I believe (flying by my sop) that the FD rules specifically count 15 minutes from the first transmission ( CQ, QSO, whatever). Scott, KF6LCV -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html