working, and I suspect I'm not
alone. I think the manual needs additional detail on the interface/keying
issue, and with Tree's permission, will volunteer to work up an expanded
Appendix B. I have the editing skills, but not the expertise. How about
it, serial and parallel port gurus? If you have the information that would
help with these problems, stick it on the reflector, and send a copy to me.
I'll assemble and then submit the result to Tree for incorporation into the
manual.
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From n7us@mci2000.com Fri Dec 5 05:14:44 1997
From: n7us@mci2000.com (Jim McDonald N7US)
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 22:14:44 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Kantronics TNC parameters with TR Log
Message-ID: <34878DC4.68276FAE@mci2000.com>
There have been notes on the reflector about problems connecting
Kantronics TNCs for use with TR Log. I didn't see a parameter for my
KAM Plus (7.0) equivalent to AEA's AWLEN that can select 7-bit or 8-bit
data. I couldn't get sustained good results with the EIGHT BIT PACKET
PORT = TRUE command, which I suspect is because TR is set to 2 stop bits
instead of 1 with that command.
Anyway, I received the following note from Kantronics which I thought
may be of interest. I've tried it and stayed connected to my
PacketCluster node (actually also at my house - with an RF connection)
for a couple days with no problem.
BTW, for general use with the KAM Plus I use KAWin
(http://www.sni.net/kawin/), which is a Windows program that I like very
much. Though that program prefers to leave the KAM in host mode, it
takes just a bit of extra time for KAWin to load when I set the program
to leave the KAM in terminal mode, which makes TR Log (and DX4WIN)
happy. I also set KAWin to use 7-bit with no stop bits, consistent with
the PARITY EVEN setting explained below.
Jim N7US
Albuquerque, NM
Ken Baker wrote:
>
> At 04:03 PM 11/29/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >I have a KAM Plus 7.0. Is there any parameter to change the number of
> >bits on the RS-232 port to 7 instead of 8? My PK-88 has an AWLEN
> >parameter that provides this flexibility. I am having problems using
> >the KAM in terminal mode with the contesting logging program, TR Log,
> >which handles 8/N/2 and 7/E/1, but the KAM only can use 8 bits as far as
> >I can tell. Thanks.
> >--
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> >Albuquerque, New Mexico
> >n7us@mci2000.com
>
> The KAM can only use 1 stop bit in either case.
>
> You can set the KAM to 7 bit data, and even parity, by setting the PARITY
> parameter to EVEN, as described in the KAM Plus manual on page 26.
>
> Ken Baker
> Service Manager
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From N7DR@sff.net Fri Dec 5 14:18:07 1997
From: N7DR@sff.net (D. R. Evans)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:18:07 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] [Fwd: [Fwd: shiftkey questionmark]]
In-Reply-To: <199711181633.IAA06615@user1.teleport.com>
Message-ID:
> I could always add a new parameter QUESTION MARK CHARACTER, which
> would allow you to map the ? key to some other key (saving your
> something under $60).
>
> Oh wait - I can't add that after all... That parameter already
> exists.
>
Not according to the documentation, it don't. :-)
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From geoiii@bga.com Sat Dec 6 17:33:24 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 11:33:24 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Re: ARCI logcfg.dat
In-Reply-To: <3.0.16.19971205142255.3d1f4124@popd.ix.netcom.com> from "Pete Hoover" at Dec 5, 97 04:23:21 pm
Message-ID: <199712061733.LAA29010@zoom.bga.com>
> I thought that I had everything finally figured out for the
>up-coming ARCI HB sprint this Sunday - but I've run aground trying to get
>the program (Ver. 6.02) in two areas:
>
> 1)to accept a DX call as DX.
>
> Example: put in ZL1HV with 559 , ZL (or DX) as the QTH,
>plus a number the program won't accept that as an entry. However, if I put
>in "CA" for the QTH (figuring I'll go back after the 'test and correct
>that), I will accept the entry and give "ZL" as a mult! How now; and,
>
Mmmmmmm....I guess we need to look at this - I will try it later.
But I am glad you figured a way around the trouble.
> 2) how do I get the program to accept an entry that is not solely
>numerical for the membership number? If you try to put in a power level
>(the alternative for a ARCI member number) as, say, 5w, it won't be
>accepted. If you put in just "5" that could be confused with a membership
>number. Have I missed something here? Failing any other solution, I will
>put in a number in the 9000 area - membership numbers aren't that high
>(yet) - that seems to work - 5 watts would be entered as 9005 - and would
>be easy to find and correct later on.
I don't think there are any membership numbers that are less
than 4 digits (are there?) I think it is very clear what
is a member number and what is a power. I was going to
ask Tree about allowing for a 1w or 5w entry as it
would look better in the log.
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From ku7y@sage.dri.edu Sat Dec 6 17:38:48 1997
From: ku7y@sage.dri.edu (Monte Stark)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 09:38:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Re: ARCI logcfg.dat
In-Reply-To: <199712061733.LAA29010@zoom.bga.com>
Message-ID:
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, george fremin iii wrote:
> ask Tree about allowing for a 1w or 5w entry as it
> would look better in the log.
That would also let the same set-up be used in things like the
fox hunts where the qrp-l numbers run from single digits to four
digits!
If the power HAD to include the "w" it should be easy to test
for number/power.
cul,
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From msadams@acsu.buffalo.edu Sat Dec 6 17:46:45 1997
From: msadams@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mark S. Adams)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:46:45 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Re: ARCI logcfg.dat
Message-ID: <01bd026e$ebd4eca0$3a4ecd80@madams2.facilities.buffalo.edu>
My ARCI # is 9373. So DO NOT use 9005 for 5 watts. You will then be
seriously confused!
Mark Adams
-----Original Message-----
From: george fremin iii
To: Pete Hoover
Cc: reflector TRLog
Date: Saturday, December 06, 1997 12:35 PM
Subject: [TRLog] Re: ARCI logcfg.dat
>> 2) how do I get the program to accept an entry that is not solely
>>numerical for the membership number? If you try to put in a power level
>>(the alternative for a ARCI member number) as, say, 5w, it won't be
>>accepted. If you put in just "5" that could be confused with a membership
>>number. Have I missed something here? Failing any other solution, I will
>>put in a number in the 9000 area - membership numbers aren't that high
>>(yet) - that seems to work - 5 watts would be entered as 9005 - and would
>>be easy to find and correct later on.
>
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From wealth@net.net Sat Dec 6 16:56:23 1997
From: wealth@net.net (wealth@net.net)
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 97 11:56:23 EST
Subject: [TRLog] Guaranteed Search Engine Top 20 Ranking!
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From n6tr@teleport.com Sat Dec 6 19:46:32 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 11:46:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Version 6.18
Message-ID: <199712061946.LAA26016@user2.teleport.com>
Version 6.18 is on its way or on the BBS. Here are the changes:
Release notes for TR Logging Program - Version 6.18
6 December 1997
Version 6.18 released on 6 December 1997
- Enhancements to ARCI contest. Added RST POSSIBLE DOMESTIC QTH AND
POWER exchange. The power gets used for ARCI numbers as well, but
put a W after power levels sent by non members. The W will be logged.
Added ARCI QSO POINT METHOD for ARCI. If a no W found in the "power",
the full 5 points will be scored. If a W is found, you get 2 points
for the same continent, or 4 points for DX.
- Switched mode and frequency for MP back the way it was (freq then mode).
- Prevented possible crash if packet frequency > 2,147 MHz.
Version 6.17 released 23 November 1997.
- Reversed the order of sending the mode and frequency to the FT1000,
FT920 and FT1000MP. This means your mode will be set before setting
the frequency. Under some radio configurations, this could result
in an error equal to the CW offset.
- Fixed Dualing CQ process on SSB when using the DVP. Also, some minor
clean up of DVP sequencing when using two radio mode. Pressing F1
to resend your callsign while a dummy CQ is in progress works quicker.
- In the S&P mode, if you use F2 to resend your exchange just after
logging a QSO, it will send the SEARCH AND POUNCE exchange even if
you have a REPEAT SEARCH AND POUNCE exchange programmed. Furthurmore,
it would set the "ExchangeHasBeenSent" flag so that when you make
your next S&P QSO, it will send the REPEAT S&P EXCHANGE. This has
now been changed so that if you press F2 with no call window or
exchange window entry, the REPEAT S&P exchange is sent and the
ExchangeHasBeenSent flag is not set. If you don't have a REPEAT S&P
exchange programmed, you won't notice this as the S&P exchange gets
sent all of the time.
- The CONTEST NAME is now part of the RESTART.BIN header. This means
if you change the contest you are operating in your LOGCFG.DAT file,
the program won't try to use the RESTART.BIN file that might already
be in the directory. This eliminates any possible problems with
incorrect configurations which could cause strange behavior (i.e.,
missing remaining multiplier info).
- Some people have seen a negative number appear in some log entries
when displaying frequency. Two changes have been made here. First,
a band-aid has been added so that if for any reason a negative
result appears for the frequency, it will be set to zero. This
happens with we don't get frequency data from the radio and then
subtract out the megahertz. Secondly, an improvement has been made
in how I filter the frequency data in an attempt to use the previous
non-zero frequency when I come up with zero.
This list stops at the version covered by the latest release of
the manual. You can view previous release notes on the web at
www.contesting.com/_trlog/.
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From w9cf@ptolemy.la.asu.edu Sat Dec 6 22:39:54 1997
From: w9cf@ptolemy.la.asu.edu (Kevin Schmidt)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 22:39:54 GMT
Subject: [TRLog] Bug report for 6.18
Message-ID: <199712062239.WAA29782@ptolemy.la.asu.edu>
The DVP interface bug still occurs in TR version 6.18. I verified this by
booting up in DOS 6.22 with no AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS files. I used
a boot floppy, but hitting F8 (or whatever key lets you tell the machine
to not run CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT) will work. If immediately after
a reboot, I start DVPTSR and then TR in a directory that contains only
the logcfg.dat file
my call = w9cf
contest = cq ww
display mode = color
mode = ssb
dvp enable = true
TR reports the wrong shared memory area 8000:XXXX where I haven't
bothered to write down the offset, but the obviously wrong segment of
8000 is reported. The same thing happens with version 0.97 and
probably earlier versions of my SBDVP TSR, indicating the problem is in
TR not in SBDVP or DVPTSR. If I exit and restart TR, it will report the
correct shared memory address. Running with my normal AUTOEXEC.BAT and
CONFIG.SYS, I sometimes get the error and sometimes don't depending on
how things are loaded in memory and what I have run before. It is
repeatable on boot up from the configuration above on 3 different
computers here. Using TR after it reports the wrong address (rather
than immediately exiting) generally causes my computer to lock up soon
afterwards as would be predicted. I suspect this may be the cause of
some of the crashes reported earlier when using DVPTSR or SBDVP.
73 Kevin w9cf
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From gbaron@sparc.isl.net Sun Dec 7 11:49:04 1997
From: gbaron@sparc.isl.net (Gilbert Baron)
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 11:49:04 GMT
Subject: [TRLog] Bug report for 6.18
In-Reply-To: <199712062239.WAA29782@ptolemy.la.asu.edu>
References: <199712062239.WAA29782@ptolemy.la.asu.edu>
Message-ID: <348c8ce8.1399080@199.3.25.3>
>On Sat, 6 Dec 1997 22:39:54 GMT, you wrote:
>
>The DVP interface bug still occurs in TR version 6.18. I verified this by
>booting up in DOS 6.22 with no AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS files. I used
>a boot floppy, but hitting F8 (or whatever key lets you tell the machine
>to not run CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT) will work. If immediately after
>a reboot, I start DVPTSR and then TR in a directory that contains only
>the logcfg.dat file
>
Well at least you get to test it. As usual I still have not received
the new version. I am always last for some reason?
It is very strange that when George sent it to me I got it in minutes
but now it is many hours and no sighn of it?
>my call = w9cf
>contest = cq ww
>display mode = color
>mode = ssb
>dvp enable = true
>
>TR reports the wrong shared memory area 8000:XXXX where I haven't
>bothered to write down the offset, but the obviously wrong segment of
>8000 is reported. The same thing happens with version 0.97 and
>probably earlier versions of my SBDVP TSR, indicating the problem is in
>TR not in SBDVP or DVPTSR. If I exit and restart TR, it will report the
>correct shared memory address. Running with my normal AUTOEXEC.BAT and
>CONFIG.SYS, I sometimes get the error and sometimes don't depending on
>how things are loaded in memory and what I have run before. It is
>repeatable on boot up from the configuration above on 3 different
>computers here. Using TR after it reports the wrong address (rather
>than immediately exiting) generally causes my computer to lock up soon
>afterwards as would be predicted. I suspect this may be the cause of
>some of the crashes reported earlier when using DVPTSR or SBDVP.
>
>73 Kevin w9cf
>=-------------------------------------------------------------
>Kevin Schmidt w9cf@ptolemy.la.asu.edu
>Department of Physics and Astronomy
>Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ 85287-1504
>(602) 965-8240
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From n6tr@teleport.com Sun Dec 7 12:52:43 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 04:52:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Re: ARCI logcfg.dat
Message-ID: <199712071252.EAA07231@user1.teleport.com>
> >I don't think there are any membership numbers that are less
> >than 4 digits (are there?) I think it is very clear what
> >is a member number and what is a power. I was going to
> >ask Tree about allowing for a 1w or 5w entry as it
> >would look better in the log.
> >
>
> Obviously Tree has fixed the problem now by accepting W after a nr for
> power, but yes there are a number of active ARCI members with numbers in the
> 2 and 3 digit areas.. But they are well known and it's never been a problem
> in the past (for me at least).. A number of 51 is definately not a power nr..
>
> Thanks for listening to our needs!
These will need to be entered as 0051 so the program knows it is
a member number.
Tree
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From n6tr@teleport.com Sun Dec 7 16:52:29 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:52:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Re: ARCI logcfg.dat
Message-ID: <199712071652.IAA29377@user1.teleport.com>
> >These will need to be entered as 0051 so the program knows it is
> >a member number.
>
> Oh ohh.. It logged any number before, no matter how many places (at least
> 1 to 4 worked). Can you make it accept any number, but key on the W to
> determine if a power nr? Having to go back and add leading zeroes after
> you've found out it's only a 3 digit nr is worse than before where I had to
> manually change the points myself, but I could log any number..
>
> Well, maybe not.. For some stats, I worked 445 QSO's in the ARCI FALL QSO
> Party, and made 7 with 3-digit member-nr stations, and 3 with two-digit
> member-nr stations. Not very many..
>
> Is this correct? The new setup will use any 1,2,or 3 digit nr as power,
> and a 4-digit nr is member? Is the 'W' after a power needed then, as well?
Not exactly. It will use any numeric entry with a W on the end of it
as a power. It will use a 4 digit numeric entry as an ARCI member
number. It will try to use a 3 digit (or one digit) numeric entry
as the RST.
The problem in the implementation stems from the difficulty of
distinguishing between a RST entry and a member number. The easiest
way to do this was to require the member number to be four digits.
There are more difficult ways to do it, but it would then make the
current free format for the entry unavailable. For example, I
believe you can log the RST, ARCI/Power and QTH in any order and
the program will sort it out. If we require the RST to be in
the front, then I can change the code to allow the ARCI number to
be any number of digits... However, this might actually make it
more difficult to log if you are using the exchange memory for
power and QTH... I am not sure if this contest uses 599 all of
the time, or actual RST (being a QRP contest it would seem actual
RST would be best).
Also, the exchange memory will remember the number from band to
band, so maybe you would have been even fewer than 10 times you
would have had to backspace and add some zeros.
So, let me know how it works in actual use today, and we can improve
it. At least you will have the QSO Points right now, which will probably
be a bigger plus than the problem with entering 4 digits.
I am hoping to have a little time myself to play in the contest so
I have a better feel for it. Any way to become an ARCI member before
2000Z?
73 Tree
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From n6tr@teleport.com Sun Dec 7 17:05:11 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 09:05:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] More ARCI
Message-ID: <199712071705.JAA00700@user1.teleport.com>
Another unexpected problem with power. The program will not allow
1r5w for an entry. There are two things you can do... use
105w and edit it after the contest, or perhaps a better one I just
thought of would be 1w5w. I will change this to allow the r for
next time.
Tree
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From w4au@contesting.com Tue Dec 9 16:43:19 1997
From: w4au@contesting.com (John Unger)
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 11:43:19 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Summary - digital sound with TRLog
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971209114319.00d72568@mailrvag2.er.usgs.gov>
I did not get a whole log of response to my original query, and there seems
to be no clear consensus among the replies. Make your own conclusions....
My thanks to everyone who passed along information.
tnx es 73 - John, W4AU
My original post:
/*******************************************/
Since I enjoy CW so much, I have never tried SSB versions of contests in a
serious way. It's finally dawned on me that this means that I'm missing out
on approximately 50% of the contest action...
Although I had lots of chores to do last weekend, I decided to play around
in the SSB SS last weekend, but after a few hundred Q's my throat was
feeling the stess of so much talking. So here's the question:
I know of three ways to integrate digital speech in TRLOG:
1) W9XT contst card
2) K1EA DVP
3) W9CF's SBDVP Sound Blaster Software
Which of the three options is the best one, assuming no Sound Blaster card
in the computer already? I guess the criteria should include things like
ease of installation and integration with TRLog's features.
/*********************************************/
And now the (unattributed) responses:
----------------------
DVP.
Well - at least this was the case when they were made in the USA.
I don't have any personal experience with the European manufactured
version - although I believe it is all the same and I have never
heard of a problem with them.
------------------------
Please do summarize at the appropriate time, because I'm in the same boat
although from what I have gathered over the past few months I'm leaning
toward the W9XT.
------------------------
I tried the option 3. It can work well BUT recording does not work in
win 95 and if you try to unload to store the resulting files they are
trash. You must make your recordings with wav studio or the like and
then load them. The quality is not that great. I think it is a great
(read cheap) option if you have the sound card but even then not the
best.
I would recommend option 2 from what I have read. The number 1 has some
interfacing problems is what I read. That is not first hand so
investigate but if you can spend the money I would pick 1 or 2 and for
you it would not be more expensive since you don't hvae the sound card.
-------------------------
John, if you have any interest in also operating RTTY using K6STI's
terrific RITTY program and WF1B's RTTY contest logging software, I'd go for
the SBDVP approach. That way you can use the SoundBlaster for two or more
applications. (K6STI also sells a very fine dsp program that uses the
SoundBlaster card.) If you have no interest in adding sound to the
computer, then probably either W9XT or K1EA will be fine. I have two DVP's
and two SoundBlasters. I prefer the DVP's, but the SBDVP s/w does seem to
work quite well, also. It just requires a little more work to install, and
you have to build up your own cabling vs. buying it from the DVP folks.
Good luck.
--------------------------
I went the K1EA DVP route ... Why ?
It works (and works well) with all functions with
any of the contest software (TR/NA/CT). The
others at the time seemed limited in options. They
do a FB job, but I wanted to do it right the first time
and for me the K1EA units have worked well in
each of the PCs here. I invested in the K1EA cables
as they are well shielded and of good quality, to date
I have had no problems with hum or grounds loops.
Be glad to answer any more questions. There is a
web site for the K1EA DVP unit I believe ...
---------------------------
I use the W9XT card, and like it a lot. The card is inexpensive by
comparison to the DVP, and it's much faster to set up. Since you'd have to
buy a Sound Blaster card to use option 3, the XT card is also less expensive
than that option. Also, the XT card contains a CW interface; this frees up
whatever port you're using for CW right now. TRLog has provisions for an
external DVK (the same hardware standard as used by NA and CT); the XT card
appears to the computer to be an external DVK, so it's easily set up that way.
On the other hand, the XT card has four fixed memories totalling 16 seconds.
It is *not* capable of transmitting variable text (the other guy's callsign,
or a serial number), you'll have to speak that yourself.
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From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Dec 9 19:19:51 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:19:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Multi-multi
Message-ID: <199712091919.LAA02781@user2.teleport.com>
Just wanted to share the results that the W7RM crew had during the
recent CQ WW CW contest. According to Mike, K7NT, they didn't have
the network totally connected at the start of the contest, but once
they did, they didn't lose a QSO during the weekend. N6RO and the
VE6s didn't use the network on CW.
This is the kind of result I had been expecting after cleaning
up some of the network bugs earlier this year.
I still intend on improving the network from here. There need
to be safeguards against a computer hanging up the data flow
while off looking at the log or the TNC. Perhaps a timeout
after using one of these functions after a minute or two to
let the network catch up.
A multi line display for the talk messages is also needed, so in
case two (or more) messages come in next to each other, you can
see them (perhaps a 5 line window you can pop up in the LOG.TMP
area).
Some DVK improvements were implemented over the weekend and
perhaps I should release them before the ten meter contest?
They include making the DVK0 command work (to stop a message
when put in a function key message), however I also improved
the ESCAPE key operation to work to stop any DVK message, not
just those started with F1.
Tree N6TR
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From N6ZZ@aol.com Wed Dec 10 03:13:14 1997
From: N6ZZ@aol.com (N6ZZ)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:13:14 EST
Subject: [TRLog] Multi-multi
Message-ID: <34abc6e9.348e08d1@aol.com>
Don't know how many other guys are using TRLog in the multi-multi environment,
but we used it at P29AS for the CQ WW SSB contest. No problems to report with
it at all, seems to pass QSOs much more quickly than I recall from previous
years. We were using it on 3 different notebook computers, I think all were
486s. The only grief to report was that our crude networking wires would
ocassionally short out or become intermittant....one of these years, we'll
rebuild 'em. But it held together pretty well for 8000+ QSOs....
73 - Phil, N6ZZ
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From w9cf@ptolemy.la.asu.edu Wed Dec 10 02:25:02 1997
From: w9cf@ptolemy.la.asu.edu (Kevin Schmidt)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 02:25:02 GMT
Subject: [TRLog] Summary - digital sound with TRLog
Message-ID: <199712100225.CAA09516@ptolemy.la.asu.edu>
John, W4AU, quoted the following from his private e-mail
>
>I tried the option 3. It can work well BUT recording does not work in
>win 95 and if you try to unload to store the resulting files they are
>trash. You must make your recordings with wav studio or the like and
>then load them. The quality is not that great. I think it is a great
>(read cheap) option if you have the sound card but even then not the
>best.
>
Poor sound quality with the SBDVP software may be because you find 8
bit audio inherently low quality. If however, you can't record using
SBDVP for some reason and find the 8 bit audio played by SBDVP on files
recorded using other software to be a lot worse than the same file
played with that other software, one possibility is that you have
recorded the file using A-law, mu-law or similar compression. SBDVP
uses a straight linear unsigned 8 bit format. If you play an 8 bit
mu-law file using SBDVP it will be understandable but the quality will
be unacceptable.
In the latest version of SBDVP, ftp://fermi.la.asu.edu/sbdvp097.zip, I
have added experimental support for Windows Sound System (WSS)
compatible cards. Most (but not all) of the really cheap (i.e. $20)
sound cards are Windows Sound System compatible. With SBDVP in WSS
mode, you can choose between 8 bit unsigned audio files, at an 11KHz
sampling rate, and 16 bit signed audio files at a 16KHz rate. The
quality of the 16 bit audio files should be better than the audio
system of your transmitter. Trying the WSS mode, if your card supports
it, also gives your card another chance to record from the microphone
if it fails in Sound Blaster mode. (The audio mixer is a lot easier to
program in WSS mode.)
Nearly all my computing and code development is done on unix based
computers; I don't know anything about Windows 95. My hope is that Tree
will eventually port TR to unix/linux and since the networking and audio
stuff is so easy to program in unix, Tree will include it in TR and I
can abandon SBDVP. My shack computer (an old 386) boots to either DOS
or linux, so I'm ready :-).
73 Kevin w9cf
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From ingemar.fogelberg@swipnet.se Wed Dec 10 08:31:09 1997
From: ingemar.fogelberg@swipnet.se (Ingemar Fogelberg)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:31:09 +0100
Subject: [TRLog] Remote controlled RX with TRLOG
Message-ID: <348E534D.5C3B@swipnet.se>
I am looking some information about
remote controlling a receiver with TRLOG.
My idea is to control the remote receiver with
TRLOG in a configuration like this:
LOCAL SITE
PC/TRLOG <---> TNC <---> VHF-transceiver <---> Antenna
audio <--- UHF-transceiver <--- Antenna
REMOTE SITE
HF-receiver <---> TNC <---> VHF-transceiver <---> Antenna
|
|----> UHF-transceiver ---> Antenna
Some notes
* The TNC's are connected and put in a transparent mode
before they are connected to TRLOG.
* The connect status signal is used to key PTT on the
UHF-transceiver on the remote site.
Questions:
* Has anyone done something like this?
* Is a 1200 bps TNC enough for tuning or should I
go for higher data rates?
* Is the quality of the audio good enough for
receiving weak signals?
Any hints or comments are welcome!
73 de Ingo / SM0AJV
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From toms@inconnect.com Wed Dec 10 17:21:46 1997
From: toms@inconnect.com (Thomas M. Schaefer)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:21:46 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Remote controlled RX with TRLOG
Message-ID: <01bd0590$17a1a160$3b32010a@toms.fh.com>
Would this be used for a contest? Perhaps, this would be a good program on
its own since I do not see how a remote receiver could be used for a
contest. Now, a remote transceiver using iphone as the mechanism would be
interesting as well.
73,
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From n6tr@teleport.com Wed Dec 10 23:52:09 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:52:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Multi-multi
Message-ID: <199712102352.PAA22700@user1.teleport.com>
> At N0NI's we had four computers linked and everything ran flawlessly. TR is
> finally working FB for us. Thanks for all your support. Our $100 for
> lifetime updates is on its way to George.
:-) Thanks for the data point Bill.
Tree
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From KT6V@aol.com Thu Dec 11 00:03:33 1997
From: KT6V@aol.com (KT6V)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:03:33 EST
Subject: [TRLog] Strange msg w/6.18
Message-ID: <872ad2a6.348f2dd7@aol.com>
When I start 6.18 for a brief moment (1-2sec) a msg flashes on the screen,
"CRT INIT BUG TRAPPED". What does this mean and could that be the problem with
my MP not interfacing with 6.18?
73 Tom
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From KT6V@aol.com Thu Dec 11 00:03:28 1997
From: KT6V@aol.com (KT6V)
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 19:03:28 EST
Subject: [TRLog] FT1000MP interface problem
Message-ID: <5887dea6.348f2dd4@aol.com>
Can not get the MP to interface with V6.18. Followed the manual explicitely
and still no luck. Am running from the Dos prompt on Pentium 300mhz machine.
Packet interfaces ok but no luck with radio. Have the correct radio type, baud
rate and serial port but still nothing. This same radio interfaces with CT933
and DX4Win with no problems (except CT uses lsb/cw as default).
Anybody else had similar luck or can offer positive solutions?
73 Tom K6CT
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From n6tr@teleport.com Thu Dec 11 17:19:04 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:19:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Strange msg w/6.18
Message-ID: <199712111719.JAA21323@user1.teleport.com>
> When I start 6.18 for a brief moment (1-2sec) a msg flashes on the screen,
> "CRT INIT BUG TRAPPED". What does this mean and could that be the problem with
> my MP not interfacing with 6.18?
I doubt this has anything to do with the MP...
I am not familar with this message, but maybe it is hiding somewhere
in my code. I will check tonight.
Tree
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From n6tr@teleport.com Fri Dec 12 05:45:04 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:45:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] CRT Unit Init Bug Trapped
Message-ID: <199712120545.VAA23502@user2.teleport.com>
This message is in a module I added to fix a compiler problem with
really fast CPUs and the timer routines. It is normal for this message
to appear when it detects a really fast CPU and that the normal timer
routine won't work.
I am going to remove the message since it makes it sound like something
is wrong - when it is really normal.
73 Tree
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From kk7a@micron.net Fri Dec 12 06:13:50 1997
From: kk7a@micron.net (Jim - KK7A)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 23:13:50 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
Message-ID: <199712112313500100.009F322B@relay.micron.net>
During the 160 test this last weekend, there was one individual who did something that was truely amazing to me. It is probably more common that I think but the first time I've really noticed it. He was calling CQ around 27wpm and got a call. When he finished that QSO he called CQ again, but this time slightly faster. It appeared the faster his rate got during this run, the faster his CW became until he was nearing 40wpm or so. Then, when the run stopped, he slowed way back down again.
Most of you are probably saying, "so what? I do that all the time." Well maybe that is why my CW scores are not has good as yours. hi hi Listening to him reminded me of the RUFZ program that gets faster and faster as you go.
Would you guys think it was cool if TR had parameters you could set such as:
MIN CW RUN SPEED = 27
MAX CW RUN SPEED = 40
CW RUN SPEED THRESHOLD = 80
The CW RUN SPEED THRESHOLD would be the rate in number of contacts per hour before TR would start to increase the speed toward the maximum.
Maybe a silly idea since you can just hit the Page Up key to increase the speed manually. But some good ideas start with silly ones, don't they?
73, Jim - KK7A
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From swca@ionet.net Fri Dec 12 16:31:44 1997
From: swca@ionet.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:31:44 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
In-Reply-To: <199712112313500100.009F322B@relay.micron.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971212103144.00691110@ionet.net>
Jim - KK7A, said:
>Would you guys think it was cool if TR had parameters you could set such as:
>
>MIN CW RUN SPEED = 27
>MAX CW RUN SPEED = 40
>CW RUN SPEED THRESHOLD = 80
>
>The CW RUN SPEED THRESHOLD would be the rate in number of contacts per
hour before TR would start to increase the speed toward the maximum.
>
>Maybe a silly idea since you can just hit the Page Up key to increase the
speed manually.
I don't think this is a silly idea at all.
I use this technique sometimes, and it sounds like a good idea, but how
would The Program know when to revert back to the slower setting? I would
go nuts if The Program decided to drop my speed by about 12 WPM when I
wasn't expecting it! I am very happy with how flexible The Program is at
present (regarding CW speed) with one exception (and, of course, I say this
without R'ing TFM, and it could be different by now): I would rather have
the increment of CW speed user defined - 3 WPM is too great a step for my
taste, and PgUp-PgDn is much easier than typing in the speed by hand.
Mark, N5OT
P.S. If indeed this has been changed, only one RTFM response is required,
thanks.
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From jalarson@micron.com Fri Dec 12 18:01:04 1997
From: jalarson@micron.com (jalarson)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:01:04 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
Message-ID:
What about this? Don't worry about a threshold at all. Here is a
senario:
Call CQ, get answer, make QSO and then QRZ.
Response to QRZ? If yes, then increment speed.
If no response to QRZ, then you go back into CQ mode at the same speed.
If you have a CQ that is unanswered then start dropping the speed with
every unanswered CQ.
In summary:
For answered QRZs or CQs increase the speed a notch.
For unanswered QRZs or CQs decrease the speed a notch.
Well?
73, Jim - KK7A
> Jim - KK7A, said:
>Would you guys think it was cool if TR had parameters you could set
such as:
>
>MIN CW RUN SPEED = 27
>MAX CW RUN SPEED = 40
>CW RUN SPEED THRESHOLD = 80
>
>The CW RUN SPEED THRESHOLD would be the rate in number of contacts per
hour before TR would start to increase the speed toward the maximum.
>
>Maybe a silly idea since you can just hit the Page Up key to increase
the
speed manually.
I don't think this is a silly idea at all.
I use this technique sometimes, and it sounds like a good idea, but how
would The Program know when to revert back to the slower setting? I
would
go nuts if The Program decided to drop my speed by about 12 WPM when I
wasn't expecting it! I am very happy with how flexible The Program is
at
present (regarding CW speed) with one exception (and, of course, I say
this
without R'ing TFM, and it could be different by now): I would rather
have
the increment of CW speed user defined - 3 WPM is too great a step for
my
taste, and PgUp-PgDn is much easier than typing in the speed by hand.
Mark, N5OT
P.S. If indeed this has been changed, only one RTFM response is
required,
thanks.
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From n9ssg@pobox.com Fri Dec 12 17:08:06 1997
From: n9ssg@pobox.com (David Yanke)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:08:06 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19971212103144.00691110@ionet.net>
References: <199712112313500100.009F322B@relay.micron.net>
Message-ID: <199712121809.MAA07195@mail.xnet.com>
Gather 'round and here what Mark Beckwith had to say at 10:31 on 12 Dec 97
> P.S. If indeed this has been changed, only one RTFM response is
> required, thanks.
I don't know if it's in there or if it does or doesn't do it, but I
don't want something like this hanging over your head and ruining
your holiday.
RTFM
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From ku7y@sage.dri.edu Fri Dec 12 18:33:17 1997
From: ku7y@sage.dri.edu (Monte Stark)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:33:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19971212103144.00691110@ionet.net>
Message-ID:
An interesting idea has been posted....
How about making the CW speed step size usuer adjustable?
This would let the pge-up/pge-dn take whatever step you
wanted?
I think it's done by percentage. So it could be 1%, 2% etc.
cul,
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From swca@ionet.net Fri Dec 12 19:21:27 1997
From: swca@ionet.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:21:27 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
In-Reply-To:
References: <3.0.2.32.19971212103144.00691110@ionet.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971212132127.006954f4@ionet.net>
>An interesting idea has been posted....
>
>How about making the CW speed step size usuer adjustable?
>
>This would let the pge-up/pge-dn take whatever step you
>wanted?
>
>I think it's done by percentage. So it could be 1%, 2% etc.
Specifying it in WPM would be fine with me.
Mark, N5OT
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From mike@mallardcove.com Sat Dec 13 05:22:46 1997
From: mike@mallardcove.com (Mike Fatchett)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:22:46 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Ft1000mp bug with 6.18
Message-ID: <01BD074C.916D24C0@dialup50.mho.net>
When using the Alt M command to change modes in the 10m contest version 6.18 changes the sub receiver and not the main. Every now and then the ALT M would change the Main vfo but after switching back and forth it would end up switching the sub. I had to revert back to 6.16 and all is ok.
Mike
W0MU
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From v31ry@ix.netcom.com Sat Dec 13 12:22:41 1997
From: v31ry@ix.netcom.com (AE0Q V31RY)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 05:22:41 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19971213122241.0e0feef6@popd.ix.netcom.com>
At 10:33 12-12-97 -0800, KU7Y wrote:
>An interesting idea has been posted....
>
>How about making the CW speed step size usuer adjustable?
>
>This would let the pge-up/pge-dn take whatever step you
>wanted?
>
I'd like to have that, too. Sometimes the 3 wpm jumps are just
a little more than needed (the 2 wpm steps of CT seemed about right)..
73 -- Glenn
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From w7zrc@micron.net Sat Dec 13 13:53:09 1997
From: w7zrc@micron.net (Rod Greene)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 06:53:09 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971213135309.00679390@pophost.micron.net>
At 05:22 AM 12/13/1997 -0700, you wrote:
>At 10:33 12-12-97 -0800, KU7Y wrote:
>>An interesting idea has been posted....
>>
>>How about making the CW speed step size usuer adjustable?
>>
>>This would let the pge-up/pge-dn take whatever step you
>>wanted?
>>
I think we are on to a good idea here. I like the page-up
and down at 3 wpm but there are times when a smaller increment
would suit my needs better. However, I don't want to jump to
set another parameter and then do the page-up or down, it's too
many keystrokes. How about a fine tune version of the page-up
and down that would move it 1 wpm. Could this be done with
a shift-page-up or down?
73, Rod
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From n6tr@teleport.com Sun Dec 14 01:07:35 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 17:07:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
Message-ID: <199712140107.RAA28309@user1.teleport.com>
> I think we are on to a good idea here. I like the page-up
> and down at 3 wpm but there are times when a smaller increment
> would suit my needs better. However, I don't want to jump to
> set another parameter and then do the page-up or down, it's too
> many keystrokes. How about a fine tune version of the page-up
> and down that would move it 1 wpm. Could this be done with
> a shift-page-up or down?
You guys are serious about this...
I am not sure shift-page-up or shift-page-down are the best choices,
since pressing the shift key activates the QSY or RIT functions for
some people.
Probably the best choice would be a function-key message command
that allows you to change your code speed in either incremental
or absolute terms.
So, there will be a new CW MESSAGE command called SPEED in the next
version (I just added it). You can do SPEED## where ## indicates
your CW speed, or SPEED+ to increment you CW speed by 1 WPM, or
SPEED- to decrement by one WPM. You can have more than one plus
or minus if you want the increment to be more.
CW MESSAGE commands work by putting them in a function key message
with a control-C in front of them and a control-d after them. You
can program control charaters while using the Alt-P command by
pressing first control-P and then control-c (or d). They are covered
in the manual (section 4). There are now about a dozen different
commands.
By putting messages like SPPED+ in your CQ EXCHANGE and SPEED25 in
your CQ MESSAGE, you should be able to get the "increasing speed"
effect mentioned earlier.
Tree
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From no6x@inreach.com Sun Dec 14 04:38:05 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 04:38:05 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] RATE METER
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971214043805.006a2c2c@inreach.com>
Does the rate meter in TRLog measure the rate per hour of the last 10, 50,
100, ???
Just so that I will know what that 266 was realitive to.
And please pardon me if the answer is RTFM!
Mike...NO6X
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From no6x@inreach.com Sun Dec 14 05:13:00 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 05:13:00 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] RATE METER
In-Reply-To: <199712140436.UAA09405@user1.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971214051300.006c5fbc@inreach.com>
At 08:36 PM 12/13/97 -0800, Tree wrote:
>Last 10 minutes.
>
Bummer, I thought I was really kicking butt!!!
was still fun while it lasted.Still can't believe that was 10 meters!
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From swca@ionet.net Sun Dec 14 23:04:35 1997
From: swca@ionet.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 17:04:35 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19971212131732.0069a250@ionet.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971214170435.00693164@ionet.net>
If this were available I would certainly like to play with it. It would
want to retain the upper and lower limits, though (gosh, or maybe not). It
could be called the "intelligent speed" feature.
MArk, N5OT
>What about this? Don't worry about a threshold at all. Here is a
>senario:
>
>Call CQ, get answer, make QSO and then QRZ.
>Response to QRZ? If yes, then increment speed.
>If no response to QRZ, then you go back into CQ mode at the same speed.
>If you have a CQ that is unanswered then start dropping the speed with
>every unanswered CQ.
>
>In summary:
>For answered QRZs or CQs increase the speed a notch.
>For unanswered QRZs or CQs decrease the speed a notch.
>
> Well?
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From n4gn@iglou.com Mon Dec 15 03:21:35 1997
From: n4gn@iglou.com (Tim Totten, N4GN)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:21:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TRLog] 6.16/6.18 observations
Message-ID:
Here are some random thoughts from using 6.16 in Iceland (TF/OH4GN and WW
CW from TF3IRA) and 6.18 in ARRL 10 from home. (NOTE--I am NOT the QSL
manager for TF3IRA!!!!!!)
- Finished wiring up the PTT ckt at 2356Z on Friday night before WW. Why
haven't I used this before?! Man, this is my new favorite feature of
TR--simply fantastic! [As an aside, I've done a lot of analysis of my
busted calls over the years, and darn near half of them on CW have been
caused by missing the first CW element of a call--e.g., G4ABC becomes
N4ABC. This feature will absolutely improve my busted call percentage!]
- This may be a total nightmare to code properly, but scoring for /MM
stations in WW needs to be based on their zone and not their home call.
For example, from TF3IRA, we worked UA2FM/MM in zone 33. We should get 3
points for that (zone 33 is Africa), not just 1 (UA2 is Europe). I would
put this at low-to-medium priority--hopefully it can be looked at before
next year's WW.
- How 'bout some simple validation before logging CQ zones? I'm just
thinking of 01 <= zone <= 40. A couple times I'd try to change a 5 to a 4
(or whatever), get going a bit too fast, and end up logging zone 54 or 44
or something equally invalid. I just used Ctrl-N to make a note to fix it
later, but I'd rather have TR beep at me and force me to log it right in
the first place. Just something very low priority for the wish list.
- The REPEAT S&P EXCHANGE works perfectly now. Tnx Tree!
- The "mult needs for" box covering up part of the mults list has always
been a minor annoyance to me. In the past, I've always been able to
restore the mults list by hitting Esc a time or two. But for some reason,
in the 10-meter contest, this didn't work in SSB mode. It does still work
on CW. Kinda weird . . . .
- Along this same line, would it be possible to keep small mults lists
always to the left of the area for the "mults need for" box? In other
words, if you only have a small number of mults (like SS, or the domestic
mults for 160 or 10), they would never get covered up. I realize you need
the space for DX mults. Another very low priority wish list thing.
- Another very minor weird thing . . . when in SSB S&P mode and switching
to CW (still S&P mode), the little down arrow auto send character count
position marker thingy shows up (as if you were in CQ mode). It doesn't
seem to do anything, however.
73,
Tim Totten, n4gn@iglou.com
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From no6x@inreach.com Mon Dec 15 03:56:44 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 03:56:44 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] 10 meter contest glich??
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971215035644.006bfee0@inreach.com>
I don't know if it is only in this contest, maybe others found the same
problem. When switching back and forth from cw to phone I find it easier to
just keep one in VFO A and the other in the VFO B. When switching back and
forth the program would follow everything except the mults needed would
not, I found if I hit ALT-M twice and cycle the program through it, the
mults needed window would then change.
Perhaps once it even logged a Q as a new multi, that should not have been,
when the mults needed windows was not switched, I noticed it when I did it,
but did not have time to double check. I have not looked back in the log to
see if it did or not.
I will play with the log tomorrow, and run all of the reports, and see what
it says.
Anyone else notice this? Or does everyone else do things
differently.
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From jfunk@adams.net Mon Dec 15 04:00:41 1997
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:00:41 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] 10 meter contest glich??
Message-ID: <199712150400.WAA22885@golden.adams.net>
Using 6.15, I noticed the same thing. The mults window didn't change until
I'd made a contact on the other mode. Not a big deal, but sorta surprised
me a couple of times.
73, Jim N9JF op W9SMC
> I don't know if it is only in this contest, maybe others found the same
>problem. When switching back and forth from cw to phone I find it easier to
>just keep one in VFO A and the other in the VFO B. When switching back and
>forth the program would follow everything except the mults needed would
>not, I found if I hit ALT-M twice and cycle the program through it, the
>mults needed window would then change.
> Perhaps once it even logged a Q as a new multi, that should not have been,
>when the mults needed windows was not switched, I noticed it when I did it,
>but did not have time to double check. I have not looked back in the log to
>see if it did or not.
>I will play with the log tomorrow, and run all of the reports, and see what
>it says.
>Anyone else notice this? Or does everyone else do things
>differently.
>
>Mike...NO6X
>
>
>
>Check out my home page at http://home.inreach.com/no6x
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From aa4ga@contesting.com Mon Dec 15 04:19:56 1997
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers, AA4GA)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:19:56 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] 10 meter contest glich??
Message-ID: <199712150418.XAA13546@dayton.akorn.net>
On 14 Dec 97, jim funk wrote:
> Using 6.15, I noticed the same thing. The mults window didn't change until
> I'd made a contact on the other mode. Not a big deal, but sorta surprised
> me a couple of times.
Using 6.17, I thought it wasn't changing until a new mult was worked.
Which wasn't very often! I figured that I could cycle throught two
alt-Gs to update the mult display for the mode I was on.
I was using two radios, one per mode, and changed modes by using
alt-R, not alt-M or changing the radio. I was thinking about
reporting this as a bug, but I figured it was pretty cool to be CQing
on CW and tuning on SSB with the SSB needed mults showing (or vice
versa)!
73 de Lee
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From oolon@eskimo.com Mon Dec 15 04:22:22 1997
From: oolon@eskimo.com (Jack Fleming)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:22:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] 6.16/6.18 observations
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID:
On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Tim Totten, N4GN wrote:
> - Finished wiring up the PTT ckt at 2356Z on Friday night before WW. Why
> haven't I used this before?! Man, this is my new favorite feature of
> TR--simply fantastic!
I found "my new favorite feature of TR" during the 10 meter contest too -
that nifty random CQ calling feature that randomly grabs F1-F4 everytime
it calls CQ (using the ALT-Q/ALT-C automatic calling feature...). Really
fun to hear the different CQs instead of the endless repetition of F1
every time. Only downside is giving up F2 and F3 (which I usually have
the exchange and callsign stuck in... they'll have to move over to F4 and
F5 I guess...)
*****************************************************************
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From n6tr@teleport.com Mon Dec 15 05:53:35 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:53:35 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] 10 meter contest glich??
Message-ID: <199712150553.VAA23220@user1.teleport.com>
> > Using 6.15, I noticed the same thing. The mults window didn't change until
> > I'd made a contact on the other mode. Not a big deal, but sorta surprised
> > me a couple of times.
>
> Using 6.17, I thought it wasn't changing until a new mult was worked.
> Which wasn't very often! I figured that I could cycle throught two
> alt-Gs to update the mult display for the mode I was on.
>
> I was using two radios, one per mode, and changed modes by using
> alt-R, not alt-M or changing the radio. I was thinking about
> reporting this as a bug, but I figured it was pretty cool to be CQing
> on CW and tuning on SSB with the SSB needed mults showing (or vice
> versa)!
Well - the program will update the remaining mults window if you
change bands, but for some reason, I didn't make it do it if you
only changed modes (and have MULTS PER MODE = TRUE). This
is fixed for the next vresion.
I don't believe any errors with mults were generated as a result
of this bug. It only meant the proper list wasn't displayed until
you worked someone.
Tree
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From n6tr@teleport.com Mon Dec 15 06:12:58 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:12:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] 6.16/6.18 observations
Message-ID: <199712150612.WAA24588@user1.teleport.com>
> - Finished wiring up the PTT ckt at 2356Z on Friday night before WW. Why
> haven't I used this before?! Man, this is my new favorite feature of
> TR--simply fantastic! [As an aside, I've done a lot of analysis of my
> busted calls over the years, and darn near half of them on CW have been
> caused by missing the first CW element of a call--e.g., G4ABC becomes
> N4ABC. This feature will absolutely improve my busted call percentage!]
I heard a local during the contest on phone who had a delay after
his CQ machine finished the CQ. He would often miss the first
letter of the callsign. PTT control of the radio is the ONLY way
to go! I guess break-in is also okay, but I think it adds a lot
of fatique and isn't as useful with two radios.
> - This may be a total nightmare to code properly, but scoring for /MM
> stations in WW needs to be based on their zone and not their home call.
> For example, from TF3IRA, we worked UA2FM/MM in zone 33. We should get 3
> points for that (zone 33 is Africa), not just 1 (UA2 is Europe). I would
> put this at low-to-medium priority--hopefully it can be looked at before
> next year's WW.
>
If it was easy to code, it would already be implemented. It gets even
messier because some zones have more than one continent in them.
> - How 'bout some simple validation before logging CQ zones? I'm just
> thinking of 01 <= zone <= 40. A couple times I'd try to change a 5 to a 4
> (or whatever), get going a bit too fast, and end up logging zone 54 or 44
> or something equally invalid. I just used Ctrl-N to make a note to fix it
> later, but I'd rather have TR beep at me and force me to log it right in
> the first place. Just something very low priority for the wish list.
This could probably be done.
> - The "mult needs for" box covering up part of the mults list has always
> been a minor annoyance to me. In the past, I've always been able to
> restore the mults list by hitting Esc a time or two. But for some reason,
> in the 10-meter contest, this didn't work in SSB mode. It does still work
> on CW. Kinda weird . . . .
Are you using the BIG REMAINING LIST option? If you turn it off, the
window won't be as wide.
> - Along this same line, would it be possible to keep small mults lists
> always to the left of the area for the "mults need for" box? In other
> words, if you only have a small number of mults (like SS, or the domestic
> mults for 160 or 10), they would never get covered up. I realize you need
> the space for DX mults. Another very low priority wish list thing.
BIG REMAINING LIST = FALSE
> - Another very minor weird thing . . . when in SSB S&P mode and switching
> to CW (still S&P mode), the little down arrow auto send character count
> position marker thingy shows up (as if you were in CQ mode). It doesn't
> seem to do anything, however.
This is fixed for the next release. Hopefully there isn't a case
now when it doesn't appear when it should.
73 Tree
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From vr2bg@harts.org.hk Mon Dec 15 08:17:03 1997
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR97BrettGraham)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:17:03 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL 10m contest mults
Message-ID: <3.0.2.16.19971215081703.470feb70@pop.asiaonline.net>
The .DOM file that is used for ARRL 10m can't handle /MMs. Found this out
when S51AG/MM wouldn't log. Not sure where else S50DC13P.DOM or whatever
it is might be used, so added r1, r2 & r3 to the end & saved it as
ARRL10.DOM & changed LOGCFG.DAT to use that file instead...
73, VR97BrettGraham
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From tomwagner@mindspring.com Mon Dec 15 11:33:23 1997
From: tomwagner@mindspring.com (Wagner)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:33:23 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] 6.16/6.18 observations
References: <199712150612.WAA24588@user1.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <3495157C.8042293B@mindspring.com>
PTT is definitely the way to go, Tree.
Why didn't you implement it via the radio
serial interface? It might not handle all
situations, but it would save some
TR users from having to wire up the
interface.
73,
Tom
Tree N6TR wrote:
> > - Finished wiring up the PTT ckt at 2356Z on Friday night before WW. Why
> > haven't I used this before?! Man, this is my new favorite feature of
> > TR--simply fantastic! [As an aside, I've done a lot of analysis of my
> > busted calls over the years, and darn near half of them on CW have been
> > caused by missing the first CW element of a call--e.g., G4ABC becomes
> > N4ABC. This feature will absolutely improve my busted call percentage!]
>
> I heard a local during the contest on phone who had a delay after
> his CQ machine finished the CQ. He would often miss the first
> letter of the callsign. PTT control of the radio is the ONLY way
> to go! I guess break-in is also okay, but I think it adds a lot
> of fatique and isn't as useful with two radios.
>
> > - This may be a total nightmare to code properly, but scoring for /MM
> > stations in WW needs to be based on their zone and not their home call.
> > For example, from TF3IRA, we worked UA2FM/MM in zone 33. We should get 3
> > points for that (zone 33 is Africa), not just 1 (UA2 is Europe). I would
> > put this at low-to-medium priority--hopefully it can be looked at before
> > next year's WW.
> >
>
> If it was easy to code, it would already be implemented. It gets even
> messier because some zones have more than one continent in them.
>
> > - How 'bout some simple validation before logging CQ zones? I'm just
> > thinking of 01 <= zone <= 40. A couple times I'd try to change a 5 to a 4
> > (or whatever), get going a bit too fast, and end up logging zone 54 or 44
> > or something equally invalid. I just used Ctrl-N to make a note to fix it
> > later, but I'd rather have TR beep at me and force me to log it right in
> > the first place. Just something very low priority for the wish list.
>
> This could probably be done.
>
> > - The "mult needs for" box covering up part of the mults list has always
> > been a minor annoyance to me. In the past, I've always been able to
> > restore the mults list by hitting Esc a time or two. But for some reason,
> > in the 10-meter contest, this didn't work in SSB mode. It does still work
> > on CW. Kinda weird . . . .
>
> Are you using the BIG REMAINING LIST option? If you turn it off, the
> window won't be as wide.
>
> > - Along this same line, would it be possible to keep small mults lists
> > always to the left of the area for the "mults need for" box? In other
> > words, if you only have a small number of mults (like SS, or the domestic
> > mults for 160 or 10), they would never get covered up. I realize you need
> > the space for DX mults. Another very low priority wish list thing.
>
> BIG REMAINING LIST = FALSE
>
> > - Another very minor weird thing . . . when in SSB S&P mode and switching
> > to CW (still S&P mode), the little down arrow auto send character count
> > position marker thingy shows up (as if you were in CQ mode). It doesn't
> > seem to do anything, however.
>
> This is fixed for the next release. Hopefully there isn't a case
> now when it doesn't appear when it should.
>
> 73 Tree
>
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From n6tr@teleport.com Mon Dec 15 14:05:39 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:05:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] 6.16/6.18 observations
Message-ID: <199712151405.GAA17759@user1.teleport.com>
> PTT is definitely the way to go, Tree.
>
> Why didn't you implement it via the radio
> serial interface? It might not handle all
> situations, but it would save some
> TR users from having to wire up the
> interface.
I am not sure all radios have PTT available via the serial port.
Also, using the serial interface wouldn't be responsive enough.
Some of the radios require 50 ms or longer to send a command to.
This would add a delay the length of a dah.
Tree
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From no6x@inreach.com Mon Dec 15 15:04:03 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:04:03 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL 10m contest mults
In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.16.19971215081703.470feb70@pop.asiaonline.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971215150403.006d81f0@inreach.com>
>The .DOM file that is used for ARRL 10m can't handle /MMs.
It also does not know what to do with /T or /n stations, it will give you
points as a Q but not the correct points.
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From ehayes@vnet.IBM.COM Mon Dec 15 19:52:50 1997
From: ehayes@vnet.IBM.COM (ehayes@vnet.IBM.COM)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 97 13:52:50 CST
Subject: [TRLog] V6.18 and NONSSB in 10 Meter Test
Message-ID: <199712151959.OAA08933@dayton.akorn.net>
Just wondered if anyone else had any of their contacts logged
as NONSSB in the band column? This only happened 3 or 4 times
and is easy to fix during a post contest edit of the log.dat
file. Did I do something wrong to cause this?
All of these contacts were when I was in the ssb portion of
the band. None of my cw contacts showed up this way.
Wayne AJ5M ehayes@vnet.ibm.com
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From kirk@music-city.tdec.state.tn.us Mon Dec 15 21:15:40 1997
From: kirk@music-city.tdec.state.tn.us (kirk@music-city.tdec.state.tn.us)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:15:40 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Qrate for TR-Log
Message-ID: <199712152115.PAA04000@isd7.tdec.state.tn.us>
Is there an equivalent of Qrate for TR log files?
The last time I checked, it only worked for CT files.
The Rate Report under the Report Menu is not the same
as Qrate, which calculates peak rates. One option of
course is to use a log converter, but I was trying to
save a step or two. Any ideas?
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From geoiii@bga.com Mon Dec 15 21:29:16 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:29:16 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Qrate for TR-Log
In-Reply-To: <199712152115.PAA04000@isd7.tdec.state.tn.us> from "kirk@music-city.tdec.state.tn.us" at Dec 15, 97 03:15:40 pm
Message-ID: <199712152129.PAA03460@zoom.bga.com>
kirk@music-city.tdec.state.tn.us writes:
>
>Is there an equivalent of Qrate for TR log files?
>The last time I checked, it only worked for CT files.
>The Rate Report under the Report Menu is not the same
>as Qrate, which calculates peak rates. One option of
>course is to use a log converter, but I was trying to
>save a step or two. Any ideas?
Qrate will work - here is what you do:
Use POST L A to convert your log to arrl format.
Then Qrate will work.
rate k5tr.log rate.10m 16
The offset is 16 for the arrl format log.
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From ThomasJ@shbank.com Mon Dec 15 22:18:35 1997
From: ThomasJ@shbank.com (Thomas Johnson)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:18:35 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Radio Hookup
Message-ID:
I noticed that I will need the IF232 to hook up my computer (and TR) to the Kenwood 850.
Do I need to buy this if 232 or can I build one cheaper, or what are my alternatives?
Plus, I have the same problem with the Yaesu FT990
Thanks,
Tom
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From ThomasJ@shbank.com Mon Dec 15 22:25:18 1997
From: ThomasJ@shbank.com (Thomas Johnson)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:25:18 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Band Map
Message-ID:
I still think that the band map is the coolest thing..
I noticed that when I put in a call and hit the space bar to check if it is a dupe, i notice that it puts the guys call in the band map... now, if I never am able to get the guy, then I hit escape, the guy is still in the band map (Which is great for future reference) but there is a * next to his call which lets me know that I worked him already.. is this normal?
Thanks,
Tom
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From n9ssg@pobox.com Mon Dec 15 21:26:41 1997
From: n9ssg@pobox.com (David Yanke)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:26:41 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Radio Hookup
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <199712152228.QAA12686@mail.xnet.com>
Gather 'round and here what Thomas Johnson had to say at 16:18 on 15 Dec 97
> I noticed that I will need the IF232 to hook up my computer (and TR)
> to the Kenwood 850.
>
> Do I need to buy this if 232 or can I build one cheaper, or what are
> my alternatives? Plus, I have the same problem with the Yaesu FT990
> Thanks, Tom K9KJ
I believe Dennis, the author of LOGic!, offers one on his page for
about $50. http://www.hosenose.com . Obtaining a IF232 is getting
tough. I know you additionaly need the chips installed on a TS940 to
use the 232, I'm not sure if this is a requirement with the 850 tho.
Good Luck,
Dave
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From k6xx@jps.net Mon Dec 15 23:40:09 1997
From: k6xx@jps.net (Bob Wolbert)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:40:09 -0800
Subject: [TRLog] Radio Hookup
References:
Message-ID: <3495BFD9.749A@jps.net>
Tom,
You may build the circuit very easily. Tree has a super-simplified
version in the TR-Log manual. I have a slightly more complicated version
(it provides all four data lines and is RF filtered) shown on my web
site:
http://www.jps.net/k6xx/pctsinfc.pdf
Don't pay >$100 to Kenwood!!! The money you save would pay for your
lifetime subscription to TR-Log!
73 de Bob, K6XX
Thomas Johnson wrote:
>
> I noticed that I will need the IF232 to hook up my computer (and TR) to the Kenwood 850.
>
> Do I need to buy this if 232 or can I build one cheaper, or what are my alternatives?
> Plus, I have the same problem with the Yaesu FT990
> Thanks,
> Tom
> K9KJ
>
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From geoiii@bga.com Mon Dec 15 23:02:57 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:02:57 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Band Map
In-Reply-To: from "Thomas Johnson" at Dec 15, 97 04:25:18 pm
Message-ID: <199712152302.RAA22229@zoom.bga.com>
Thomas Johnson writes:
>
>I still think that the band map is the coolest thing..
>
>I noticed that when I put in a call and hit the space bar to check if it is a dupe, i notice that it puts the guys call in the band map... now, if I never am able to get the guy, then I hit escape, the guy is still in the band map (Which is great for future reference) but there is a * next to his call which lets me know that I worked him already.. is this normal?
>
That is how it is designed to work.
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From geoiii@bga.com Mon Dec 15 23:11:46 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:11:46 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Radio Hookup
In-Reply-To: from "Thomas Johnson" at Dec 15, 97 04:18:35 pm
Message-ID: <199712152311.RAA23601@zoom.bga.com>
>
>I noticed that I will need the IF232 to hook up my computer (and TR) to the Kenwood 850.
>
>Do I need to buy this if 232 or can I build one cheaper, or what are my alternatives?
>Plus, I have the same problem with the Yaesu FT990
>Thanks,
>Tom
>K9KJ
I use a diode and a resistor to interface my two ts-850 radios.
You might also want to look at this web page as it
has designs for KENWOOD and ICOM interfaces. They
look simple enough.
http://www.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk/~mzyd108/interfaces.html
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From geoiii@bga.com Mon Dec 15 23:17:39 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:17:39 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] V6.18 and NONSSB in 10 Meter Test
In-Reply-To: <199712151959.OAA08933@dayton.akorn.net> from "ehayes@vnet.IBM.COM" at Dec 15, 97 01:52:50 pm
Message-ID: <199712152317.RAA24490@zoom.bga.com>
>Just wondered if anyone else had any of their contacts logged
>as NONSSB in the band column? This only happened 3 or 4 times
>and is easy to fix during a post contest edit of the log.dat
>file. Did I do something wrong to cause this?
>All of these contacts were when I was in the ssb portion of
>the band. None of my cw contacts showed up this way.
>
My guess is that for those QSOs the signals between
your radio and computer got destroyed by the RF
that you have been having trouble with.
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From aa4ga@contesting.com Mon Dec 15 23:57:11 1997
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers, AA4GA)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:57:11 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] PTT
Message-ID: <199712152355.SAA15084@dayton.akorn.net>
On 14 Dec 97, Tree N6TR wrote:
> I heard a local during the contest on phone who had a delay after
> his CQ machine finished the CQ. He would often miss the first
> letter of the callsign. PTT control of the radio is the ONLY way
> to go! I guess break-in is also okay, but I think it adds a lot
> of fatique and isn't as useful with two radios.
I agree. I've got a PTT box built up and usually no problems, but
this weekend, when I had PTT turned on, all that came out of the CW
port was key-down. I could turn PTT off and the CW was fine. It
worked OK last weekend...
Any of you hardware guys got any ideas for this appliance operator?
73 de Lee
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From n9tu@qsl.net Mon Dec 15 23:56:43 1997
From: n9tu@qsl.net (Jerry Fray)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:56:43 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Radio Hookup
References: <3495BFD9.749A@jps.net>
Message-ID: <3495C3BB.73EE5D06@qsl.net>
>
> You may build the circuit very easily. Tree has a super-simplified
> version in the TR-Log manual. I have a slightly more complicated version
> (it provides all four data lines and is RF filtered) shown on my web
> site:
>
> http://www.jps.net/k6xx/pctsinfc.pdf
>
> Don't pay >$100 to Kenwood!!! The money you save would pay for your
> lifetime subscription to TR-Log!
>
> 73 de Bob, K6XX
>
This was a VERY well written project for Kenwoods! Did you or anyone
else do this for Icom and Yaesu radios??
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From v31ry@ix.netcom.com Mon Dec 15 23:59:29 1997
From: v31ry@ix.netcom.com (AE0Q V31RY)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:59:29 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Radio Hookup
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19971215235929.2ecf6ade@popd.ix.netcom.com>
At 16:18 15-12-97 -0600, K9KJ wrote:
>I noticed that I will need the IF232 to hook up my computer (and TR) to the
Kenwood 850.
>
>Do I need to buy this if 232 or can I build one cheaper, or what are my
alternatives?
>Plus, I have the same problem with the Yaesu FT990
There are interface circuits in a QST article for both radios in Feb 1993
QST.. The circuit for Kenwood TS-450/950/850 rigs uses about $10 worth of
parts, and is optically-isolated between the rig and PC. I've built 4 of
them (using PC boards I got from the author), they work great with my and
some friends' TS-450s radios. Same interface requirements as the TS-850..
On another interface subject, you might want to check out the
opto-isolated keying circuit on my web site for keying the rig on CW.. It
has no DC connection between the PC port and the radio, preventing a
ground-loop or RF path to blow the LPT or serial ports.. Been making a lot
of them for friends, they use a $0.50 opto from Tech America or DigiKey..
The same ckt will also work for keying the PTT, two can be built in the
DB-25 for the LPT connector..
Have fun! -- Glenn
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From wday@cq.net Tue Dec 16 00:29:10 1997
From: wday@cq.net (Wayne Day)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:29:10 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] Radio Hookup
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971216002910.006980e4@mailhost.cq.net>
At 04:18 PM 12/15/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I noticed that I will need the IF232 to hook up my computer (and TR) to the Kenwood 850.
I'm told by folks who are using it that the interface described here will interface to
the 850 without the need for purchasing the IF-232. I was asking because Santa is bringing
my 850 - should be here this week!
73 Wayne N5WD
===============================================
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Interface for the TS-850, without using the IF-232
Level Converter. Mod developed by N6TR and possibly others,
with zener idea added by K6LL.
470 ohms
DB9 PIN 3 (TXD)>----/\/\/\/\------------------------------------------------------------ <3495BFD9.749A@jps.net> <3495C3BB.73EE5D06@qsl.net>
Message-ID: <3495DA27.1D1B@jps.net>
Jerry Fray wrote:
>
> >
> > You may build the circuit very easily. Tree has a super-simplified
> > version in the TR-Log manual. I have a slightly more complicated version
> > (it provides all four data lines and is RF filtered) shown on my web
> > site:
> >
> > http://www.jps.net/k6xx/pctsinfc.pdf
> >
> > Don't pay >$100 to Kenwood!!! The money you save would pay for your
> > lifetime subscription to TR-Log!
> >
> > 73 de Bob, K6XX
> >
> This was a VERY well written project for Kenwoods! Did you or anyone
> else do this for Icom and Yaesu radios??
>
> --
> -73-
> Jerry N9TU
Thank you, Jerry.
As a matter of fact, I do have something for Icoms. It should work with
any of their CI-V -equipped rigs. It also decodes their BAND output
voltage to drive DuneStar filters, etc. (I prefer having the radio tell
the filter/amp which band it is on, rather than the computer...).
Find it at:
http://www.jps.net/k6xx/icbsciv.htm
The only Yaesu that has ever interested me is the FT1000MP, which has a
real serial port--no interface required. I am not sure, but believe some
Yaesus have a TTL-level serial interface, so the Kenwood interface might
do the trick--assuming you get the radio end pin-out correct.
Finally, since you are such a great "customer" (hi), there are more
write-ups on the web site that might interest you. Check 'em out, and
let me know if anything else is useful!
73 de Bob, K6XX
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From geoiii@bga.com Tue Dec 16 01:35:18 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 19:35:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Qrate for TR-Log
In-Reply-To: <199712152358.RAA01302@zoom.bga.com> from "Lee Hiers, AA4GA" at Dec 15, 97 11:59:40 pm
Message-ID: <199712160135.TAA16789@zoom.bga.com>
>
>> Qrate will work - here is what you do:
>
>Speaking of Qrate...
>
>I've lost my copy...you know where it lives so I can download it?
>
>73 de Lee
>
Yep.
ftp://ve7tcp.ampr.org/software/ct/
Then look for qrate.zip
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From aa4ga@contesting.com Tue Dec 16 02:45:58 1997
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers, AA4GA)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 02:45:58 +0000
Subject: Icom Radio Inteface & Re: [TRLog] Radio Hookup
Message-ID: <199712160244.VAA21169@dayton.akorn.net>
On 15 Dec 97, Bob Wolbert wrote:
> The only Yaesu that has ever interested me is the FT1000MP, which has a
> real serial port--no interface required. I am not sure, but believe some
> Yaesus have a TTL-level serial interface, so the Kenwood interface might
> do the trick--assuming you get the radio end pin-out correct.
I got a DX Solutions box for my Kenwood TS440 at Dayton a few years
back. In the documentation, I think I remember seeing that the same
box was used with either Kenwood or Yaesu with some internal jumpers
being used to select the radio type...or maybe it was a different
cable. Anyway, I think the level conversion required is probably the
same, but the radio pinout is different.
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From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Dec 16 02:44:50 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:44:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Band Map
Message-ID: <199712160244.SAA20084@user1.teleport.com>
> >I still think that the band map is the coolest thing..
> >
> >I noticed that when I put in a call and hit the space bar to check if it is a dupe, i notice that it puts the guys call in the band map... now, if I never am able to get the guy, then I hit escape, the guy is still in the band map (Which is great for future reference) but there is a * next to his call which lets me know that I worked him already.. is this normal?
> >
>
>
> That is how it is designed to work.
Well, I thought I fixed the asterisk problem. What version?
Tree
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From scott@purdue.edu Tue Dec 16 04:17:05 1997
From: scott@purdue.edu (Scott A. Stembaugh)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:17:05 EST
Subject: [TRLog] Dualing Mixed mode
Message-ID: <940CC7406E@freh-01.freh.purdue.edu>
Not that I am in a position to try but is it possible to do dualing
mixed mode CQs for mixed mode contests? Single band?
--scott N9LJX
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From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Dec 16 04:59:12 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:59:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Dualing Mixed mode
Message-ID: <199712160459.UAA01228@user1.teleport.com>
> Not that I am in a position to try but is it possible to do dualing
> mixed mode CQs for mixed mode contests? Single band?
I don't think this will work (yet). Two radios on different modes
is a place I haven't really work out all of the details.
Someday...
Tree
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From vr2bg@harts.org.hk Tue Dec 16 06:54:58 1997
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR97BrettGraham)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 06:54:58 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL 10m contest mults
Message-ID: <3.0.2.16.19971216065458.09ff66e8@pop.asiaonline.net>
NO6X added this observation to mine about ARRL 10m /MM mults:
It also does not know what to do with /T or /n stations, it will give you
points as a Q but not the correct points.
BTW, I was using 6.17...
In FCONTEST.PAS the ARRL 10m will use ARRL10QSOPointMethod (or something
like that), so maybe it's the /T or /N causing the thing not to recognize
the call as a domestic.
I only managed two W Qs in the contest, so luckily (or is that unluckily?)
no worries here about missing on those eight pointers!
73, VR97BrettGraham
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From becker@SPRINTMAIL.COM Tue Dec 16 05:52:28 1997
From: becker@SPRINTMAIL.COM (Tony and Celia Becker)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:52:28 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] PTT and QSK
In-Reply-To: <199712150612.WAA24588@user1.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971215225228.00d5dbe8@pop.a001.sprintmail.com>
Hi Tree!
At 10:12 PM 12/14/97 -0800, Tree N6TR wrote:
>I heard a local during the contest on phone who had a delay after
>his CQ machine finished the CQ. He would often miss the first
>letter of the callsign. PTT control of the radio is the ONLY way
>to go! I guess break-in is also okay, but I think it adds a lot
>of fatique and isn't as useful with two radios.
One thing which still bugs me is the way the PTT delay works on CW if you
sent the delay to 0 dits. It leaves the PTT permanently active!
What it intuitively should do is deactivate after a delay equal to the turn
on delay. This would allow those of us who find QSK advantageous to use
TRLog ' PTT feature. With the adjustable turn on delay, we could even use
it with non-QSK amps at slow speed.
Also a low priority.
73
AE0M, Tony Becker - becker@sprintmail.com - Silicon Valley, USA
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From k1ky@bellsouth.net Tue Dec 16 07:14:17 1997
From: k1ky@bellsouth.net (Tom Delker)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 01:14:17 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL 10m contest mults
References: <3.0.2.16.19971216065458.09ff66e8@pop.asiaonline.net>
Message-ID: <34962A49.40EB@bellsouth.net>
My 6.18 scored the CW /N Q's properly at 8 points and the SSB /N /T at 2
points as it should.
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From k1ky@bellsouth.net Tue Dec 16 07:18:00 1997
From: k1ky@bellsouth.net (Tom Delker)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 01:18:00 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Laptops - need more serial ports
Message-ID: <34962B28.763@bellsouth.net>
I need more serial ports for use with TR (a.k.a. Rat Log) with my laptop
computer. It has 2 PCMCIA ports, one of which is tied up with a modem.
It has only one serial port and I could use 2 more for network and 2nd
rig connection.
Has anyone overcome this? Are there any PCMCIA multi-serial cards out
there? If not, possibly a network card and a multi-serial box that
connects via ethernet?
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Stones River A.R.C. (K4FUN) - http://www.Voy.net/~rfi/stones.html
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From hremijn@zeelandnet.nl Tue Dec 16 07:36:16 1997
From: hremijn@zeelandnet.nl (Henk Remijn)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:36:16 +0100
Subject: [TRLog] V6.18 and NONSSB in 10 Meter Test
References: <199712151959.OAA08933@dayton.akorn.net>
Message-ID: <34962F70.CFB83FDB@zeelandnet.nl>
ehayes@vnet.IBM.COM wrote:
>
> Just wondered if anyone else had any of their contacts logged
> as NONSSB in the band column? This only happened 3 or 4 times
> and is easy to fix during a post contest edit of the log.dat
> file. Did I do something wrong to cause this?
> All of these contacts were when I was in the ssb portion of
> the band. None of my cw contacts showed up this way.
>
> Wayne AJ5M ehayes@vnet.ibm.com
>
> --
We had this during CQWW. Due to some RFI the band changed to 2m, and
that frequency was not allowed in the CQWW.
Maybe you had the same problem.
73, Henk
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From hremijn@zeelandnet.nl Tue Dec 16 07:38:08 1997
From: hremijn@zeelandnet.nl (Henk Remijn)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:38:08 +0100
Subject: [TRLog] Radio Hookup
References:
Message-ID: <34962FE0.DD26170F@zeelandnet.nl>
Thomas Johnson wrote:
>
> I noticed that I will need the IF232 to hook up my computer (and TR)
> to the Kenwood 850.
>
> Do I need to buy this if 232 or can I build one cheaper, or what are
> my alternatives?
> Plus, I have the same problem with the Yaesu FT990
> Thanks,
> Tom
> K9KJ
I am using a interface from Datamatrix, costs are around $50.
http://www.qth.com/prolog
73, Henk
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From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Dec 16 14:22:09 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 06:22:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL 10 and /T or /N
Message-ID: <199712161422.GAA02512@user2.teleport.com>
How come when I start up TR in a new directory, select the 10 meter
contest, leave it in CW, enter the call W6DGH/T or K4BAI/N, they
both get scored with 8 points...
Tree
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From no6x@inreach.com Tue Dec 16 15:18:43 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:18:43 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL 10 and /T or /N
In-Reply-To: <199712161422.GAA02512@user2.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971216151843.006e8be0@inreach.com>
I'm sorry the one that I had was on ssb and should not have been 8 points
anyway. Brain fade I guess, I think my brain is getting older than me from
all the contesting.
Got water to wash down my foot?
Mike...NO6X
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From w4au@contesting.com Tue Dec 16 19:21:21 1997
From: w4au@contesting.com (John Unger)
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:21:21 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Laptops - need more serial ports
In-Reply-To: <34962B28.763@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971216142121.00e30934@mailrvag2.er.usgs.gov>
At 01:18 AM 12/16/97 -0600, you wrote:
>I need more serial ports for use with TR (a.k.a. Rat Log) with my laptop
>computer. It has 2 PCMCIA ports, one of which is tied up with a modem.
>It has only one serial port and I could use 2 more for network and 2nd
>rig connection.
>
>Has anyone overcome this? Are there any PCMCIA multi-serial cards out
>there? If not, possibly a network card and a multi-serial box that
>connects via ethernet?
>
Tom - I recently asked the same question in the cq-contest mail list and
received these answers:
I recently purchased the Silicom dual-port serial card. It works great
and the Silicom folks are really good with product support. I thought I
had problems and they (actually the vendor from whom I bought the card)
replaced the card once. I have not taken the time to get it running on
both DOS and Win95 but have been able to make it work on DOS when
booting into DOS and in WIN when booting into WIn. It cost $189 from
Essex Portable Computers. You can find them on the web but if not, let
me know and I can send you a phone number. Also great folks to work
with. I recommend the Silicom over the Quatech because it has better
cable connectors for both ports and you can individually select IRQs for
each port, which you need to do for CT and which you can't do with the
Quatech.
/*************************/
Here are some copies of old postings that will give you some good info.
Not many people stock PCMCIA cards... but there are a number of
sources in the Silicon Valley:
Attached is some info from K2TW if you want to purchase a dual card. I
have other sources, but this source has a cheaper price for the same unit.
For a single serial port, try DATACOMM Warehouse 800-328-2261, for the
Fujitsu card at $79.95 (I have one)
Only thing to watch out for on the dual cards is the software (and true for
new single
port cards too). Since the
dual cards came out recently, the software development may be focused on
Win 95. If you are DOS based, it may be a problem. I noticed a few cards
that said they had DOS software if you asked. Others only mentioned that
they were Win 95.
Kenny
Made a few calls to see who has what in the way of a 2-port laptop
serial card. I settled on a 2-port Silicom (that's not a typo) unit p/n
SLS2S-H from A+ Computing (1-800-878-1354) for $175. Other prices ranged
from 179 for a one-port board to 249 for a 2-port board.
They confirmed that the ports can be assigned IRQ 3-7 and 9-12 so it
should work ok with CT. Once I get it I'll provide some info on how it
works.
Thanks to KH7U for the lead which pointed me to these folks.
73 de Tom K2TW tjwall@worldnet.att.net
--------------------
As for the Socket Serial I/O card, I may have ordered the wrong model.
They have a "ruggedized Serial I/O card" (SLO707-078) that definitely does
support DOS (and OS/2 as well), so I'm going to change my order. The
ruggedized model has a much sturdier dustproof external connector than a
typical PC Card.
------------------------------
/*******************************************/
Socket Communications makes serial port PCMCIA cards.
They have three models.
1. Serial I/O PCCARD with 16550
2. Ruggedized Serial PCCard with 16550
3. Dual Serial PCCard with two 16550's.
Not sure where you can get them, their number is 510-744-2700 or
www.socketcom.com
/***************************************/
Socket Communications makes an add on serial card that works quite nicely.
I got mine about two years ago. Computer Discount Warehouse (CDW) carries
it, but I got mine from another catalog. CDW is in Vernon Hills, Illinois.
Their number is 800-295-4239.
/***************************************/
Hope that this helps. I have decided on the Silicom, 2-port card. It's
$175. from A+ Computing.
73 - John, W4AU
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From vr2bg@harts.org.hk Wed Dec 17 01:17:45 1997
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR97BrettGraham)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 01:17:45 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] POST U E S
Message-ID: <3.0.2.16.19971217011745.305778a6@pop.asiaonline.net>
After the 10m contest, I decided I'd attempt to add some names to my
TRMASTER.DTA file. Rather than do this call by call with POST, I figured
I'd be better off to edit TRMASTER.ASC, because as I paged through it, I'd
stumble across calls that I knew names for but probably wouldn't be calls
I'd specifically try to add names to.
So, I POST U E S'd TRMASTER.DTA, then POST U E A'd it & went off to edit
the .ASC file.
I now have a 250-odd kB .ASC file with blocks of alphabetized data, not a
file that's in alphabetical order from end to end. This wouldn't be a
problem, if it weren't for everything else I have that can sort chokes on a
file so long.
Perhaps my expectation of alphabetical order is wrong, or is this normal?
73, VR97BrettGraham
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From vr2bg@harts.org.hk Wed Dec 17 04:29:53 1997
From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR97BrettGraham)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 04:29:53 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] Re: POST U E S
Message-ID: <3.0.2.16.19971217042953.29977f56@pop.asiaonline.net>
Resolution to POST U E S generating a TRMASTER.DTA file that POST U E A's
into a file that is not sorted alphabetically from start to finish is to
sort it with QSORT - a utility that seems to have been written because the
SORT that comes with DOS doesn't like big files. Thanks to K5TR for the help!
73, VR97BrettGraham
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From swca@ionet.net Wed Dec 17 22:52:22 1997
From: swca@ionet.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:52:22 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19971213135309.00679390@pophost.micron.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971217165222.00699298@ionet.net>
>How about a fine tune version of the page-up
>and down that would move it 1 wpm. Could this be done with
>a shift-page-up or down?
Now I think that is too many keys! We all differ so...!
Mark, N5OT
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From swca@ionet.net Wed Dec 17 22:54:48 1997
From: swca@ionet.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:54:48 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
In-Reply-To: <199712140107.RAA28309@user1.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971217165448.0069590c@ionet.net>
>By putting messages like SPPED+ in your CQ EXCHANGE and SPEED25 in
>your CQ MESSAGE, you should be able to get the "increasing speed"
>effect mentioned earlier.
Brilliant as usual, Herr Director. Thanks Tree.
Mark, N5OT
P.S. Does that say SPPED??
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From kk7a@micron.net Thu Dec 18 03:49:18 1997
From: kk7a@micron.net (Jim - KK7A)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:49:18 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
Message-ID: <199712172049180850.0018C36F@relay.micron.net>
Just thought I would pass along a piece of mail from a person who
shall remain anonymous. It made me laugh so hard I almost fell
out of my chair! Here it is:
-----------------------
Let's say that you are calling CQ and someone actually comes back
to you. You get so scared that you can't copy even 1 wpm! So you
hit alt-p (panic) and it randomly spins the VFO knob to another part
of the band!
Mr. CW
--------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Larson - KK7A - Boise, Idaho <><
http://netnow.micron.net/~kk7a
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From no6x@inreach.com Thu Dec 18 04:54:15 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 04:54:15 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] Interesting CW Technique
In-Reply-To: <199712172049180850.0018C36F@relay.micron.net>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971218045415.006ab078@inreach.com>
>Let's say that you are calling CQ and someone actually comes back
>to you. You get so scared that you can't copy even 1 wpm! So you
>hit alt-p (panic) and it randomly spins the VFO knob to another part
>of the band!
>
>Mr. CW
>
Sounds like when I worked VK0IR on 40 CW was so excited could not send 5nn
to save my butt!!
Mike...NO6X
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Jim Larson - KK7A - Boise, Idaho <><
>http://netnow.micron.net/~kk7a
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From n6tr@teleport.com Thu Dec 18 15:17:16 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:17:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
Message-ID: <199712181517.HAA22363@user1.teleport.com>
I just got this:
> From contest@arrl.org Thu Dec 18 07:05:43 1997
> From: Contest
> Subject: RE: W5WMU ARRL SS CW Log
> To: "'Tree N6TR'"
>
>
> I received your CW Sweepstakes entry, but your file is not in
> the correct file format.
Obviously, there will be more to report later.
Tree
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From blckhole@ripco.com Thu Dec 18 19:16:24 1997
From: blckhole@ripco.com (Keith Morehouse)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:16:24 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
References: <199712181517.HAA22363@user1.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <34997688.507E38AB@ripco.com>
Tree N6TR wrote:
> >
> > I received your CW Sweepstakes entry, but your file is not in
> > the correct file format.
I don't know if it's at the heart of YOUR problem, but, those who use
Netscape 4.0's emailer need to keep in mind that the default method of
sending attachments is in MIME format. Evidently, ARRL has a problem
decoding MIME messages.
When sending logs to ARRL using Netscape 4.0, be sure to check the
options box that says "Uuencode instead of MIME for attachments". I
think that will solve the problem.
---------------------------###-----------------------------
PROBE ELECTRONICS 100 Higgins Road, Park Ridge IL 60068 USA
Keith J. Morehouse / W9RM / Society of Midwest Contesters
847-696-2828 FAX: 847-698-2045 e-mail: blckhole@ripco.com
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From n6tr@teleport.com Thu Dec 18 21:22:36 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:22:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Log formats
Message-ID: <199712182122.NAA28252@user2.teleport.com>
I spoke to Bev at the ARRL and was unable to find out specifically
what the problem is with the formats (other than not showing the
transmitted precedence check and section for each QSO which I have
a hard time believing is really a problem).
Billy has a message to call me (he is out ill today and maybe
tomorrow). I expect one of two things to happen:
1. They will accept the logs.
2. There will be a new version of POST and you can re-submit the
logs.
I am VERY frustrated that this is being handled by rejecting
individual logs instead of working with me to solve any issues.
I worked with the ARRL when I generated the conversion routine
7 years ago and have not been made aware of any problems. In the
past, when Billy asked me to change the section abbreviations for
some of the sections, I promptly responded. I also talked to him
just this year to make sure there weren't any problems and nothing
was brought up.
I will update the list when I know more.
Tree N6TR
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From n4zr@contesting.com Thu Dec 18 21:21:15 1997
From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:21:15 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
In-Reply-To: <34997688.507E38AB@ripco.com>
References: <199712181517.HAA22363@user1.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971218162115.007eac50@popd.ix.netcom.com>
At 01:16 PM 12/18/97 -0600, Keith Morehouse wrote:
>Tree N6TR wrote:
>> >
>> > I received your CW Sweepstakes entry, but your file is not in
>> > the correct file format.
>
>I don't know if it's at the heart of YOUR problem, but, those who use
>Netscape 4.0's emailer need to keep in mind that the default method of
>sending attachments is in MIME format. Evidently, ARRL has a problem
>decoding MIME messages.
I don't think so -- I just got an ack this morning from ARRL for a TR
POST-produced SS log (the ARRL format), sent to them as a MIME attachment
from Eudora 3.0.
73,
Pete N4ZR
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From n9ssg@pobox.com Thu Dec 18 20:45:05 1997
From: n9ssg@pobox.com (David Yanke)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:45:05 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971218162115.007eac50@popd.ix.netcom.com>
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Message-ID: <199712182146.PAA26386@mail.xnet.com>
Gather 'round and here what Pete Smith had to say at 16:21 on 18 Dec 97
> >Netscape 4.0's emailer need to keep in mind that the default method of
> >sending attachments is in MIME format. Evidently, ARRL has a problem
> >decoding MIME messages.
>
> I don't think so -- I just got an ack this morning from ARRL for a
> TR POST-produced SS log (the ARRL format), sent to them as a MIME
> attachment from Eudora 3.0. 73,
I Pegasus there is a configuration that is "Allow 8 bit MIME
Encoding". Is it possible that you somehow have MIME enabled and are
not aware of it in Eudora?
I wonder, with the popularity of programs like Netscape as well as
many other "internal" email programs people use, along with a the
general "newness" of the Internet to many, why the ARRL just hasn't
figured out a way to accept these?
__________________________________________
Avoid criticism -- say, do and be nothing.
Dave Yanke - N9SSG
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From wday@cq.net Thu Dec 18 22:19:22 1997
From: wday@cq.net (Wayne Day)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:19:22 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] Log formats
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971218221922.0070e888@mailhost.cq.net>
At 01:22 PM 12/18/97 -0800, Tree wrote:
>
>I spoke to Bev at the ARRL and was unable to find out specifically
>what the problem is with the formats (other than not showing the
>transmitted precedence check and section for each QSO which I have
>a hard time believing is really a problem).
I know we've talked about this before, but with the new General Rules
for the ARRL contests being released in QST, I'm still wondering why
they keep rule 4.6 (All QSO data must appear in each line, aligned
by columns, and must include... 4.6.6. complete exchange sent) the
way it is if they aren't going to require it.
73 Wayne N5WD
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From geoiii@bga.com Thu Dec 18 22:30:56 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:30:56 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Log formats
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971218221922.0070e888@mailhost.cq.net> from "Wayne Day" at Dec 18, 97 10:19:22 pm
Message-ID: <199712182230.QAA20314@zoom.bga.com>
>>I spoke to Bev at the ARRL and was unable to find out specifically
>>what the problem is with the formats (other than not showing the
>>transmitted precedence check and section for each QSO which I have
>>a hard time believing is really a problem).
>
>I know we've talked about this before, but with the new General Rules
>for the ARRL contests being released in QST, I'm still wondering why
>they keep rule 4.6 (All QSO data must appear in each line, aligned
>by columns, and must include... 4.6.6. complete exchange sent) the
>way it is if they aren't going to require it.
>
I think that once Tree gets to talk to Billy Lunt at the ARRL
we will know what they really want.
In the past they have accepted logs (for 6 or more years) in
the format that they have been rejecting lately. It appears
that they are doing this based on the rule above.
Of course for a contest like the SS it becomes very hard
to put all of the sent data on the same line with everything
else and still keep the line of data under 80 cols.
I am sure Tree will update us when we sort out things
with the ARRL. If anyone is worried about missing log
deadlines or such - it should not be a problem.
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From ni2p@panix.com Thu Dec 18 23:15:20 1997
From: ni2p@panix.com (Leon Kanopka)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:15:20 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971218162115.007eac50@popd.ix.netcom.com>
References: <34997688.507E38AB@ripco.com>
Message-ID: <199712182315.SAA05209@mail2.panix.com>
My log was rejected by the ARRL because it was 64 bit MIME encoded.
I do not know why it was, as I told Pegasus not to encode it. I sent
it a second time and the same thing happened. The third time I know
I sent it as ASCII, and I received an acknowledgment saying the log
was accepted. It seems that you have to watch the encoding, or they
will bounce your log.
I am still trying to figure out the "A paper summary sheet is
required of all logs, either an official ARRL summary sheet or a
close facsimile with a signed contest participation disclaimer" part
of the rules. How do you send a signed summary sheet in ASCII
format? I think the ARRL has to get its rules in order.
Leon
On 18 Dec 97 at 16:21, Pete Smith wrote:
> I don't think so -- I just got an ack this morning from ARRL for a
> TR POST-produced SS log (the ARRL format), sent to them as a MIME
> attachment from Eudora 3.0. 73,
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From wday@cq.net Thu Dec 18 23:24:49 1997
From: wday@cq.net (Wayne Day)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:24:49 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
In-Reply-To: <199712182315.SAA05209@mail2.panix.com>
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At 06:15 PM 12/18/97 -0500, Leon Kanopka"
>I am still trying to figure out the "A paper summary sheet is
>required of all logs, either an official ARRL summary sheet or a
>close facsimile with a signed contest participation disclaimer" part
>of the rules. How do you send a signed summary sheet in ASCII
>format? I think the ARRL has to get its rules in order.
Rule 4.9 is the one that sez you must include a summary sheet, but then
rule 4.9.1 says:
"Electronic entries should include a summary file instead of a paper
summary sheet. (The signature is not necessary on an
electronic summary sheet (see Rule 2))."
Thus, it's not a problem.
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From n6tr@teleport.com Thu Dec 18 23:37:48 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:37:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
Message-ID: <199712182337.PAA16347@user2.teleport.com>
> My log was rejected by the ARRL because it was 64 bit MIME encoded.
> I do not know why it was, as I told Pegasus not to encode it. I sent
> it a second time and the same thing happened. The third time I know
> I sent it as ASCII, and I received an acknowledgment saying the log
> was accepted. It seems that you have to watch the encoding, or they
> will bounce your log.
Yes - sending in ASCII is something that can be hard to do depending
on which program you are using. It is one of those basic skills that
gets harder to do as mail programs get more intelligent.
This is not why my log was rejected however. It was sent as ASCII
and was still ASCII when they "returned" my log. I got a chuckle
when Bev told me she didn't have my log anymore because she returned
it to me.
> I am still trying to figure out the "A paper summary sheet is
> required of all logs, either an official ARRL summary sheet or a
> close facsimile with a signed contest participation disclaimer" part
> of the rules. How do you send a signed summary sheet in ASCII
> format? I think the ARRL has to get its rules in order.
Wanna hear something funny?? When the Stew Perry results came out,
I got a note from several stations who sent in logs, but the score
didn't make it. One of them was from K1ZZ.
Tree
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From aa4ga@contesting.com Fri Dec 19 02:05:53 1997
From: aa4ga@contesting.com (Lee Hiers, AA4GA)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 02:05:53 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] Log formats
Message-ID: <199712190204.VAA22230@dayton.akorn.net>
On 18 Dec 97, Tree N6TR wrote:
> I spoke to Bev at the ARRL and was unable to find out specifically
> what the problem is with the formats (other than not showing the
> transmitted precedence check and section for each QSO which I have
> a hard time believing is really a problem).
As I recall, the official ARRL paper logs don't even have a place for
precendence, check, and section for each QSO, it's on the top of each
page...of course, it _has_ been a long time since I looked at one!
I believe I sent my SS log with a separate summary sheet all zipped
together. Probably sent it uuencoded - I use Pegasus and accepted
the default endcoding.
I got back the following message:
Date sent: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:12:00 -0500
From: Contest
Subject: RE: AA4GA CW SS entry
To: aa4ga
This acknowledges receipt of your
1997 ARRL CW November Sweepstakes entry.
73,
ARRL Contest Branch
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From Butchie_T@compuserve.com Fri Dec 19 02:57:21 1997
From: Butchie_T@compuserve.com (Allen Turner)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:57:21 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL Logs ???
Message-ID: <199712182158_MC2-2C85-C45F@compuserve.com>
Hey folks,
How long does it take for the ARRL to confirm or reject :-( a log when
you e-mail it to them. I sent my 10 Mtr log to them on Sunday the 14th and
have yet to "hear" from them. ????
Butch Turner - KA0WWT
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From no6x@inreach.com Fri Dec 19 03:25:50 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 03:25:50 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL Logs ???
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>I sent my 10 Mtr log to them on Sunday the 14th and
>have yet to "hear" from them. ????
I sent my SS Phone log in on November 23, and finally got an
acknowledgement today, allthough it did say that it was not in the right
format, so now I wait for the cure I guess, in the meantime, I did zip the
2 files they want together and tried that, will see what comes of it.
HMMMMM (said the PL board)
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From kg5u@hal-pc.org Fri Dec 19 06:16:54 1997
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L. Martin)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:16:54 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
Message-ID: <01bd0c45$b42bfba0$LocalHost@dale>
Maybe it would be better if they simply asked (required) us to FTP them.
Wouldn't that take care of differences in systems and applications? FTP is
FTP, isn't it?
I have attached files and sent them to ARRL with no problems (except that I
left off my exchange in the summary sheet and Bev sent me a note asking for
it--otherwise, she accepted my log completely). I use Microsoft's e-mailer
that comes with the Internet Explorer 4.0 download....both work super!!
73,
Dale, kg5u
-----Original Message-----
From: David Yanke
To: Keith Morehouse ; TRLog mail list
; Pete Smith
Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 15:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
Gather 'round and here what Pete Smith had to say at 16:21 on 18 Dec 97
> >Netscape 4.0's emailer need to keep in mind that the default method of
> >sending attachments is in MIME format. Evidently, ARRL has a problem
> >decoding MIME messages.
>
> I don't think so -- I just got an ack this morning from ARRL for a
> TR POST-produced SS log (the ARRL format), sent to them as a MIME
> attachment from Eudora 3.0. 73,
I Pegasus there is a configuration that is "Allow 8 bit MIME
Encoding". Is it possible that you somehow have MIME enabled and are
not aware of it in Eudora?
I wonder, with the popularity of programs like Netscape as well as
many other "internal" email programs people use, along with a the
general "newness" of the Internet to many, why the ARRL just hasn't
figured out a way to accept these?
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From jfunk@adams.net Fri Dec 19 10:34:03 1997
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:34:03 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
Message-ID: <199712191034.EAA07798@golden.adams.net>
My clunky Eudora-Lite puts stuff in MIME attachments as well. In the past,
this hasn't bothered ARRL. So far this year, I haven't gotten ANY
confirmations, with or without caveat....
73, Jim N9JF
>Tree N6TR wrote:
>> >
>> > I received your CW Sweepstakes entry, but your file is not in
>> > the correct file format.
>
>I don't know if it's at the heart of YOUR problem, but, those who use
>Netscape 4.0's emailer need to keep in mind that the default method of
>sending attachments is in MIME format. Evidently, ARRL has a problem
>decoding MIME messages.
>
>When sending logs to ARRL using Netscape 4.0, be sure to check the
>options box that says "Uuencode instead of MIME for attachments". I
>think that will solve the problem.
>
>---------------------------###-----------------------------
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From gbaron@sparc.isl.net Fri Dec 19 11:26:45 1997
From: gbaron@sparc.isl.net (Gilbert Baron)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:26:45 GMT
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
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>On Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:34:03 -0600 (CST), you wrote:
>My clunky Eudora-Lite puts stuff in MIME attachments as well. In the past,
>this hasn't bothered ARRL. So far this year, I haven't gotten ANY
>confirmations, with or without caveat....
>
I am extremely skeptical that mime has anything to do with the
problem. I would be extremely surprised if the software on the other
end does not support it and if it did not then you would probably be
told so. I am quite sure it has to do with the file that was sent.
Somehow it got messed up on the sending end. Mine have always gone
with no problem.
>73, Jim N9JF
>
>>Tree N6TR wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I received your CW Sweepstakes entry, but your file is not in
>>> > the correct file format.
>>
>>I don't know if it's at the heart of YOUR problem, but, those who use
>>Netscape 4.0's emailer need to keep in mind that the default method of
>>sending attachments is in MIME format. Evidently, ARRL has a problem
>>decoding MIME messages.
>>
>>When sending logs to ARRL using Netscape 4.0, be sure to check the
>>options box that says "Uuencode instead of MIME for attachments". I
>>think that will solve the problem.
>>
>>---------------------------###-----------------------------
>>PROBE ELECTRONICS 100 Higgins Road, Park Ridge IL 60068 USA
>>Keith J. Morehouse / W9RM / Society of Midwest Contesters
>>847-696-2828 FAX: 847-698-2045 e-mail: blckhole@ripco.com
>>---------------------------###-----------------------------
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From wink@rpa.net Fri Dec 19 13:04:41 1997
From: wink@rpa.net (Wink)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:04:41 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Log formats
Message-ID: <349A70E9.4EBE@rpa.net>
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--------------2CED25DA39BB
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This is a copy of a note I fired out to Newington the other day.
Strangely enough, a day later I got an e-mail stating that they accepted
my SS-cw log.
Not to sound bitter, (but in all reality I am) I think we're about a
step away from the ARRL doing to it's contest program the same thing
it's doing to DXCC, charging us for being involved in their contest!
That will be the day that I work the contests that are one of the high
points of amateur radio for me and only submit entries to the CQ and
other independent contest sponsors.
Wink wrote:
>
> I have sent both my SS CW log and my 160 Meter contest log to this
> address. I've heard nothing back from you whether you got them or not.
> I adhered to your suggested format and followed all the rules as I saw
> them.
>
> Are you actually getting my logs? Have I wasted my time using this
> venue with the ARRL? This system works very well with other contest
> sponsors. If this is not going to work I'll go back to sending you
> reams of paper.
>
> Gary Winkelman N2UM
--------------2CED25DA39BB
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID: <34967E84.4D6C@rpa.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:13:40 -0500
From: Wink
Reply-To: wink@rpa.net
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: contest@arrl.org
Subject: E-mail contest entries
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have sent both my SS CW log and my 160 Meter contest log to this
address. I've heard nothing back from you whether you got them or not.
I adhered to your suggested format and followed all the rules as I saw
them.
Are you actually getting my logs? Have I wasted my time using this
venue with the ARRL? This system works very well with other contest
sponsors. If this is not going to work I'll go back to sending you
reams of paper.
Gary Winkelman N2UM
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From swca@ionet.net Fri Dec 19 13:40:59 1997
From: swca@ionet.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 07:40:59 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19971219084516.3e7f1af0@ionet.net>
Wayne - N5WD, wrote:
>Rule 4.9 is the one that sez you must include a summary sheet
>rule 4.9.1 says: The signature is not necessary on an
> electronic summary sheet
>Thus, it's not a problem.
I think all we can say is that it MAY not be a problem, depending on which
contradictions the ARRL is ignoring and which rules they have decided to
enforce - which are answers we don't know yet, but are still learning.
Mark, N5OT
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From no6x@inreach.com Fri Dec 19 15:00:04 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:00:04 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL Acceptance???
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971219150004.006996ec@inreach.com>
Well I got the same message as many got, said it was not in the correct
format, so I decided I would zip the 2 together and send them to the arrl
like that.
Now I get a message back that says we allready have your entry!!!!!!
Oh boy, guess I am going to have to call them on the phone and see what is
up?
At least they could have sent details???
Oh well,
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From no6x@inreach.com Fri Dec 19 15:16:43 1997
From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:16:43 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] THEY TOOK IT!!!!
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971219151643.006b9f10@inreach.com>
Well I just got off of the phone with Bev at the ARRL they have decided
to accept the logs from TRLog even though the sent exchange is not actually
in the log, but it is in the summary sheet. At least that is what she told
me.
She said that when she first looked at it, and did not see it she
automatically returned it. Then they decided to accept it, many of you may
have gotten the same message as I if you try to resend it. It said "thank
You but we allready have your entry"
It sure would have been nice if they would have just sent a letter that
said "we reviewed it an we will take it after all.
Amazing how things change when you can speak with someone who knows what is
going on!
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From ae2t@bigfoot.com Fri Dec 19 15:21:45 1997
From: ae2t@bigfoot.com (Al Gritzmacher)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:21:45 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971219152145.008ae248@localnet.com>
At 12:16 AM 12/19/97 -0600, Dale, kg5u wrote:
>Maybe it would be better if they simply asked (required) us to FTP them.
>Wouldn't that take care of differences in systems and applications? FTP is
>FTP, isn't it?
>
No, you still have a choice of sending it as ASCII or Binary in FTP. Chances
are whatever 'flavor' we sent would be the opposite of what they want!
>I have attached files and sent them to ARRL with no problems (except that I
>left off my exchange in the summary sheet and Bev sent me a note asking for
>it--otherwise, she accepted my log completely). I use Microsoft's e-mailer
>that comes with the Internet Explorer 4.0 download....both work super!!
>
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From geoiii@bga.com Fri Dec 19 15:23:29 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:23:29 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] ARRL Acceptance???
In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19971219150004.006996ec@inreach.com> from "Mike" at Dec 19, 97 03:00:04 pm
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Mike writes:
>At least they could have sent details???
>Oh well,
Remember that they get ALOT of logs - I sure am glad
that I don't have to look at the email address
contest@arrl.org - with logs and questions and everything
else all mixed together. Yikes.
I think yesterday Bev said something about 800 logs or
messages or whatever.
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From jfunk@adams.net Fri Dec 19 16:37:05 1997
From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:37:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
Message-ID: <199712191637.KAA00247@golden.adams.net>
After a couple of weeks, I'm spooked. Resent the SS and 160 logs to ARRL.
Will keep y'all informed. MIME attachments, Eudora Lite, TR 6.15 Post ARRL
formatted.
73, Jim N9JF
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From w7ct@juno.com Fri Dec 19 17:07:17 1997
From: w7ct@juno.com (James B Lawrence)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:07:17 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
References: <199712191637.KAA00247@golden.adams.net>
Message-ID: <19971219.100718.9430.0.W7CT@juno.com>
I have no faith in e-mailing logs to the ARRL or their ability to receive
them correctly. I have also read the instructions they have on there web
pages. Their in instructions are not specific enough for me. The
instructions are specific enough for me to understand they want an ascii
file in their format. I am not a software expert nor do I claim any
advanced knowledge of the internet. But, I do know that even if you
attempt to send the e-mail in ascii format it will encoded, compressed,
etc., etc.
Until the ARRL gets there act together they get my logs on paper.
73
Jim W7CT
On Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:37:05 -0600 (CST) jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
writes:
>After a couple of weeks, I'm spooked. Resent the SS and 160 logs to
>ARRL.
>Will keep y'all informed. MIME attachments, Eudora Lite, TR 6.15 Post
>ARRL
>formatted.
>
>73, Jim N9JF
>
>
>
>
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From gbaron@sparc.isl.net Fri Dec 19 18:13:16 1997
From: gbaron@sparc.isl.net (Gilbert Baron)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:13:16 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
References: <199712191637.KAA00247@golden.adams.net> <19971219.100718.9430.0.W7CT@juno.com>
Message-ID: <349AB93C.167E@sparc.isl.net>
James B Lawrence wrote:
>
> I have no faith in e-mailing logs to the ARRL or their ability to receive
> them correctly. I have also read the instructions they have on there web
> pages. Their in instructions are not specific enough for me. The
> instructions are specific enough for me to understand they want an ascii
> file in their format. I am not a software expert nor do I claim any
> advanced knowledge of the internet. But, I do know that even if you
> attempt to send the e-mail in ascii format it will encoded, compressed,
> etc., etc.
Not true, if you send text it will not be encoded, that would be a waste
and except in the worst programs it is not done. Furthermore, if you
want to be certain it is ascii and not encoded, then send it as part of
the message text, not as an attachment.
If you do send it encoded the the decode will recover it and it will
still be an ascii file.
The problem lies elswhere.
>
> Until the ARRL gets there act together they get my logs on paper.
>
> 73
>
> Jim W7CT
>
> On Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:37:05 -0600 (CST) jfunk@adams.net (jim funk)
> writes:
> >After a couple of weeks, I'm spooked. Resent the SS and 160 logs to
> >ARRL.
> >Will keep y'all informed. MIME attachments, Eudora Lite, TR 6.15 Post
> >ARRL
> >formatted.
> >
> >73, Jim N9JF
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From n6tr@teleport.com Fri Dec 19 18:58:04 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:58:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] The word from the ARRL
Message-ID: <199712191858.KAA29750@user2.teleport.com>
I just spoke with KR1R about the mess.
His response is that one of the staff people there didn't understand
what they could and could not accept. The format from POST's
routine is fine - no issues.
Now for the messy part... all logs that were previously rejected
because of this issue are now accepted (my two logs are okay).
However, there will not be any messages sent out telling you
this.
So, you might not know if your log was accepted or not if you got
a rejection notice... You have three choices:
1. Do nothing and take your chances.
2. Call Billy and ask if you log is in the computer (860) 594-0252.
3. Wait until the high claimed scores are posted on the web.
Billy says if you find your score missing in the high claimed scores,
there will be time to resolve the situation.
I told Billy once again that if there were any changes I need to
make, that I would do them and he assured me there were no issues
I needed to address at this time.
Tree
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From CF McGarvey"
I hope the issues and ideas reletive to the ARRL contest format and the CW speed issues are resolved.
The easiest solution is not to submit a log for ANY contest. And, send cw slower - Slower+more participants=
MORE FUN (S+MP)=NF
Keep the flames - I'm not interested Hi.
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From Jack Trampler"
Using MS Internet Explorer 4.0 with the Outlook Express mail program, I sent
two unzipped file attachments (just a straight forward file attachment), one
being the log and the other being the summary sheet. My "send mail" format
option is set to: "MIME, Encode Text Using: NONE" (options being None,
Quoted Printable, and Base64). I received the following message a few days
later.
>This acknowledges receipt of your 1997 ARRL CW November Sweepstakes
>entry.
>73,
>Bev Fernandez, N1NAV
>Assistant Contest Manager
>n1nav@arrl.org
73,
Jack - N2JT
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From lenrev@wwa.com Sat Dec 20 22:40:15 1997
From: lenrev@wwa.com (Len Revelle)
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 16:40:15 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Log formats
References: <199712182122.NAA28252@user2.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <349C494F.FC37E0AF@wwa.com>
Tree,
I dunno that specifically showing the transmitted exchange is the
problem either. After my original CW log was rejected I resubmitted
after adding the transmitted exchange to each Q with a word processor
and it was accepted. I submitted my PHONE log with the transmitted
exchange only on the summary sheet and that was accepted.
What ever the cause for rejection, I hope Billy will 'splain it to us.
Tree N6TR wrote:
>
> I spoke to Bev at the ARRL and was unable to find out specifically
> what the problem is with the formats (other than not showing the
> transmitted precedence check and section for each QSO which I have
> a hard time believing is really a problem).
>
> Billy has a message to call me (he is out ill today and maybe
> tomorrow). I expect one of two things to happen:
>
> 1. They will accept the logs.
> 2. There will be a new version of POST and you can re-submit the
> logs.
>
> I am VERY frustrated that this is being handled by rejecting
> individual logs instead of working with me to solve any issues.
> I worked with the ARRL when I generated the conversion routine
> 7 years ago and have not been made aware of any problems. In the
> past, when Billy asked me to change the section abbreviations for
> some of the sections, I promptly responded. I also talked to him
> just this year to make sure there weren't any problems and nothing
> was brought up.
>
> I will update the list when I know more.
>
> Tree N6TR
> tree@contesting.com
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From ni2p@panix.com Fri Dec 19 23:40:42 1997
From: ni2p@panix.com (Leon Kanopka)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:40:42 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19971219152145.008ae248@localnet.com>
Message-ID: <199712192340.SAA09436@mail2.panix.com>
On 19 Dec 97 at 10:21, Al Gritzmacher wrote:
> No, you still have a choice of sending it as ASCII or Binary in FTP.
> Chances are whatever 'flavor' we sent would be the opposite of what
> they want!
ASCII files FTPed as binary type will still be ASCII. Binary files
FTPed as ASCII will be corrupted, so this should not be a concern
with ASCII logs.
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From wtill@bordercity.com Sat Dec 20 05:11:01 1997
From: wtill@bordercity.com (William Till)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:11:01 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Hmmmmm
Message-ID: <19971220052004338.AAC133@pm109.bordercity.com>
All this leads one to the unfortunate conclusion that
ARRL may not yet have assembled their dung.
A situation that unfortunately happens a bit too often.
The mass confusion may be an incentive for them to
examine their automated (and manual) procedures.
One can only hope that they will apply corrective
measures.
73 from a non-member,
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From Ve3bmv@aol.com Sat Dec 20 19:57:31 1997
From: Ve3bmv@aol.com (Ve3bmv)
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:57:31 EST
Subject: [TRLog] SO-SB TR antenna switching
Message-ID: <18d5889c.349c2330@aol.com>
Hi Trey,
getting closer to rigging up my setup for single op - single band (applicable
to M/M, etc.) using two radios (second receiver) - two ears. For single band
operation the External relay band output lines are not utilized. I (and other
single banders) would like to see the option of defining those lines for (RX)
antenna switching. I would leave bit 0 for DVK, but use bit 1, 2, 3 for
antenna switching (gives us 8 options for relay controlled antenna switch).
>From program it would be desirable to have option of preprogrammed scan when
rig switches to receive (scan through preselected beverages i.e. 2,4,8 with
programmable length of time on each individual preselection). Also option of
manually selecting the antennas through the numeric keypad. (8 - N, 9 - NE, 6
- E, etc.) Scan would be overriden by manual action via num. keypad. We could
use #5 to toggle between manual/scan. (In case of never ending pileup of
Euroes.)
Make it compatible with two radios switching, each radio could have 8 banks of
antennas (preprogrammable separately.)
This will be very usefull for single band contests and will let us keep our
hands on the keyboard instead of unscrewing our wrists with antenna switch
after each CQ/QSO.
Hope you will consider this request/suggestion and put TR miles ahead of other
programs.
73, MX, HNY
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From swca@ionet.net Sun Dec 21 00:43:18 1997
From: swca@ionet.net (Mark Beckwith)
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:43:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] SO-SB TR antenna switching
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19971220194737.295f7556@ionet.net>
Yuri said:
>Hope you will consider this request/suggestion and put TR miles ahead of other
>programs.
Make that MORE miles ahead.
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From oh2mm@nettilinja.fi Sat Dec 20 23:17:04 1997
From: oh2mm@nettilinja.fi (Ville Hiilesmaa)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 01:17:04 +0200
Subject: [TRLog] How to build up mults & points after a KA5WSS transformation?
Message-ID: <349C51EF.2C08F014@nettilinja.fi>
Transforming CT log into TR format using KA5WSS's LogConv.exe works OK
but the resulting log has no mults and no points.
What's the command in TR to build up the mults and points ?
(it can be done by POST but it asks to confirm every mult and
POST doesn't allocate points to Qs at all ?)
73, Ville, OH2MM
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From kc5ajx@hotmail.com Sun Dec 21 03:16:38 1997
From: kc5ajx@hotmail.com (Rick Bullon)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 03:16:38 GMT
Subject: [TRLog] Scoring contests with trlog
Message-ID: <19971221031640.27044.qmail@hotmail.com>
Hello all
I'm new to the reflector but I have a question about using Trlog to
score my contest logs.
I have to score my loggs after the contest because I don't have a
computer in the shack yet ( heard computer prices are fixing to really
drop so I'm waiting for that. report said prices should drop 40 to 50 %
ie a $1000.00 computewr will cost arround $500 to $600 dollars after the
price drop)
The problem I have is when I go to the post function oin Trlog it
throws out have my QSO's ie in the CQWW contest I had 69 contacts (I'm a
very little gun) but when I tried to score with trlog it only scored 39
contacts. All the contacts were valid it seems to have just stopped at
39 contacts. I had to finsh the scoring by hand. It did give the points
for all the contacts at first and all the multi's but it didn't figure
it in the final score.
I'm using the public domain version so I fell tha t I should bother
Tree or George with this problem. Anyone have any ideas what I'm doing
wrong?
73
Rick
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From geoiii@bga.com Sun Dec 21 04:51:55 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:51:55 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] How to build up mults & points after a KA5WSS transformation
In-Reply-To: <349C51EF.2C08F014@nettilinja.fi> from "Ville Hiilesmaa" at Dec 21, 97 01:17:04 am
Message-ID: <199712210451.WAA15182@zoom.bga.com>
Ville Hiilesmaa writes:
>
>Transforming CT log into TR format using KA5WSS's LogConv.exe works OK
>but the resulting log has no mults and no points.
>
>What's the command in TR to build up the mults and points ?
Copy your log to a file name other than LOG.DAT - then
setup AUTO DUPE ENABLE CQ = FALSE
If on CW then put the speed up to 99 wpm, and CW tone set to 0.
Then type TR READ [filename]
Where filename is the name of file you changed your log.dat too.
You can speed the reading up by:
UPDATE RESTART.BIN = FALSE
POSSIBLE CALLS = NONE
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From geoiii@bga.com Sun Dec 21 04:53:48 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:53:48 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Scoring contests with trlog
In-Reply-To: <19971221031640.27044.qmail@hotmail.com> from "Rick Bullon" at Dec 21, 97 03:16:38 am
Message-ID: <199712210453.WAA15371@zoom.bga.com>
Rick Bullon writes:
> The problem I have is when I go to the post function oin Trlog it
>throws out have my QSO's ie in the CQWW contest I had 69 contacts (I'm a
>very little gun) but when I tried to score with trlog it only scored 39
>contacts. All the contacts were valid it seems to have just stopped at
>39 contacts. I had to finsh the scoring by hand. It did give the points
>for all the contacts at first and all the multi's but it didn't figure
>it in the final score.
When you say it throws out your QSOs - I am not sure
I understand. Are they marked as dupes?
If you email your log to me I will be glad to look at it
and see how I can help.
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From becker@SPRINTMAIL.COM Mon Dec 22 04:42:05 1997
From: becker@SPRINTMAIL.COM (Tony and Celia Becker)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 21:42:05 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] PTT and QSK
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971215225228.00d5dbe8@pop.a001.sprintmail.com>
References: <199712150612.WAA24588@user1.teleport.com>
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971221214205.01225258@pop.a001.sprintmail.com>
Hi All!
Tree reminds me, correctly, that the PADDLE PTT HOLD COUNT function only
affects the PTT when the paddle is used to generate the CW. It does not
affect the PTT active time when generating automatic CW.
Nontheless, I still pine for full QSK. (Old traffic handler habits die hard).
73
AE0M, Tony Becker - becker@sprintmail.com - Silicon Valley, USA
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From scott@purdue.edu Mon Dec 22 13:38:51 1997
From: scott@purdue.edu (Scott A. Stembaugh)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 08:38:51 EST
Subject: [TRLog] Opto-isolater circuits
In-Reply-To: <3495DA27.1D1B@jps.net>
Message-ID: <349e6da16d61004@scribe.cc.purdue.edu>
Not too long ago someone posted the whereabouts of an opto-isolator
keying circuit. Now that I will have some time I can't find it.
Could that kind person please send me the URL?
Thanks,
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From k1ky@bellsouth.net Mon Dec 22 16:20:38 1997
From: k1ky@bellsouth.net (Tom Delker)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:20:38 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] Opto-isolater circuits
References: <349e6da16d61004@scribe.cc.purdue.edu>
Message-ID: <349E9356.2FC3@bellsouth.net>
Heres the optocoupler info site:
http://www.qsl.net/ae0q/contest/opto_key.htm
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From n5nu@inu.net Thu Dec 25 05:23:21 1997
From: n5nu@inu.net (Jason N5NU)
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 23:23:21 -0600
Subject: [TRLog] 10m log questions
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971224232321.0068d360@mail.inu.net>
Hello,
I have attempted to send in my 10 meter log to the ARRL using the E-mail
address in QST. It came back from the administrator saying something about
the address was incorrect.
Also, I am going to send this log in using .dat and .txt files as
attachments in MIME. Will they accept this? I've never e-mailed a log in
before.
73, Jason N5NU
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From geoiii@bga.com Wed Dec 24 08:03:06 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 02:03:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] 10m log questions
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971224232321.0068d360@mail.inu.net> from "Jason N5NU" at Dec 24, 97 11:23:21 pm
Message-ID: <199712240803.CAA20196@zoom.bga.com>
Jason N5NU writes:
>Hello,
> I have attempted to send in my 10 meter log to the ARRL using the E-mail
>address in QST. It came back from the administrator saying something about
>the address was incorrect.
You send it to: contest@arrl.org
> Also, I am going to send this log in using .dat and .txt files as
>attachments in MIME. Will they accept this? I've never e-mailed a log in
>before.
They need a summary sheet - SUMMARY.DAT and the log in ARRL format.
Use POST L A to produce the ARRL format file - the just
copy it on to the SUMMARY.DAT file so that you have a file
with the summary sheet first followed by the log. I edit the
summary.dat file to include any extra info and I fill
in the places that are blank for my name, callsign and date - kinda
of like signing it.
You then just send the entire thing as a plain text email message.
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From flydnq7x@primenet.com Fri Dec 26 21:14:31 1997
From: flydnq7x@primenet.com (Floyd Smithberg)
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 14:14:31 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] Com port keying problem
Message-ID: <199712262114.OAA27237@smtp03.primenet.com>
TR6.18 was working fine 'til I installed MRP372 new decoding/keyer program
from Germany.
Had to remove Com port 3 for the keyer to work properly and it worked fine,
but then TR didn't key properly. I reinstalled Com 3 with Win95s" Add New
Hardware"...looked ok, but now TR still won't key xmtr with cw msgs.
Pressing Enter,F1,F2 keys xmtr continuously but doesn't send cw msgs.
Simulator works ok...sends calls ok. Reinstalled TR but same problem. Tried
different contests in logcfg.dat same results.
Any clues to what I've screwed up?
73 Floyd NQ7X Phoenix ScQRPion DM33uq QRP-L 343
ARRL AMSAT ARCI G-QRP NORCAL DX WRKD HF=324 SAT=101 QRP=108
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From cookc@teleport.com Sat Dec 27 16:55:41 1997
From: cookc@teleport.com (Craig R. Cook)
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 08:55:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] ft-920
Message-ID: <199712271655.IAA05109@user2.teleport.com>
I am having a little prob with the FT-920. All the rig interface features
seem to work, except for the shift keys. They do not qsy the radio in s&p
mode, they do not work the rit in cq mode. I tried several different
contests, and made sure shift enable was set to on. It seems that it would
be possible, the rit is not a pot or anything.
Tree?
George?
Anyone?
Did you ever get one of these to play with, Tree? Maybe we could get
together if you still have not tested one.
Craig - N7OR
P.S. Using ver. 6.18
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From geoiii@bga.com Sat Dec 27 17:33:40 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 11:33:40 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] ft-920
In-Reply-To: <199712271655.IAA05109@user2.teleport.com> from "Craig R. Cook" at Dec 27, 97 08:55:41 am
Message-ID: <199712271733.LAA16268@zoom.bga.com>
Craig R. Cook writes:
>
>I am having a little prob with the FT-920. All the rig interface features
>seem to work, except for the shift keys. They do not qsy the radio in s&p
>mode, they do not work the rit in cq mode. I tried several different
>contests, and made sure shift enable was set to on. It seems that it would
>be possible, the rit is not a pot or anything.
>Tree?
The problem (unless they fixed it in the 920) is that Yaesu does
not have commands to do this easily. In the kenwood
command set there are VFO and RIT "bump" commands.
They change the VFO/RIT frequency much like it does
when you push the up/down buttons on the microphone.
Yaesu does not have such a command - you can send the
VFO or RIT to a frequency but the commands to do this
are very long and it would take way too much time
to send the command and have the radio move - in other
words you would all be complaining about how sluggish
the VFO and RIT controls are with TR.
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From dx@traverse.com Sun Dec 28 18:37:48 1997
From: dx@traverse.com (Barry Martz K8BK)
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:37:48 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Bandmap
Message-ID:
Hi All:
Just moved my pentium into the shack and removed old 286! TRlog is a
totally NEW program on the pentium! WOW!
I have one question (so far). BANDMAP. It says in the manual that
you can QSY your radio to a logged station on the bandmap by pressing
the control-end key. My cursor doesn't seem to move down into the
bandmap using either control key and my end key. I have tried it in
both search and pounce and cq modes, neither works. Am I doing
something wrong here?
Oh, one more thing, just a quick look through and didn't find a
command for the logcfg file for adjusting time. I know of the alt-t
cmd but is there a line we can add to logcfg to adj time +5 or
whatever?
Tnx. de Barry/K8BK
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From geoiii@bga.com Sun Dec 28 14:40:53 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 08:40:53 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Bandmap
In-Reply-To: from "Barry Martz K8BK" at Dec 28, 97 01:37:48 pm
Message-ID: <199712281440.IAA25285@zoom.bga.com>
Barry Martz K8BK writes:
>I have one question (so far). BANDMAP. It says in the manual that
>you can QSY your radio to a logged station on the bandmap by pressing
>the control-end key. My cursor doesn't seem to move down into the
>bandmap using either control key and my end key. I have tried it in
>both search and pounce and cq modes, neither works. Am I doing
>something wrong here?
I think it is control-page_down to the the cursor in the
band map and then you hit enter to take the radio to the
highlighted spot. (I have no radio)
>Oh, one more thing, just a quick look through and didn't find a
>command for the logcfg file for adjusting time. I know of the alt-t
>cmd but is there a line we can add to logcfg to adj time +5 or
>whatever?
In the control-J menu:
HOUR OFFSET
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512/416-7010 will make better music?"
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From geoiii@bga.com Sun Dec 28 15:07:49 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 09:07:49 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] Bandmap (fwd)
Message-ID: <199712281507.JAA27010@zoom.bga.com>
>Used to be ctrl-pg dwn. Got changed to ctrl-end in the last version I
>downloaded.
>>
>
See this is what I get for answering email so early - and not
having a radio.
Version 6.16 - Released 11 November 1997.
- Changed bandmap access key to Control-End.
So if you have 6.16 or later it should be CTL-End.
Ok, Ok I do have a Norcal 30 meter qrp rig and a
TenTec 40 meter QRP rig that almost works. It was
a kit that someone else built - now to find that
one cold solder joint.
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From dx@traverse.com Sun Dec 28 22:30:23 1997
From: dx@traverse.com (Barry Martz K8BK)
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 17:30:23 -0500
Subject: [TRLog] Bandmap/Hour offset
Message-ID:
Hi All:
Right after I wrote the question I found the hour offset. I guess I
hadn't updated the TRlog on this computer, only on the old 286.
After updating to 6.18 it worked fine.
Tnx for all the help.
7 3 and Happy New Year to all.
de Barry/K8BK
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From toms@inconnect.com Mon Dec 29 18:52:37 1997
From: toms@inconnect.com (Thomas M. Schaefer)
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 11:52:37 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] ft-920
Message-ID: <01bd148a$ee7836a0$3b32010a@toms.fh.com>
The FT1000MP and FT1000 interfaced to TR allow for moving the VFO while in
S&P. TR does not allow adjusting of the RIT, except to clear it (both right
and left shift keys at the same time). The FT920 command set may be
different or not implemented fully in TR for VFO adjustment.
I normally use a keyboard shelf while visiting op at an FT1000 house and the
VFO adjust feature in S&P is invaluable.
You might want to check the manual and see what the commands are for
adjusting the VFO. If you can find these, they can be compared against the
FT1000MP. Tree will have to let us know if this was implemented for the 920.
I do not know if there is a radio type for FT920, but you might want to
fudge it and tell the program that the radio is an FT1000MP to see if it
makes a difference. This will tell you if it is in the command set or the
program.
73,
Tom NY4I
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From lrod@pobox.com Mon Dec 29 23:53:06 1997
From: lrod@pobox.com (lrod@pobox.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:53:06 +0000
Subject: [TRLog] ft-920
In-Reply-To: <01bd148a$ee7836a0$3b32010a@toms.fh.com>
Message-ID: <199712292349.RAA28108@mail.xnet.com>
> ...TR does not allow adjusting of the RIT, except to clear it (both
> right and left shift keys at the same time).
To be fair, it is Yaesu and their implementation of software control
of radio features that prevents this. If Yaesu could TR would.
Larry or George, correct me if I'm wrong on this.
73, Rod N4SI
The DXer formerly known as N9AKE
(c) 5 November, 1996
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From geoiii@bga.com Tue Dec 30 15:02:24 1997
From: geoiii@bga.com (george fremin iii)
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:02:24 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [TRLog] ft-920
In-Reply-To: <01bd148a$ee7836a0$3b32010a@toms.fh.com> from "Thomas M. Schaefer" at Dec 29, 97 11:52:37 am
Message-ID: <199712301502.JAA14200@zoom.bga.com>
Thomas M. Schaefer writes:
>
>The FT1000MP and FT1000 interfaced to TR allow for moving the VFO while in
>S&P. TR does not allow adjusting of the RIT, except to clear it (both right
>and left shift keys at the same time). The FT920 command set may be
>different or not implemented fully in TR for VFO adjustment.
I bet that the commands are diffrent for the FT-920.
They way that yoiu read frequency from the 1000 and the 1000mp
are diffrent and not in a little way.
Kenwood has been doing a great job in this area as they seem
to have one of the better/fuller command sets and it
has been the same from the ts-940 on.
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From toms@inconnect.com Tue Dec 30 17:25:41 1997
From: toms@inconnect.com (Thomas M. Schaefer)
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 10:25:41 -0700
Subject: [TRLog] ft-920
Message-ID: <01bd1547$f42727b0$3b32010a@toms.fh.com>
All,
The Yaesu command set DOES allow adjusting the RIT but not by increments. It
only takes absolute values such as 3.2 Khz. The program would have to keep
track of how much it had adjusted the RIT and bump it (or decrement it) for
every shift key.
So if the last RIT command was 3.2Khz, and the user hit the right shift key
(UP), TR must keep track that is was on 3.2KHZ, so it must now send 3.3Khz.
There is a wishlist item with one method to make the program accomplish
this. Prioroty wise, I imagine this is low on the list. As with any other
command, there is a concern as to how long the command takes to send. This
command is not particularily longer than any other so that should not be a
major factor. I think that the major addition to the program would be to
keep track of where the RIT was last. Of course, if you use the RIT
manually, all bets are off unless the program periodically reads the RIT and
re-syncs itself.
Since Kenwood does allow incremental adjustments, it is a bit easier since
the program need not keep track of anything.
Best Regards,
Tom NY4I
PS All opinions are my own. These observations come from my own programming
experience and some vicarious knowledge of how TR sends commands to the
radios. Tree is, of course, the ultimate authority on what the program does
and how easy or hard something is to implement.
-----Original Message-----
From: n4si@pobox.com
To: trlog@contesting.com
Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TRLog] ft-920
> ...TR does not allow adjusting of the RIT, except to clear it (both
> right and left shift keys at the same time).
To be fair, it is Yaesu and their implementation of software control
of radio features that prevents this. If Yaesu could TR would.
Larry or George, correct me if I'm wrong on this.
73, Rod N4SI
The DXer formerly known as N9AKE
(c) 5 November, 1996
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From n6tr@teleport.com Wed Dec 31 15:27:41 1997
From: n6tr@teleport.com (Tree N6TR)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 07:27:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [TRLog] Two radio CW bugs
Message-ID: <199712311527.HAA04257@user2.teleport.com>
When I fixed up the program to work with two radios on SSB with the DVP,
I created a couple of problems on CW. Jan, G0IVZ found these and I have
fixed them for the next release.
Obviously, if you are going to operate the NAQP CW with two radios, you
will either need to use a pre SS SSB version, or get the next release
which I will put out this weekend.
73 Tree N6TR
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