From joe.carvalho@mci.com Mon Feb 1 18:24:56 1999 From: joe.carvalho@mci.com (Joe Carvalho) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:24:56 -0700 Subject: [TRLog] v6.36 and Kenwood TS-940 RIT control Message-ID: <19990201182517.HCWF28868@[166.33.200.179]> --=====================_247503951==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When I use the shift buttons on the keyboard for rit control, the TS-940 scrolls up/down as much as it wants. Hitting escape does not stop the system from doing as it pleases. Any suggs? --joe DE KR6NA -- Contact Info ========= Joseph D. Carvalho Pager: 303.310.1890 Office: 303.390.1243 VNET: 636.1243 e-mail: joe.carvalho@mci.com My opinions are mine and not those expressed by my employer, my provider, or my country. As always, I claim first dibs on the last rites. --=====================_247503951==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

When I use the shift buttons on the keyboard for rit control, the TS-940 scrolls up/down as much as it wants. Hitting escape does not stop the system from doing as it pleases.

Any suggs?

--joe

DE KR6NA

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My opinions are mine and not those expressed by my employer, my provider, or my country.

As always, I claim first dibs on the last rites.
--=====================_247503951==_.ALT-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From geoiii@kkn.net Mon Feb 1 19:37:04 1999 From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:37:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] v6.36 and Kenwood TS-940 RIT control In-Reply-To: <19990201182517.HCWF28868@[166.33.200.179]> from "Joe Carvalho" at Feb 1, 99 11:24:56 am Message-ID: <199902011937.LAA07735@quito.kkn.net> > > When I use the shift buttons on the keyboard for rit control, the TS-940 > scrolls up/down as much as it wants. Hitting escape does not stop the system > from doing as it pleases. > Any suggs? > --joe > DE KR6NA I think what you are seeing is that the ts-940 is slow to respond to commands - if you quiclkiy tap the shift key the RIT will move a very little bit. I have always found the RIT control to be poor on the RIT via TR-Log. On the TS-850 it is very good. I am not sure anything can be done in TR to make the 940 work better. -- George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have nothing geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. 830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From swca@ionet.net Mon Feb 1 18:54:22 1999 From: swca@ionet.net (swca@ionet.net) Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:54:22 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] v6.36 and Kenwood TS-940 RIT control In-Reply-To: <199902011937.LAA07735@quito.kkn.net> References: <19990201182517.HCWF28868@[166.33.200.179]> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990201125422.00a79288@ionet.net> >I have always found the RIT control to be poor >on the RIT via TR-Log. On the TS-850 it is >very good. I am not sure anything can be done >in TR to make the 940 work better. The TS-950 is also pretty good, although, like with the 940, small taps are better than 'hold and slide.' Mark, N5OT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Mon Feb 1 19:25:24 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] v6.36 and Kenwood TS-940 RIT control Message-ID: <199902011925.LAA28241@user1.teleport.com> > When I use the shift buttons on the keyboard for rit control, the TS-940 > scrolls up/down as much as it wants. Hitting escape does not stop the system > from doing as it pleases. The 940 doesn't keep up as fast as the 850. What you are probably seeing is overshoot. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From geoiii@kkn.net Mon Feb 1 22:00:00 1999 From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:00:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] FOC Marathon Message-ID: <199902012200.OAA09009@quito.kkn.net> Hi, If anyone needs files for the FOC Marathon and I have not sent them to you yet please let me know. BTW - this a "members only event" so if you are not an FOCer there is really no point in getting the files. -- George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have nothing geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. 830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Feb 2 00:07:52 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:07:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] The Manual - an opportunity for the right person Message-ID: <199902020007.QAA06681@user2.teleport.com> Well folks - I continue to be way too busy to get to everything. I think the best thing to do with the manual is find someone out there who would be willing to do such a thing - and has the time to do it. George and I have agreed to pay someone to do this. We were thinking of $3 for each copy of TR sold. We can tell serious applicants how much we think that will be in a typical year. There would probably be the same cut from the extra manuals we sell as well. The job would consist of reviewing the release notes as each new version comes out, and updating the manual in a timely manner (as opposed to how I have been doing it). It should be on the web somewhere where anyone can get to it (including George so he can print the latest version when he needs more manuals). There is some catch up to be done as the last manual update was version 6.25. I have received some comments from some of you with suggestions for changes to the manual. You would receive all of these and decide what to do about them. In other words, the manual will be yours and you can make the changes want. However, you will also be forwarded all comments about the manual. This move will allow me to stop feeling bad about the current situation and focus my energy on the areas I can add the highest value (i.e., the program itself). Please let me know by the end of the week if you are interested. The goal would be to have your first version done sometime during April so it will be in good shape for Dayton. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From dabs@worldnet.att.net Wed Feb 3 00:21:22 1999 From: dabs@worldnet.att.net (Hendrick House) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:21:22 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] Novice RoundUp Message-ID: <000401be4f0b$b2db3ea0$d3894b0c@default> Anybody have any ideas of a similar contest file that would fit the FISTS CW club novice roundup contest? The exchange is call, name, RST, class, and QTH. The best thing I could come up with is the 10-10 contest. It has name, 10-10#, and QTH. I thought the 10-10# could be exchanged with 1 = novice, 2 = tech etc. The RST would have to be dropped. Any ideas? Contest is 2-12-99 @ 1700z to 2-15-99 @ 2400z. novice band CW only. Listen for KB0JSH/T Bill, N0AC -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Wed Feb 3 14:29:30 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:29:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199902031429.GAA28183@user2.teleport.com> From: Soro Roberto To: "'trlog@contesting.com'" Subject: Sharing of TRLog Files Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:38:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain I RESEND THIS MESSAGE BECAUSE WAS RETURNED TO ME BY THE MAILER Sorry if you will received it twice......Bob Hello TR Users: sorry for the delay but I was away for business. I can manage the ftp site and I will be pleased to do it. I have an ftp site already in place and a web site as well. (Thank to QSL.NET) Let me have the files and I will let them available to everybody. You can go to: http://www.qsl.net/i2wij/ than look for: My FTP site 73, Bob, I2WIJ > Igor Sokolov [SMTP:ua9cdc@dialup.mplik.ru] wrote: >...... > Another idea, can somebody set up FTP account so that we can put there every > version of CTY.dat and logcfg.dat for different contests. I would really > like to have all those config tweaks that Juhan described in his messages. >...... -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Wed Feb 3 20:52:00 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:52:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] FT1000 MP owners beware Message-ID: <199902032052.MAA29813@user2.teleport.com> This came off the NA reflector. NA is looking into adopting the PTT delay that TR already has. I knew this was an idea that would catch on someday (took about 10 years). I wonder what the story is with QSK then. > From owner-na-user@contesting.com Wed Feb 3 12:58:49 1999 > Message-Id: <199902031945.OAA12309@mailfw1.ford.com> > From: "T Mitchell (Tim)" > > > I just got off the phone with the fine folks at Yaesu who were nice enough to > talk to me about the MP even though I don't have one. > > Yaesu wants at least 50ms from assertion of PTT to the assertion of any CW. > > They say that if you gave them 100ms they would like that even more but 50ms is > the minimum time they suggest. > > This assumes that the PTT inputs are used, not the CAT instruction. If the CAT > instruction is used, they suggest a longer time to make sure the cmd is > received, processed, etc. > > Guess this will have to wait until it is coded. :-( > > Sorry for the bad news (MP owners) but at least we have an answer to the > problem. > > 73 Tim K9TM > > -- > Submissions: na-user@contesting.com > Administrative requests: na-user-REQUEST@contesting.com > WWW: http://www.contesting.com/datom/ > Questions: owner-na-user@contesting.com > -- George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have nothing geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. 830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k6xx@jps.net Wed Feb 3 21:53:58 1999 From: k6xx@jps.net (Bob Wolbert, K6XX) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:53:58 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] FT1000 MP owners beware Message-ID: <01BE4F7C.A8D31F60.k6xx@jps.net> 50ms!!! How in hell can the rig function??? It can't be that long--the rig sounds good on the air. 50ms is more than a dot length at 40WPM (at least I think so--33ms is a dot at 40WPM, right?). I think he spoke with some ultra-conservative cust. service guy. That guy gave him a number he could "positively guarantee" without having to make any measurements--if the customer is satisfied with the answer, then Yaesu saved time/$$$. Unless of course his fast answer cost Yaesu a sale, but that's another story. I don't believe it. Tree, you have 1000MP users. Certainly some of them use PTT! Have any reported poor keying? BTW: I do not own an 'MP, but have been considering one... and I run a group that answers technical calls from customers -- so I understand the incentive (and dangers) of brevity. 73 de Bob, K6XX -----Original Message----- From: n6tr@teleport.com [SMTP:n6tr@teleport.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 12:52 PM To: trlog@contesting.com Subject: [TRLog] FT1000 MP owners beware This came off the NA reflector. NA is looking into adopting the PTT delay that TR already has. I knew this was an idea that would catch on someday (took about 10 years). I wonder what the story is with QSK then. > From owner-na-user@contesting.com Wed Feb 3 12:58:49 1999 > Message-Id: <199902031945.OAA12309@mailfw1.ford.com> > From: "T Mitchell (Tim)" > > > I just got off the phone with the fine folks at Yaesu who were nice enough to > talk to me about the MP even though I don't have one. > > Yaesu wants at least 50ms from assertion of PTT to the assertion of any CW. > > They say that if you gave them 100ms they would like that even more but 50ms is > the minimum time they suggest. > > This assumes that the PTT inputs are used, not the CAT instruction. If the CAT > instruction is used, they suggest a longer time to make sure the cmd is > received, processed, etc. > > Guess this will have to wait until it is coded. :-( > > Sorry for the bad news (MP owners) but at least we have an answer to the > problem. > > 73 Tim K9TM > > -- > Submissions: na-user@contesting.com > Administrative requests: na-user-REQUEST@contesting.com > WWW: http://www.contesting.com/datom/ > Questions: owner-na-user@contesting.com > -- George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have nothing geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. 830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From no6x@inreach.com Thu Feb 4 02:54:54 1999 From: no6x@inreach.com (Mike Nash, NO6X) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:54:54 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] FT1000 MP owners beware In-Reply-To: <01BE4F7C.A8D31F60.k6xx@jps.net> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990203185454.007c6ce0@inreach.com> 25ms =1 dot at 35WPM I think that is correct so 50ms = 1 dot at 17 1/2 WPM right, wrong, or in between??? Still seems like an awful long time to me, but what does a young,dumb,California, Kenwood owner know??? Mike...NO6X At 01:53 PM 2/3/99 -0800, you wrote: > >50ms!!! How in hell can the rig function??? > >It can't be that long--the rig sounds good on the air. 50ms is more than a >dot length at 40WPM (at least I think so--33ms is a dot at 40WPM, right?). > >I think he spoke with some ultra-conservative cust. service guy. That guy >gave him a number he could "positively guarantee" without having to make >any measurements--if the customer is satisfied with the answer, then Yaesu >saved time/$$$. Unless of course his fast answer cost Yaesu a sale, but >that's another story. > >I don't believe it. Tree, you have 1000MP users. Certainly some of them use >PTT! Have any reported poor keying? > >BTW: I do not own an 'MP, but have been considering one... and I run a >group that answers technical calls from customers -- so I understand the >incentive (and dangers) of brevity. > >73 de Bob, K6XX > >-----Original Message----- >From: n6tr@teleport.com [SMTP:n6tr@teleport.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 12:52 PM >To: trlog@contesting.com >Subject: [TRLog] FT1000 MP owners beware > > > >This came off the NA reflector. NA is looking into adopting the >PTT delay that TR already has. I knew this was an idea that would >catch on someday (took about 10 years). I wonder what the story >is with QSK then. > >> From owner-na-user@contesting.com Wed Feb 3 12:58:49 1999 >> Message-Id: <199902031945.OAA12309@mailfw1.ford.com> >> From: "T Mitchell (Tim)" >> >> >> I just got off the phone with the fine folks at Yaesu who were nice >enough to >> talk to me about the MP even though I don't have one. >> >> Yaesu wants at least 50ms from assertion of PTT to the assertion of any >CW. >> >> They say that if you gave them 100ms they would like that even more but >50ms is >> the minimum time they suggest. >> >> This assumes that the PTT inputs are used, not the CAT instruction. If >the CAT >> instruction is used, they suggest a longer time to make sure the cmd is >> received, processed, etc. >> >> Guess this will have to wait until it is coded. :-( >> >> Sorry for the bad news (MP owners) but at least we have an answer to the >> problem. >> >> 73 Tim K9TM >> >> -- >> Submissions: na-user@contesting.com >> Administrative requests: na-user-REQUEST@contesting.com >> WWW: http://www.contesting.com/datom/ >> Questions: owner-na-user@contesting.com >> > > >-- > >George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection >Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing >K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have >nothing >geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. >830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery >http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > > > A Keyring, what a handy gadget. It allows me to lose all of my keys at one time. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From vr2bg@harts.org.hk Thu Feb 4 09:30:41 1999 From: vr2bg@harts.org.hk (VR2BrettGraham) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 09:30:41 +0000 Subject: [TRLog] FT1000 MP owners beware Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990204093041.00947470@pop.asiaonline.net> K6XX wrote: I think he spoke with some ultra-conservative cust. service guy. That guy gave him a number he could "positively guarantee" without having to make any measurements--if the customer is satisfied with the answer, then Yaesu saved time/$$$. Unless of course his fast answer cost Yaesu a sale, but that's another story. This 50 mS thing sounds very similar to answer I have seen from Yaesu USA service on another MP problem concerning the front panel display. Believe it or not, that display runs on 3 kVA. Work backwards from that & my MP should be blowing the breaker to my shack 13 amp ring main outlets at 220 VAC. You folks out there with 120 VAC mains would never stand a chance & attempting to run it off 12 VDC would suck dry just about any big battery like it was a SUM3 (what I think North Americans call a double-A). But seriously, my MP seemed to key just fine without sequenced PTT. The sequenced PTT was a must when the MP was driving a TL922, though. Glad I didn't buy it for QSK! ;^) 73, VR2BrettGraham -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From tgstewart@pepco.com Thu Feb 4 13:21:44 1999 From: tgstewart@pepco.com (tgstewart@pepco.com) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:21:44 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] FT1000 MP owners beware Message-ID: <8525670E.0049094D.00@teb-ng1.pepco.com> QSK works fine with the MP in BreakIn mode. VOX also works fine with no significant delay times. If you use solid state amp keying on your amplifier, that will work fine as well. However, you will then lose complete "lockout" control via the PTT input, which is the only real trouble at this point. Using the LPT PTT from the computer, you can always set up the MP for zero VOX delay in the menu and turn the VOX on to fix the keying lead-time problem, and everything will work fine except you no longer have absolute lockout control via the computer(s). However, if you are only using TR or NA for all CW generation (ie using the paddle input and no external keyers), this shouldnt be a problem either. 73, Ty K3MM To: trlog@contesting.com cc: (bcc: Tyler G Stewart/BENN/CEC) Subject: [TRLog] FT1000 MP owners beware This came off the NA reflector. NA is looking into adopting the PTT delay that TR already has. I knew this was an idea that would catch on someday (took about 10 years). I wonder what the story is with QSK then. > From owner-na-user@contesting.com Wed Feb 3 12:58:49 1999 > Message-Id: <199902031945.OAA12309@mailfw1.ford.com> > From: "T Mitchell (Tim)" > > > I just got off the phone with the fine folks at Yaesu who were nice enough to > talk to me about the MP even though I don't have one. > > Yaesu wants at least 50ms from assertion of PTT to the assertion of any CW. > > They say that if you gave them 100ms they would like that even more but 50ms is > the minimum time they suggest. > > This assumes that the PTT inputs are used, not the CAT instruction. If the CAT > instruction is used, they suggest a longer time to make sure the cmd is > received, processed, etc. > > Guess this will have to wait until it is coded. :-( > > Sorry for the bad news (MP owners) but at least we have an answer to the > problem. > > 73 Tim K9TM > > -- > Submissions: na-user@contesting.com > Administrative requests: na-user-REQUEST@contesting.com > WWW: http://www.contesting.com/datom/ > Questions: owner-na-user@contesting.com > -- George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have nothing geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. 830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n4zr@contesting.com Thu Feb 4 12:16:52 1999 From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 12:16:52 +0000 Subject: [TRLog] RE: PTT sequencing In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990204093041.00947470@pop.asiaonline.net> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990204121652.007e24d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> For what it's worth .... My TS-930 (which produces fairly good QSK barefoot) asserts a PTT signal 2 ms before the first RF. No way that's slow enough to protect my SB-220. Last fall in CQWWCW, I used a TRLog setting of 20 (34 ms leadtime). For the first time in years, I didn't have the amp apart during the contest to burnish the TR relay contacts. One of the projects on my list is to replace the input and output relays on the SB-220 with fast ones. Even then, I probably won't attempt QRO QSK during a major contest, because it wouldn't take very long to exceed the maximum expected life (in switching cycles) of the replacement relays. So I bless TRLog for having the programmable PTT function, even if it HAS allowed me to procrastinate on the relay change. 73, Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr@contesting.com Loud is. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k6xx@jps.net Thu Feb 4 19:11:09 1999 From: k6xx@jps.net (Bob Wolbert, K6XX) Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 11:11:09 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] RE: PTT sequencing Message-ID: <01BE5031.A3423F80.k6xx@jps.net> Pete, A circuit that will accelerate that old relay without causing excessive wear: http://www.jps.net/k6xx/fastrely.htm This is from a circuit by Tony, K1KP. It makes a HUGE difference when running my '930. It reduces my lag time, but its biggest benefit is it works all the time, not just when TR is doing the keying. Just make sure the transistor is rated at least double the open circuit coil voltage on the SB-220. 73 de Bob, K6XX -----Original Message----- From: Pete Smith [SMTP:n4zr@contesting.com] Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 4:17 AM To: trlog@contesting.com Subject: [TRLog] RE: PTT sequencing For what it's worth .... My TS-930 (which produces fairly good QSK barefoot) asserts a PTT signal 2 ms before the first RF. No way that's slow enough to protect my SB-220. Last fall in CQWWCW, I used a TRLog setting of 20 (34 ms leadtime). For the first time in years, I didn't have the amp apart during the contest to burnish the TR relay contacts. One of the projects on my list is to replace the input and output relays on the SB-220 with fast ones. Even then, I probably won't attempt QRO QSK during a major contest, because it wouldn't take very long to exceed the maximum expected life (in switching cycles) of the replacement relays. So I bless TRLog for having the programmable PTT function, even if it HAS allowed me to procrastinate on the relay change. 73, Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr@contesting.com Loud is. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From joe.carvalho@mci.com Sat Feb 6 10:41:09 1999 From: joe.carvalho@mci.com (Joseph D. Carvalho) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:41:09 -0000 Subject: [TRLog] v.6.36...TS940...no band switching Message-ID: <001801be51bd$368f91c0$9887fea9@velo> In preparation for Sprint... Load dvptsr Start tr. With the band map enabled, it shows the current band and operating freq. Hitting alt-b or alt-v does not cause the radio the change bands. The display indicates the software is doing the right thing and the radio beeps to indicate that it is changing, but it never changes band. Using the '-' to prompt for a freq will sometimes cause the mode to toggle from USB/LSB depending on the band. But the freq never changes. If I press the band/key on the radio, the software follows, no prob. As a diagnostic tool, I'm able to have RTTY/WF1B's change the radio bands/freq as needed. Both band changing as well as direct freq input. Tnx, --joe -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From geoiii@kkn.net Sat Feb 6 05:44:32 1999 From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:44:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] v.6.36...TS940...no band switching In-Reply-To: <001801be51bd$368f91c0$9887fea9@velo> from "Joseph D. Carvalho" at Feb 6, 99 10:41:09 am Message-ID: <199902060544.VAA19663@quito.kkn.net> Joseph D. Carvalho writes: > > > In preparation for Sprint... > > Load dvptsr > Start tr. > With the band map enabled, it shows the current band and operating freq. > Hitting alt-b or alt-v does not cause the radio the change bands. The > display indicates the software is doing the right thing and the radio beeps > to indicate that it is changing, but it never changes band. Change the radio to VFO A. -- George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have nothing geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. 830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From lu6etb@cvtci.com.ar Sat Feb 6 20:34:35 1999 From: lu6etb@cvtci.com.ar (Arturo Gargarella - LU6ETB) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:34:35 -0300 Subject: [TRLog] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Summary_Sheet_doesn=B4t_work?= Message-ID: <000401be5210$3a9748a0$1046a8c0@arturo> I am using Version 6.36 with the new file format. TEST.DAT, TEST.CFG, etc. When I call POST from the contests file directory, it displays a menu with all the contests, then I select one of them. After that, I choose (R)eport and (S)ummary. At this point the message "OK to proceed (Y/N)" appears. When I press "Y" the program says "LOGCFG.DAT file not found". Am I doing something wrong ?. Any help will be appreciated. 73 de Arturo, LU6ETB -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From lu6etb@cvtci.com.ar Sat Feb 6 21:00:53 1999 From: lu6etb@cvtci.com.ar (Arturo Gargarella - LU6ETB) Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:00:53 -0300 Subject: [TRLog] Problems in WAE with new file name format ? Message-ID: <000301be5213$f4c72260$2146a8c0@arturo> Tree : I am converting all the old dat files to the new file name convention. As I didn't know what were the extention name for the QTCs, I created a new contest named "99-WAE". After sending a QTC the following files were created : 99-WAE.DAT 99-WAE.CFG 99-WAE.RST 99-WAE.TMP BANDMAP.BIN QTCLIST.DAT QTC.DAT The extention for the files QTCLIST.DAT and QTC.DAT must be changed. TU 73 de Arturo, LU6ETB PD : Can I or you do something to show in the WAE only the European prefixes in the Remaing List Window ? -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n2cu@buffnet.net Mon Feb 8 14:37:49 1999 From: n2cu@buffnet.net (Thomas R. Williams) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:37:49 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] MQP Message-ID: <36BEF6BD.20BA@buffnet.net> Tried to generate a summary sheet for the MQP from Version 6.36. Said the MQP was not supported. Had the same thing happen for the Croatian contest. The work around is to change the contest name in LOGCFG.DAT to CAL QSO PARTY or something you know TRLog supports, make the summary sheet, and then edit the contest name at the top of the page to read MQP. 73, Tom N2CU -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From N7DR@arrl.net Sun Feb 7 20:26:10 1999 From: N7DR@arrl.net (D. R. Evans) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:26:10 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] TR and 10-10 Message-ID: All right, I know I'm going to get flack for treating the 10-10 thing this weekend as a contest, so let's just take it as read that I know it's not a real contest. (My excuse is that I was testing out the new 930 board. It worked great. Tree: any chance that there'll be a version compatible with the mode problems in the current firmware before ARRL CW? I'm dying to try it out in a CW test.) Anyway, a couple of things came up. 1. Even though there's room in the TRMASTER file for 10-10 numbers, there doesn't seem to be any way to have the 10-10 number come up as part of the initial exchange (not according to the documentation, anyway). 2. The exchange parser seems rather dense. It understands the 10-10 number OK, but it doesn't understand the difference between a name and a state. Whichever string comes first is treated as a name. The problem is that a lot of these people are not contesters and the information is likely to come in any old order, so I found myself spending a lot of time shuffling the cursor around to get the name before the state. I realise that there are problems with strings like "Al", but generally it's not hard to distinguish a name from a state apart from these pathological cases. Most of the time TR ought to be able to figure out correctly which is which and put the right strings in the right fields in the log file. Doc N7DR ---------------------------------------------------------- D.R. Evans N7DR / G4AMJ N7DR@arrl.net "Palindor Chronicles" information and extracts: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR/drevans.htp ---------------------------------------------------------- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n2cu@buffnet.net Mon Feb 8 20:58:28 1999 From: n2cu@buffnet.net (Thomas R. Williams) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:58:28 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] MQP Message-ID: <36BF4FF4.30B6@buffnet.net> Tried to generate a summary sheet for the MQP with Version 6.36. Post said the contest is not yet supported. Had the same thing happen with the Croatian contest. Future fix? To work around it, change the contest name in LOGCFG.DAT to CAL QSO PARTY, generate the summary sheet, then edit the sheet title to MQP. 73, Tom N2CU -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Chad_Kurszewski@css.mot.com Mon Feb 8 21:00:27 1999 From: Chad_Kurszewski@css.mot.com (WE9V Chad Kurszewski) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:00:27 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] How TR saved my house from destruction!! Message-ID: <199902082102.PAA16987@OAMPC12.csg.mot.com> If you don't want to read something that doesn't directly pertain to TR in a contest environment, hit the delete button now. How TR saved my house from destruction!! ---------------------------------------- I know a lot of you down South can't relate, but up here in Wisconsin, the majority of the homes have below grade basements. Some homes, mine included, require the use of a sump pump that drains water that accumulates/drains down the basement walls (on the exterior). Around the perimeter of the bottom of the basement of a house, a porous pipe is installed to allow the water to drain into a pit, inside the basement, and then be pumped up and away, usually into your yard, far away from the house. Installed in the pit is a sump pump, which has a liquid level float switch to drain at the opportune time. Now with the basement explaination out of the way... Last night, my fiancee says she hears a funny motor noise coming from the basement. My sump pump float switch failed open (wouldn't run). Fortunately, last year I installed a battery backed up sump pump in addition to the primary pump. What she heard was this new pump (and alarm) trying to save all of my ham goodies from being submerged in water. This was after 11pm last night. Because we still had electricity, I was able to bypass the float switch and drain the pit (and associated 120' of 4" drain pipe), but I didn't know what to do after that. Without the float switch, the pump either wouldn't run at all, or run all the time, which could burn out the pump. I sat there and sat there, trying to think of how I could rig something up to cycle the pump at the right times, and not burn out the pump. I thought of a lamp timer, but the best case would be on for 30 MINUTES and off for 30 minutes. That's not good. I couldn't figure anything out that would measure a water level and then turn on a 117VAC appliance! I thought about using the float from the battery backed up unit, but didn't want to mess it up. Plus, the float for the backup unit is much higher, at a emergency level. I wouldn't want to knowingly trust it overnight. Also, the backup float had a special plug on it, and I wasn't sure it was capable of directly switching 117VAC like the old float switch. So get this... Just that day, I finally got to wiring up the PTT signal for the LPT port for CW keying. Anyway, I found a 24V relay, a 24V power supply, and made a cable that the PTT signal keyed up this big relay. On the contacts of the relay, I had 117V going to a 117V receptacle. I had this whole thing homebrewed by midnight. I made TR go into a CQ REPEAT mode, but could only get the RX time up to about 45 seconds. This was much too quick. I found out, that with the PgDn key, I was able to increase that time to (and more if necessary) 360 seconds for a whopping 6 minutes. I also turned down the keying speed to 4 WPM, so the "quick" sprint CQ lasted for 30 seconds. Perfect. Run the sump pump for 30 seconds and off for 6 minutes. I left the computer on and TR in the repeat mode (no, I didn't leave the radio on!) I slept well not worrying about it (plus the battery backed up sump would have fired up if there was another malfunction). This morning I got up, called in to work saying I'd be a little late, and then went to Menards to buy a new switch. Installed it and on the road to work by 9am. And THAT'S how TR saved my house (and ham gear) from a flood! --- Chad Kurszewski, WE9V e-mail: WE9V@qth.com The Official "Sultans of Shwing" Web Site: http://www.QTH.com/sos -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n2cu@buffnet.net Sun Feb 7 16:34:00 1999 From: n2cu@buffnet.net (Thomas R. Williams) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 08:34:00 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] MQP Message-ID: <36BDC078.62E7@buffnet.net> Just tried to generate a summary sheet from Version 6.36 for the MQP. Post says it's not supported. Had the same thing happen for the Croatian test. 73, Tom N2CU -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From v31jp@logical123.net Sun Feb 7 08:49:42 1999 From: v31jp@logical123.net (Joseph L. Pontek, Sr.) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 03:49:42 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Keyboard overlay? Message-ID: <36BD53A4.EDF38B57@logical123.net> Well, I'm out to head out and was looking to modify my keyboard overlay for my new small keyboard and can not find the file. I thought it was in either Excel or MS Word, but I can't find it. It might be on the old drive I just retired, but I can't find it. Was it available on a WEBB page or can someone send me a copy of it? With all these last minute things, I'm not sure which is a last minute, next to last, next to next to last, .... Thanks! -- 73 de K8 Joe "Palooka" & Beverly Joe Pontek 26441 Devaney Road Arcadia, IN 46030 USA 317-984-7388 K8JP, V31JP, VP5/K8JP, VP5JP, K8JP/VA2, ex-K8HKM CJ5 '65 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From v31jp@logical123.net Tue Feb 9 00:39:43 1999 From: v31jp@logical123.net (Joseph L. Pontek, Sr.) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:39:43 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Keyboard Overlay? Message-ID: <36BF83CE.780D4075@logical123.net> Well, I'm about to head out for V31 and was looking to modify my keyboard overlay for my new small keyboard and can not find the file. I thought it was in either Excel or MS Word, but I can't find it. It might be on the old drive I just retired, but I can't find it. Was it available on a WEBB page or can someone send me a copy of it? With all these last minute things, I'm not sure which is a last minute, next to last, next to next to last, .... Thanks! -- 73 de K8 Joe "Palooka" & Beverly Joe Pontek 26441 Devaney Road Arcadia, IN 46030 USA 317-984-7388 K8JP, V31JP, VP5/K8JP, VP5JP, K8JP/VA2, ex-K8HKM CJ5 '65 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From v31jp@logical123.net Tue Feb 9 05:28:14 1999 From: v31jp@logical123.net (Joseph L. Pontek, Sr.) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:28:14 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] TR Keyboard overlay Message-ID: <36BFC76D.98110BBA@logical123.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0080B92E31DAEDA8A9204B98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to Dale, KG5U, here it is. 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA== --------------0080B92E31DAEDA8A9204B98-- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From OL5Y@contesting.com Tue Feb 9 17:37:40 1999 From: OL5Y@contesting.com (Martin Huml) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:37:40 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Tips and recommendations Message-ID: <01BE545B.8EC84800@as5.easynet.cz> Some tips from my "notepad": * Filter WARC-bands and VHF-bands spots from Bandmap (in case BAND MAP ALL BANDS = true) * To enable more possibilities how to finish QSO (QSLing). Now there are two ways only: QSL (Enter) or Quick QSL (e.g. backslash). It would be very nice if I could finish QSO with another programmable manners, e.g.: - TU JOHN (name from TRMASTER.DTA) - 73 - QRV 80M? - CIAO JOE (salutation from HELLO.DAT and name from TRMASTER.DTA) This feature could be implemented e.g. by special control character located in EX MEMORY string, which evoke logging QSO. If you apply this feature, TRlog will gain additional jump from other contest logging programs. And I will be more happy, HI. * In WPX contest (and others with prefix multipliers) is no possibility to show multipliers worked. This could be e.g. as follows: - nothing in CALL window, AltG pressed -> all prefixes worked are displayed (alphabetically sorted) - "J" in CALL window, AltG pressed -> prefixes worked starting with J (J2, J3, J6, J7, JA1, JA2, ...) - "JA" in CALL window, AltG pressed -> prefixes worked starting with JA (JA1, JA2, ...) * In WAE contest there could be useful following features: - In "remaining multiplier window" to display DX countries only (if I am in EU) or EU countries (if I am not in EU). - Possibility to change of sending texts (e.g. QTC?, PSE x QTC, QSL x/y, ...). - Possibility to use Ctrl-Enter and Alt-K functions. - Possibility to use "function key memory" during receiving QTCs. - Automatically fill time to 4-digit format on basis of previous QTC during receiving QTCs. Also if station not send current time. Now, if I have not fill all three information - time, call, nr - the program will not log this QTC which is complication with higher speeds. - Possibility to add another QTCs after receive all declared QTCs (declared before receiving). E.g. when program asks "Press Return to log or E to edit" to eke "or A to add". Sometimes happen that station sent bad number of QTCs in group. - Possibility to view file with received QTCs (like Ctrl-L and Alt-L). - To disable possibility to edit QTC nr. If I edit received QTCs and use Tab, in second line cursor jumps to QTC nr. - Information "Number QTCs received = ..." could be better on 6th line instead on 7th. - Add information about received (sent) QTCs to bandmap. * Function Control-U in memory message could update CallsignICameBackTo variable with the call window contents or callsign in exchange window (new written), if there is. Now, when I write corrected callsign in exchange windows, than use message with Control-U, CALL OKAY NOW message is sent always. * If in the end of any CW message is change of the speed, this command is not executed (speed is not changed). * Possibility to place (logcfg switch) BIG QSO number e.g. to the right upper corner of the screen. This is very useful in SSB contests with exchange QSO nr. (WPX, WAE, ...) * In manual or help is not any information about HELLO.DAT file. What is it LOGLASTCALL CW function and where is using? WPX is coming... 73 and thanks Tree for SUPER PROGRAM ! Martin Huml OK1FUA, OL5Y or IH9/OL5Y in the contests OL5Y@contesting.com Contest Team Pantelleria - IH9P - CQWW DX SSB MULTI/MULTI http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/eudora/126/ih9p.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From crobson@erie.net Tue Feb 9 11:53:54 1999 From: crobson@erie.net (Chris Robson) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 06:53:54 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] How TR saved my house from destruction!! In-Reply-To: <199902082102.PAA16987@OAMPC12.csg.mot.com> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990209065354.0069ddc0@erie.net> >How TR saved my house from destruction!! >---------------------------------------- Great Story!!! I will remember this since I too suffer form occational sump pump failure. What a marketing tool Tree!! 73, Chris KB3A -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From sales@vargardaradio.se Tue Feb 9 09:36:11 1999 From: sales@vargardaradio.se (Bengt Christensen) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:36:11 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Where to get the updated ver's Message-ID: <36C0018B.8A5C913B@vargardaradio.se> Hi all fellow Contesters! We've purchased the TR software a long time ago. Could anyone please tell where and how to get the updated versions? CU in the next contest! 73's de Bengt/SM6FUD, SK6TY, SK6NP -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From kharker@cs.utexas.edu Tue Feb 9 18:14:16 1999 From: kharker@cs.utexas.edu (Kenneth Earl Harker) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:14:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: [TRLog] Tips and recommendations In-Reply-To: <01BE545B.8EC84800@as5.easynet.cz> from "Martin Huml" at Feb 9, 99 06:37:40 pm Message-ID: <199902091814.MAA30072@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu> Thus spoke Martin Huml: > > > Some tips from my "notepad": > > * Filter WARC-bands and VHF-bands spots from Bandmap (in case BAND MAP ALL BANDS = true) A better solution to this would be to make it sensitive to whether or not HF, WARC, or VHF were enabled or disabled. I certainly wouldn't want my VHF spots filtered out during a major VHF contest! -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kenneth E. Harker "Vox Clamantis in Deserto" kharker@cs.utexas.edu University of Texas at Austin Amateur Radio Callsign: KM5FA Department of the Computer Sciences President, UT Amateur Radio Club Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 Maintainer of the Linux Laptop Home Page Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From pmoore@ugf.edu Tue Feb 9 20:28:08 1999 From: pmoore@ugf.edu (Pat Moore) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:28:08 -0700 Subject: [TRLog] RE: How TR saved my house from destruction!! In-Reply-To: <199902090456.XAA21197@contesting.com> Message-ID: <000401be546a$b481bae0$0f467fce@fac16.ugf.edu> Well, Tree, there it is. You'll need to add the diagram for the 110V relay to the manual, but you've got all you need for big sales at Dayton this year. Probably need to find out when the home show is scheduled, though... 73 de AL7L -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From hwardsil@WOLFENET.com Tue Feb 9 21:13:56 1999 From: hwardsil@WOLFENET.com (Ward Silver) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:13:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] How TR saved my house from destruction!! In-Reply-To: <199902082102.PAA16987@OAMPC12.csg.mot.com> Message-ID: Sounds like a new mode, for sure...just type "TR SUMP" and, voila! 73, Ward N0AX -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ingemar.fogelberg@swipnet.se Tue Feb 9 22:12:10 1999 From: ingemar.fogelberg@swipnet.se (Ingemar Fogelberg) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:12:10 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] TR Keyboard overlay References: <36BFC76D.98110BBA@logical123.net> Message-ID: <36C0B2B9.158A0C3B@swipnet.se> You can also find the very same template at my home page. See http://hem.passagen.se/sm5ajv/software.html The format is Word 6 and will work with Word97 as well. 73 de Ingo, SM5AJV Joseph L. Pontek, Sr. skrev: > Thanks to Dale, KG5U, here it is. I'm not sure if the attached file will > > make it through the reflector. > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From 107770.3462@compuserve.com Wed Feb 10 00:48:55 1999 From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:48:55 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] TRLog saving house Message-ID: <199902091949_MC2-69E8-E648@compuserve.com> I think this heroic story will help start a whole new wish list category. Valuable side effects of TR: Sump timing Garage Door opening/closing Tower raising/lowering Various security system functions Kitchen uses during tests, pre and post test DVK telephone answering etc, 73 Jim KI7Y Tree, Guard your family from exposure to this list at all costs! -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From kg5u@hal-pc.org Wed Feb 10 03:02:56 1999 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L. Martin) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:02:56 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] TR Keyboard overlay Message-ID: <001801be54a1$dfd998c0$1581b4ce@kg5u.hal-pc.org> >Thanks to Dale, KG5U, here it is. I'm not sure if the attached file will > I would like to give proper credit where credit is due: The overlay came from N5TJ. I just modified it a bit. 73, dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ki7mn@extremezone.com Tue Feb 9 20:20:53 1999 From: ki7mn@extremezone.com (Bob Hightower) Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:20:53 +0000 Subject: [TRLog] FTP Site for config.dat files? Message-ID: <199902100321.UAA29827@enterprise.extremezone.com> I believe I saw a note about posting config.dat files to an ftp site, but blew it away without thinking. Is there such a site, and would someone please send me the info on it? Thanks. 72,73 Bob Hightower KI7MN Chandler, AZ DM43BI http://www.extremezone.com/~ki7mn -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Wed Feb 10 06:31:56 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:31:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] TR Log Manual Message-ID: <199902100631.WAA19796@user2.teleport.com> Hi Gang- Wow. I figured I would be lucky to get one or two applicants for the manual job. Instead, I received 12 of them, and most of them were well qualified to convince me that technical writing isn't in my future. It was a very difficult choice as each candidate had some really strong points. Do I go with someone who has lots of experience with the program, or someone who isn't as familar with it and can view the program more as the first time user... hard choices. Several of the applicants have sent me drafts of re-written manuals. However, it was necessary to pick one person to take ownership of the manual, and we have chosen Doc Evans, N7DR (ex NQ0I). Doc will focus on updating the existing manual before Dayton so it will be current. He won't take the scalpel to it until after it is updated. For those of you who have forwarded me comments on the manual, I will be forwarding your input to Doc for his consideration. I simply don't have the bandwidth to even think about the manual much and need to stop worrying about it and focus on the areas I can provide the most value (the program). I would like to thank all of those who applied for the position. This is one great group of people!! Concerning the program, I have been very QRL doing the ARRL SS log checking. This consumed most of my spare time during the month of January. The new software package is all done and the CW results are completed. I am just starting the do the phone logs, but since the software is all there, it shouldn't take more than a week. Once this is out of my hair, I will start fixing the recent POST bugs and making the "Dayton" push so I can impress everyone with all the new features I have added. Thanks for your patience. 73 Tree N6TR tree@contesting.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From kg5u@hal-pc.org Wed Feb 10 13:01:20 1999 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L. Martin) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:01:20 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] TR Log Manual Message-ID: <000b01be54f5$75feb4e0$3980b4ce@kg5u.hal-pc.org> >the CW results >are completed. well???? Aren't we special and entitled to a peek? :-) just kidding... dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n2um@rpa.net Wed Feb 10 18:55:15 1999 From: n2um@rpa.net (N2UM) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:55:15 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Icom IC-746 Interface Message-ID: <36C1D613.2F22@rpa.net> Hi, I just received a new Icom IC-746 tranceiver that I'm trying to interface to the computer. I know that the W1GEE interface that I'm using is working because it works just fine with Logeqf. What's happening is that the frequency is displayed in TR but is slow to react and disappears after a few seconds. I am unable to change bands from the keyboard and it doesn't react to Band Map actions either. I've tried several baud rates and several different radio types, radio updates, Icom command pauses and Icom response timeouts. I have not tried radio one receiver address changes because I don't what to change it to but whatever I have it set to now it seems to see the radio as evidence of the frequency readout. Any ideas would certainly be appreciated! Thanks, Gary /N2UM PS Yes...the radio is really awesome! -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From hwardsil@WOLFENET.com Wed Feb 10 14:36:49 1999 From: hwardsil@WOLFENET.com (Ward Silver) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 06:36:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] TRLog saving house In-Reply-To: <199902091949_MC2-69E8-E648@compuserve.com> Message-ID: > I think this heroic story will help start a whole new wish list category. Let's see...new features in TR-2000: TR DOGWALK TR CATBOXEMPTY TR OILCHANGE TR TELEMARKETER_DISPATCH TR GETPAPER TR GOTOTHESTORE TR CHECKHOMEWORK Where do I sign up? 73, Ward N0AX -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k2av@qsl.net Wed Feb 10 15:54:14 1999 From: k2av@qsl.net (Guy Olinger, K2AV) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:54:14 GMT Subject: [TRLog] Icom IC-746 Interface In-Reply-To: <36C1D613.2F22@rpa.net> References: <36C1D613.2F22@rpa.net> Message-ID: <36c1ab68.418116059@mailhost.unx.sas.com> What baud rate are you running on the serial port when you are running TR? On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:55:15 -0500, N2UM wrote: > >Hi, > I just received a new Icom IC-746 tranceiver that I'm trying to >interface to the computer. I know that the W1GEE interface that I'm >using is working because it works just fine with Logeqf. What's >happening is that the frequency is displayed in TR but is slow to react >and disappears after a few seconds. I am unable to change bands from the >keyboard and it doesn't react to Band Map actions either. I've tried >several baud rates and several different radio types, radio updates, Icom >command pauses and Icom response timeouts. I have not tried radio one >receiver address changes because I don't what to change it to but >whatever I have it set to now it seems to see the radio as evidence of >the frequency readout. > > Any ideas would certainly be appreciated! > >Thanks, Gary /N2UM > >PS Yes...the radio is really awesome! Guy L. Olinger k2av@qsl.net Apex, NC, USA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n2um@rpa.net Wed Feb 10 22:46:52 1999 From: n2um@rpa.net (N2UM) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:46:52 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Icom IC-746 Interface References: <36C1D613.2F22@rpa.net> <36c1ab68.418116059@mailhost.unx.sas.com> Message-ID: <36C20C5C.263D@rpa.net> I've tried several baud rates but 4800 is the one that works, at least partially. Gary Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote: > > What baud rate are you running on the serial port when you are running > TR? > > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:55:15 -0500, N2UM wrote: > > > > >Hi, > > I just received a new Icom IC-746 tranceiver that I'm trying to > >interface to the computer. I know that the W1GEE interface that I'm > >using is working because it works just fine with Logeqf. What's > >happening is that the frequency is displayed in TR but is slow to react > >and disappears after a few seconds. I am unable to change bands from the > >keyboard and it doesn't react to Band Map actions either. I've tried > >several baud rates and several different radio types, radio updates, Icom > >command pauses and Icom response timeouts. I have not tried radio one > >receiver address changes because I don't what to change it to but > >whatever I have it set to now it seems to see the radio as evidence of > >the frequency readout. > > > > Any ideas would certainly be appreciated! > > > >Thanks, Gary /N2UM > > > >PS Yes...the radio is really awesome! > > Guy L. Olinger > k2av@qsl.net > Apex, NC, USA > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html > Submissions: trlog@contesting.com > Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com > Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From kg5u@hal-pc.org Thu Feb 11 02:25:38 1999 From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale L. Martin) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:25:38 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] TRLog saving house Message-ID: <004b01be5565$d55c33c0$0680b4ce@kg5u.hal-pc.org> DISABLE NEIGHBOR'S TV = TRUE - dale, kg5u -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From swca@ionet.net Thu Feb 11 10:37:58 1999 From: swca@ionet.net (swca@ionet.net) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 04:37:58 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] TRLog saving house In-Reply-To: <004b01be5565$d55c33c0$0680b4ce@kg5u.hal-pc.org> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19990211043758.0074c144@ionet.net> >DISABLE NEIGHBOR'S TV = TRUE This is the problem with your out-of-date manuals, Tree. Nowhere is THIS new feature documented. Good thing I read this reflector. Out of curiosity, what is the default value? Mark, N5OT -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From w8tts@gwis.com Thu Feb 11 21:21:30 1999 From: w8tts@gwis.com (Ted Sarah) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:21:30 +0000 Subject: [TRLog] TRLog saving house References: <3.0.2.32.19990211043758.0074c144@ionet.net> Message-ID: <36C349DA.A95EE892@gwis.com> The default is: DISABLE NEIGHBOR'S TV = DISTRUCT swca@ionet.net wrote: > >DISABLE NEIGHBOR'S TV = TRUE > > This is the problem with your out-of-date manuals, Tree. Nowhere is THIS > new feature documented. Good thing I read this reflector. Out of > curiosity, what is the default value? > > Mark, N5OT > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html > Submissions: trlog@contesting.com > Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com > Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- 73 - Ted - W8TTS e-mail: w8tts@gwis.com or w8tts@qsl.net Check out my home page: http://w3.gwis.com/~tsarah/ham.htm -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From kk7gw@wa.freei.net Thu Feb 11 21:40:09 1999 From: kk7gw@wa.freei.net (David Jones) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:40:09 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] TR, Win95, and recording Message-ID: <199902112138.NAA97221@mail.wa.freei.net> This might be informative to all TR users, so I thought I'd post it here as well. This deals with not just TR in a win95 box, but recording rig audio as well, so you have been warned, hit the delete key if that doesn't interest you. I am trying to record the CW sprint this Saturday, using Sagebrush's RecAll Pro, and of course, TR. Can record just fine, even saved some samples of some EU stuff on 40 a couple nights ago. I'm working on running TR in a Win95 box, and here's where I am so far. Computer is a HP Celeron 266, with 80 MB of RAM. TR seems to run fairly well in a full-screen Win95 DOS prompt. The only thing I notice CW timing wise is that if you haven't sent anything for a period (seems to be somewhere in the area of 45 seconds to a minute) that when you next send something (F-keys, enter, etc) the result is that the first character gets extended, like dahhhhhdidah. Not that much of a problem, really. Then I starting recording with RecAll Pro in the background, and TR in the foreground. Again, TR ran pretty well, I hit F1 several times, switched to the paddle to simulate a response, and went through 10-15 sprint q's that way. After doing that, I went and played back the recording. Seems fine except every 10-15 seconds or so there is a glitch (probably due to the DOS/W95 timing issues) where a few characters get skipped on the recording. You'll hear KKGW or K7GW or KK7W or stuff like that on the recording. In conclusion, my best bet is probably to get another VGA monitor, and run TR on my 386 with no monitor, and record on the win95 computer. See you all in the sprint! 73 David Jones, KK7GW kk7gw@wa.freei.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ingemar.fogelberg@swipnet.se Thu Feb 11 20:18:29 1999 From: ingemar.fogelberg@swipnet.se (Ingemar Fogelberg) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:18:29 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] CQ160 CW some experience Message-ID: <36C33B14.1A3B17F0@swipnet.se> At SM5HJZ we used TRLOG 6.35 during the CQ160 CW contest. The setup was one PC for RUN and one for MULTI-station networked together. We also had a packet connection on the RUN-PC. We had some trouble with the MULTI-PC which ended up freezed. We had to reboot a couple of times. Don't know why. We even change PC during the contest, but the problem remained. Maybe it was RFI...? Some other issues: COMPUTER ID The computer ID is not shown in log if comments (Ctrl-N) are added during Auto-CQ. Computer ID would be nice to have in the INTERCOM.TXT file. CQ160 Not logging literal QTH for DX is still confusing for some operators. I have mentioned this a couple of times before. With our setup it didn't matter what we entered. TRLOG filled in prefix instead.I still think it would be nice if TRLOG could keep whatever the op is entering as country ID. SCORE Sometimes the score went to zero points during a long time. Rather confusing and depressing during slow hours :-) PACKET SPOTS IN BAND MAP Is it possible to mark packet spots in the band map in order to see entries comming from PACKET. Maybe you can use lower case letter? BAND MAP AND S&P Sometimes when you are doing S&P and are tuning in to a frequency that have a band map entry, the call won't show up automatically in the CALL window. Am I doing something wrong or is this a minor bug? 73 and thanks for a Great Program! Ingo, SM5AJV -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From darietz@rietz.com Fri Feb 12 14:20:38 1999 From: darietz@rietz.com (Dave Rietz) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:20:38 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] interface IC765 Message-ID: <36C438B6.12303400@rietz.com> Hello all, does anyone have info as to why IC765 won't show up on interface with ver 6.35? actually I have never seemed to get this radio to work with TR LOG, I have it working with CT9 hooked up the same way. Am I missing something somewhere?? Thanks de K6RC Dave -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k4ro@k4ro.net Sat Feb 13 15:12:23 1999 From: k4ro@k4ro.net (K4RO Kirk Pickering) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:12:23 -0600 (CST) Subject: [TRLog] interface IC765 Message-ID: <199902131512.JAA14751@isd7.tdec.state.tn.us> > does anyone have info as to why IC765 won't show up on interface > with ver 6.35? actually I have never seemed to get this radio to > work with TR LOG, I have it working with CT9 hooked up the same way. > Am I missing something somewhere?? 1) Make sure your TRANSCIEVE DIP switch in the radio is OFF. 2) Try the following LOGCFG.DAT entry, substituting your serial port: ; ================== Begin radio interface parameters ===================== RADIO ONE CONTROL PORT = SERIAL 3 RADIO ONE BAUD RATE = 1200 RADIO ONE TYPE = IC765 RADIO ONE RECEIVER ADDRESS = 44 ICOM COMMAND PAUSE = 200 ICOM RESPONSE TIMEOUT = 100 ASK FOR FREQUENCIES = FALSE ; ================== End radio interface parameters ===================== -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com Sun Feb 14 12:10:56 1999 From: Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com (Clive Whelan) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 07:10:56 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Exchange formats Message-ID: <199902140711_MC2-6A70-D449@compuserve.com> Hi list I decided almost on the spur of the moment - never a good idea I realise- to have an outing in the RSGB 1.8Mhz contest last evening ( Saturday). The exchange is RST, serial number, and district code,so in my case my first exchange sent is 599 001 CF and so on. So I chose RST QSO NUMBER AND DOMESTIC QTH as the format for the exchange. I then realised that non G stations would only send me RST QSO number.Since TR won't score the contest anyway, I entered a dummy code of xx for "DX" stations. To my horror I then realised that in the concurrent PACC contest I would only get RST and AREA code from PA stations. Thus I then entered a dummy QSO number of 1 for all PA stations. My log is now as messy as Monica's dress! This morning, looking at the manual, I can't see how else I could have configured the exchange. I note that fellow TR users G0IVZ and GM3POI, were in there batting, so mebbe they solved the problem? Suggestions welcome 73 Clive GW3NJW Clive Whelan clive_whelan@compuserve.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From jan.fisher@virgin.net Sun Feb 14 15:23:04 1999 From: jan.fisher@virgin.net (Jan Fisher) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:23:04 -0000 Subject: [TRLog] help - qsl mode Hi all, I have just been sorting out my config file for the ARRL DX contest and have a small problem with the QSL mode. I would like to set the QSL mode to QSL BUT NO LOG MODE but when I set this I get the following. Enter call and hit return - call and exchange info sent as normal Cursor is positioned in the exchange window automatically Hit return to qsl with no info in exchange - qsl is sent ok with message up to prompt the exchange info to be filled. Fill the state info into the exchange window and hit return - Call of station is sent rather than the keyer remaining silent. If I enter part of the exchange and hit return the programme works fine with a prompt for the correct info and then just logging the fix without sending anything. Am I missing something or is this a small bug. Jan G0IVZ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From OZ5RM@city.dk Sun Feb 14 13:03:14 1999 From: OZ5RM@city.dk (R. Meilstrup) Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:03:14 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Sv: TRLog Digest V2 #32 Message-ID: <002101be58fe$4556b380$430ef2d4@default> I'm using TR Log /IC-765 and profited by suggestions similiar to those given by K4RO. However, I found no difference whether or not the transceive dip switch was on or off so I left it where it was originally. But I set the radio to communicate with the program at 4800 Baud. It's my impression that the IC-765 works best this way. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From lu5cw@geocities.com Mon Feb 15 16:55:07 1999 From: lu5cw@geocities.com (LU5CW Ernesto Grueneberg) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:55:07 -0300 Subject: [TRLog] TRLog saving house In-Reply-To: <199902091949_MC2-69E8-E648@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <000801be5903$f1165860$af142ac8@pete> How about DISABLE FLARE = TRUE SOLAR FLUX = 300 Ernesto Grueneberg - LU5CW (ex LU2BRG & LU6BEG) < mailto:lu5cw@geocities.com> LU5CW homepage < http://pagina.de/lu5cw> LT1F homepage: � > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-trlog@contesting.com [mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com]On > Behalf Of James P. Cassidy > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 9:49 PM > To: TRLOG Reflector > Subject: [TRLog] TRLog saving house > > > > I think this heroic story will help start a whole new wish list category. > Valuable side effects of TR: > Sump timing > Garage Door opening/closing > Tower raising/lowering > Various security system functions > Kitchen uses during tests, pre and post test > DVK telephone answering > etc, > 73 Jim KI7Y > > Tree, Guard your family from exposure to this list at all costs! > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html > Submissions: trlog@contesting.com > Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com > Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com Mon Feb 15 19:41:04 1999 From: Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com (Clive Whelan) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:41:04 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] help - qsl mode Message-ID: <199902151441_MC2-6A93-545F@compuserve.com> Hi Jan, << Am I missing something or is this a small bug. >> I note you have had no reply, and I am a relative newbie, but I decided to take a look, and found exactly as you report. I think I have twigged what is happening and how to fix it, albeit at some expense in another area. What seems to be happening is that the prog. is acting as if you had corrected the call in the call window, and is sending the call OK now message, i.e. message n r 1 from the Alt P, O menu which in my case reads } OK %, and thus sends the call from the call window followed by OK, and the name from the database. When I delete that message altogether the keyer is silent after entering the state. However you are then without a "call OK now message", so yer pays yer money an d yer takes yer chance :-(( However perhaps I am missing something too. Clearly we need Tree's expertise here. 73 Clive GW3NJW Clive Whelan clive_whelan@compuserve.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From sdelling@facstaff.wisc.edu Mon Feb 15 20:07:30 1999 From: sdelling@facstaff.wisc.edu (Scott Ellington) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:07:30 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] Sprint Mode Changes Message-ID: <36C87E81.F70F44CE@facstaff.wisc.edu> Did anyone else experience unexpected changes to SAP mode when using the function keys to send cw? (No, I don't have the mode change in the message.) Happened inconsistently. I'm a few versions behind, but I don't recall anything in the release notes for the later versions. 73, Scott K9MA -- Scott Ellington sdelling@facstaff.wisc.edu Madison, Wisconsin USA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From N7DR@arrl.net Tue Feb 16 00:48:24 1999 From: N7DR@arrl.net (D. R. Evans) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:48:24 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] Manual Message-ID: Just so that people know what's going to be happening with the manual. I shall be working on it with the following priority: 1. Bring it up to date; 2. Fix the errors; 3. Completely revise and expand it. George is putting a link on the TR home page that will allow you to download the current version (it will be in PDF format; you can read and print this format using the free Adobe Acrobat Reader, which can be obtained from www.adobe.com and numerous other places; the current version is, I think, 3.01.) The current latest version of the manual is for TR 6.27. I shall post an announcement here whenever it changes. Doc -- N7DR ---------------------------------------------------------- D.R. Evans N7DR / G4AMJ N7DR@arrl.net "Palindor Chronicles" information and extracts: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR/drevans.htp ---------------------------------------------------------- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From oh1hs@kolumbus.fi Tue Feb 16 07:20:32 1999 From: oh1hs@kolumbus.fi (Hannu Saila) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:20:32 +0200 (EET) Subject: [TRLog] ARRL - abbreviations Message-ID: <199902160720.JAA22675@mail3.kolumbus.fi> Hello I will be active in the ARRL-contest CW and I was practising a bit TR for the contest. I did noticed that the program does log all canadian provinces as VE1, VE2.... and not in the form that I did took them. Is this OK in ARRL or do I have to modify the DOM-file? Hannu - OH3WW (also OH1HS) -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From kl7ra@icefog.gcgo.nasa.gov Tue Feb 16 09:21:52 1999 From: kl7ra@icefog.gcgo.nasa.gov (KL7RA Fairbanks Alaska) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 99 09:21:52 utc Subject: [TRLog] POST qsl option S Message-ID: <28163@icefog.gcgo.nasa.gov> I recently tried using TRLog POST qsl labels for answering bureau qsl cards again. My past experience was such that it seemed I could fill out cards a lot faster by hand then fussing with the labels and the problems of printing them, etc. I was not able to find the Avery 4410 labels mentioned in the manual. Even a search of Avery Dennison web site product list does not give a match for that number. I made a test sheet printout using the POST qsl label program with the HP officeJet printer. I was able to find a good spacing match at our local office supplies store to the Avery 5261 laser labels. They work well. Although the instructions say to load one label page at a time on top of a 25 sheet stack of paper I was able to load multiple sheets. For this OfficeJet printer they are loaded upsidedown and then rotated 180 degrees after printing the first side. I used a spacing of 7. I know the Post program is low priority, but it would be nice someday, while answering incoming bureau cards, for the "qsl selected stations (S)" option to do the following: 1. "Beep" when it's ready for a new call sign. I tend to bust labels as multi QSOs for the same station comes up and I'm on a roll going to the next card in the stack instead of skipping through the multiple entries. I guess it should be a "switch cmd" for the beep haters. 2. Jump back to "input call" after the pgm receives a report entry. For example when typing in K7RAT for a 160 meter qso I have to skip a lot of entries until it finds the right one. After I enter the report there is no need to continue looking. 3. Maybe the space bar could be "skip" and the return key fill in the RST report from the log entry. 4. While inside the POST "qsl selected stations" shell have a few search options to look for calls that fail to return a log entry. (((not that it ever has happen to me!!!))) 5, Have a second data base that stores the call/band/mode information to prevent duplicate qsling. This might be a "print qsl label anyway?" command. I am trying to reach 500 cards sent to W8AH. 6. Have a Avery label selection to chose from for different printers. I think I'm pushing my luck...but anything to ease this never ending qsl flow. 73 Rich KL7RA p.s. The first qsl print shop that will except the TRLog qsl label file and add the label data as the cards are printed will have by business forever. The above comments are for TRLog POST utility program. Comments on qsling contest QSOs in general would not be appropriate for this reflector... -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Feb 16 14:01:25 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 06:01:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] ARRL - abbreviations Message-ID: <199902161401.GAA16387@user2.teleport.com> > I will be active in the ARRL-contest CW and I was practising a bit > TR for the contest. > I did noticed that the program does log all canadian provinces as > VE1, VE2.... and not in the form that I did took them. Is this OK in > ARRL or do I have to modify the DOM-file? This is okay the way it is. However, if you would prefer for it to log them the way you enter them, set LITERIAL DOMESTIC QTH to TRUE in the Control-J menu. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ad1c@contesting.com Tue Feb 16 17:15:47 1999 From: ad1c@contesting.com (Jim Reisert) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:15:47 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Country file update for CT/NA/TR There will be a country file update for CT/NA/TR some time this evening, after about 04Z on the 17th. I will send an announcement to CQ-Contest and all the logging reflectors. There will be no master callsign database update, the one from last October is the most current file. 73 - Jim AD1C -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From N7DR@arrl.net Tue Feb 16 19:55:00 1999 From: N7DR@arrl.net (D. R. Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:55:00 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] Manual 6.30 Message-ID: The manual for TR 6.30 is now available. Most people should not bother getting it since it should be updated to later versions of TR soon (in the next few days). The main reason I put this one up is to ask if someone whose native paper size is A4 could please print a few pages and let me know if resizing the margins has made the manual at least legible on A4 paper. If not, please describe the problem. Doc N7DR ---------------------------------------------------------- D.R. Evans N7DR / G4AMJ N7DR@arrl.net "Palindor Chronicles" information and extracts: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR/drevans.htp ---------------------------------------------------------- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ingemar.fogelberg@swipnet.se Tue Feb 16 22:08:54 1999 From: ingemar.fogelberg@swipnet.se (Ingemar Fogelberg) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:08:54 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Manual 6.30 References: Message-ID: <36C9EC75.3056488E@swipnet.se> I tried to print a few pages of the manual in A4 paper size and I think it worked. The margin was enough to put holes on the left for a binder. Very good! Before I had to adjust the manual in Word before printing ending up with an index in error. 73 de Ingo, SM5AJV D. R. Evans skrev: > The manual for TR 6.30 is now available. Most people should not bother > getting it since it should be updated to later versions of TR soon (in the > next few days). > > The main reason I put this one up is to ask if someone whose native paper > size is A4 could please print a few pages and let me know if resizing the > margins has made the manual at least legible on A4 paper. If not, please > describe the problem. > > Doc N7DR > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > D.R. Evans N7DR / G4AMJ N7DR@arrl.net > > "Palindor Chronicles" information and extracts: > http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR/drevans.htp > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html > Submissions: trlog@contesting.com > Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com > Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com Wed Feb 17 00:14:05 1999 From: Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com (Clive Whelan) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:14:05 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Manual 6.30 Message-ID: <199902161914_MC2-6AB7-F65B@compuserve.com> D., << if resizing the margins has made the manual at least legible on A4 paper. If not, please describe the problem. >> It printed perfectly on A4 previously, it was just that the page numbers were screwed up, making the index useless. Perhaps you could include hard page commands i f you've not already done so? 73 Clive Clive Whelan clive_whelan@compuserve.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From jjreisert@alum.mit.edu Wed Feb 17 04:31:23 1999 From: jjreisert@alum.mit.edu (Jim Reisert AD1C) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:31:23 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Country file update 16 February 1999 The country files for CT/NA/TR/WL have been updated. They can be found at: http://www.contesting.com/ct/files/#cty Or send a message to ct-user-REQUEST@contesting.com with a line like: GET cty.dat in the message body. I have E-mailed the new COUNTRY.DAT for NA to K8CC to upload to their web page. The release notes are attached. Note that if you use CTYHDG, a new .PRE file is included which contains E4/Palestine. 73 - Jim AD1C 16 February 1999 (CTY-901) o Added BM9P, BN9P, BO9P, BP9P, BQ9P, BU9P, BW9P and BX9P to prefix list for Pratas, BV9P. o Added country Palestine, E4. o Added TX8 to prefix list for New Caledonia, FK. Removed other TX8 callsigns, and removed TX from prefix list for French Guyana, FY. o Add FO0AWI/A and FO0XUU/A to callsign list for Australs, FO/A. o Add FO0AWI/M and FO0XUU/M to callsign list for Marquesas, FO/M. o Added K7CMZ in Zone 5, WO4O in Zone 4, K5ZM in Zone 3 and KG6OK in Zone 3 to callsign list for United States, K. o Removed all KG6 calls except KG6SL from Marianas, KH0. o Removed all KG6 calls except KG6ASO from Guam, KH2. o Added RY2 to prefix list for Kaliningrad, UA2. o Added RY8, RY9 and RY0 to prefix list for Asiatic Russia, UA0. o Added VE2/N6ZZ and VE2AE in Zone 2 to callsign list for Canada, VE. -- Jim Reisert AD1C http://jjr.ne.mediaone.net/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From gunnar.unger@mailbox.swipnet.se Wed Feb 17 09:37:06 1999 From: gunnar.unger@mailbox.swipnet.se (Gunnar Unger) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:37:06 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Manual 6.30 Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990217103706.008539a0@mailbox.swipnet.se> I printed pages 1-5 and 42-45 on size A4. Table of Contents all OK. The first chapter 1.0 seems ok. Chapter 5.7 does not start on the top of the page, the same goes for 5.7, 5.8 and 5.9. But I don�t know if that was your intention.... Regards Gunnar, SM5AAY -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com Thu Feb 18 00:22:57 1999 From: Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com (Clive Whelan) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:22:57 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Bounced mail Message-ID: <199902171923_MC2-6ADD-3B28@compuserve.com> ********FOR DL2ZAV************** Udo I have tried to reply to you direct to your return address of dl2zav@qsl.net which is returned as " service unavailable". I have some info. for you on exchange formats, can you mail me again and check your mail server? 73 Clive GW3NJW Written Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:09 email(primary) clive_whelan@compuserve.com email(alternative) clive@whelan.prestel.co.uk Web http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/whelan/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From w4au@contesting.com Thu Feb 18 15:54:05 1999 From: w4au@contesting.com (John Unger) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 10:54:05 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] *'s in log.dat file Message-ID: <199902181558.KAA09175@mailrvag2.er.usgs.GOV> TRLog adds an * symbol between the callsign and the sent report for some QSO's in the log.dat file. I think that it does this when the callsign has a name in the trmaster or names database. Is there a way to turn off this "feature"? I occasionally like to sort my log.dat files on fields that are part of the exchange, and the * messes things up. My current solution is to put the file in an editor an and delete the *'s, but it would be nice just to not record the *'s at all. tnx - John, W4AU -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ladislav.szatmari@st.sk Fri Feb 19 12:50:06 1999 From: ladislav.szatmari@st.sk (ladislav.szatmari@st.sk) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:50:06 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Manual 6.30 Message-ID: <8F95FAFEF9CED111B4710060084618790BD0C0@osmn401.rtss.st.sk> I printed a few pages - all seems ok. Appendix A has a different fonts: from page 62 to 66 -normal from page 66 -bold 73! Larry,OM7ARC > -----P�vodn� zpr�va----- > Od: D. R. Evans [SMTP:N7DR@arrl.net] > Odesl�no: 16. febru�r 1999 20:55 > Komu: trlog@contesting.com > P�edm�t: [TRLog] Manual 6.30 > > > The manual for TR 6.30 is now available. Most people should not bother > > getting it since it should be updated to later versions of TR soon (in > the > next few days). > > The main reason I put this one up is to ask if someone whose native > paper > size is A4 could please print a few pages and let me know if resizing > the > margins has made the manual at least legible on A4 paper. If not, > please > describe the problem. > > Doc N7DR > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > D.R. Evans N7DR / G4AMJ N7DR@arrl.net > > "Palindor Chronicles" information and extracts: > http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR/drevans.htp > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html > Submissions: trlog@contesting.com > Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com > Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From N7DR@arrl.net Fri Feb 19 20:52:25 1999 From: N7DR@arrl.net (D. R. Evans) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:52:25 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] Manual 6.32 Message-ID: I have uploaded a new version of the manual, synchronised to TR version 6.32. Because the PDF file is so large (it's generated with options set to "maximum portability") I've also included a ZIPped version of the same file. I expect that George will make both versions available on the TR home page as soon as he has the time to do so. As before, this is very much an interim manual; a work-in-progress. Please do not tell me about formatting errors, weird font changes, etc. because I'll be getting to those later (unless the manual simply doesn't print properly! I want to know if that happens!). But I'd be interested in any factual errors in the manual. I'm hoping that I'll be synchronised with the current release of TR in the next ten days or so, and after that I'll start fixing the errors. This would probably also be a good time for people to let me know if they'd like to see any new sections or expansions to the current sections. I have my own ideas about this, but I'd be interested in other people's thoughts and comments. Doc N7DR ---------------------------------------------------------- D.R. Evans N7DR / G4AMJ N7DR@arrl.net "Palindor Chronicles" information and extracts: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR/drevans.htp ---------------------------------------------------------- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Simon Wilson" Hi Larry et al, I am (for my sins) the contest manager for the Mimram contest group - G0SAH's mob, so it now falls to me to setup TR for each event we do. We are entering an RSGB contest weekend after next on 7mhz, but it has a rather odd scoring system. I would like to score on the fly but can't see just how to do it from the documentation. Can you give me some pointers please. Here is the scoring. Own country - NIL points. Europe - 5 points Americas, Africa and Asia - 15 points Oceania - 30 points. I believe I can achieve this through the .DOM file, but I can't see it. Thanks in advance. Simon Wilson M0BOX m0box@qsl.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From jefray" Hey Gang - Seems like Tree has been awarded the January QST Cover plaque! Congratulations Tree! Snipped from ARRL Letter Vol 18, No 8: * QST Cover Plaque Award: Larry Tyree, N6TR, received the January QST Cover Plaque Award for his article, "Kid's Day!" Congratulations, Tree! -73- Jerry N9TU http://www.si-net.com/~jefray/homepage.htm "We shall not go quietly into the RF" - Isard, July 98 HJ4F S.M.A.R.T 98-10 FISTS CW Club # 2176 dit dit -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n0lxx@uswest.net Sat Feb 20 02:08:42 1999 From: n0lxx@uswest.net (Mark Frilseth) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:08:42 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] Manual 6.32 References: Message-ID: <36CE192A.EAA15FAA@uswest.net> Well... I just hit the TR Log web site... It's not available as of yet in PDF format. Mark Frilseth N0LXX P.S. I just purchased the program off the web yesterday. Just waiting for it to show up in my E-Mail box now..... ------------------------------------------ "D. R. Evans" wrote: > I have uploaded a new version of the manual, synchronised to TR version > 6.32. > > Because the PDF file is so large (it's generated with options set to > "maximum portability") I've also included a ZIPped version of the same > file. I expect that George will make both versions available on the TR home > page as soon as he has the time to do so. > > As before, this is very much an interim manual; a work-in-progress. Please > do not tell me about formatting errors, weird font changes, etc. because > I'll be getting to those later (unless the manual simply doesn't print > properly! I want to know if that happens!). > > But I'd be interested in any factual errors in the manual. I'm hoping that > I'll be synchronised with the current release of TR in the next ten days or > so, and after that I'll start fixing the errors. > > This would probably also be a good time for people to let me know if they'd > like to see any new sections or expansions to the current sections. I have > my own ideas about this, but I'd be interested in other people's thoughts > and comments. > > Doc N7DR > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > D.R. Evans N7DR / G4AMJ N7DR@arrl.net > > "Palindor Chronicles" information and extracts: > http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR/drevans.htp > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html > Submissions: trlog@contesting.com > Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com > Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Sat Feb 20 22:24:57 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 14:24:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] QST Award! Message-ID: <199902202224.OAA19425@user2.teleport.com> > Seems like Tree has been awarded the January QST Cover plaque! > Congratulations Tree! Blush - aw shucks. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From pa3hbi@gironet.nl Sun Feb 21 09:31:43 1999 From: pa3hbi@gironet.nl (Ron van der Velden) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:31:43 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] TR program and pacc contest Message-ID: <36CFD27F.E7CAA683@gironet.nl> Hello, Thanks for all the points in the pacc contest. The program works fine, except for a minor problem. For contesters outside The Netherlands you get filled in the provence if you already work the same call on an otherband, which is fine so you can check if you heard it last time ok and less type work, but if your a dutch station and you work a station for the second or more time I get the prefix in the exchange field, which isn't ok because I need a serial number. Is there a setting between the hunderds of settings, so that I don't get the prefix if I work the same station again on another band????? Thanks PA3HBI Ron van der Velden. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From hremijn@zeelandnet.nl Mon Feb 22 09:30:45 1999 From: hremijn@zeelandnet.nl (Henk Remijn) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:30:45 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] TR program and pacc contest In-Reply-To: <36CFD27F.E7CAA683@gironet.nl> Message-ID: <000201be5e46$069c97c0$0200000a@win95.hremijn.zeelandnet.nl> Exchange Memory Enable = False 73 PA5KT (ex PA3EOB) -----Original Message----- From: owner-trlog@contesting.com [mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Ron van der Velden Sent: zondag 21 februari 1999 10:32 To: TR mailing reflector Subject: [TRLog] TR program and pacc contest Hello, Thanks for all the points in the pacc contest. The program works fine, except for a minor problem. For contesters outside The Netherlands you get filled in the provence if you already work the same call on an otherband, which is fine so you can check if you heard it last time ok and less type work, but if your a dutch station and you work a station for the second or more time I get the prefix in the exchange field, which isn't ok because I need a serial number. Is there a setting between the hunderds of settings, so that I don't get the prefix if I work the same station again on another band????? Thanks PA3HBI Ron van der Velden. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n4wyr@hotmail.com Mon Feb 22 16:58:18 1999 From: n4wyr@hotmail.com (Ron Thomas) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:58:18 PST Subject: [TRLog] [TRLOG] band map time stamp Message-ID: <19990222165823.3463.qmail@hotmail.com> Does the band map read the time stamp from packet cluster spots? I asked for a spot on a particular station, and it sent the last 5 spots, with the most recent first. TR picked up the oldest spot, since it was the last I received. Also, it would be nice if the spots were "pre-aged", so that if I do a SH/DX/15 40, to get the last 15 spots on 40 meters, that they wouldn't all show up as white if some are already almost an hour old. I am running ver 6.36. thanks and 73, Ron N4WYR ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Mon Feb 22 17:56:47 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:56:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] [TRLOG] band map time stamp Message-ID: <199902221756.JAA25653@user2.teleport.com> > Does the band map read the time stamp from packet cluster spots? I > asked for a spot on a particular station, and it sent the last 5 spots, > with the most recent first. TR picked up the oldest spot, since it was > the last I received. Also, it would be nice if the spots were > "pre-aged", so that if I do a SH/DX/15 40, to get the last 15 spots on > 40 meters, that they wouldn't all show up as white if some are already > almost an hour old. I am running ver 6.36. No - it doesn't do that - it just assumes they were recent. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n4zr@contesting.com Mon Feb 22 18:46:52 1999 From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:46:52 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Sending spots to packet cluster TRLog 6.36's bandmap worked beautifully this weekend in concert with my TNC and modified TS-930, but I had one frustration -- I couldn't send spots to the packetcluster using the ['] key, as indicated in the manual and on the help screens. At one point I managed to send a spot from the keyboard (without using Ctl-B) but it was through fat-fingering, and I couldn't figure out how to do it again. Ctl-B worked flawlessly, so the problem wasn't in communications to the TNC. can anyone clue me in? 73, Pete N4ZR Loud is good -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Jack Trampler - N2JT" Pete, In careful inspection of the character you wrote in this e-mail, you have indicated an apostrophe. If you did not mistype in this mail, the problem is you need to use the "backwards" apostrophe. On my keyboard is is in the upper left of the keyboard and is on the same key as the ~ character. I am using 6.36 and had no difficulty with sending spots this weekend. 73, Jack - N2JT n2jt@fast.net n2jt@arrl.net > >TRLog 6.36's bandmap worked beautifully this weekend in concert with my TNC >and modified TS-930, but I had one frustration -- I couldn't send spots to >the packetcluster using the ['] key, as indicated in the manual and on the >help screens. At one point I managed to send a spot from the keyboard >(without using Ctl-B) but it was through fat-fingering, and I couldn't >figure out how to do it again. Ctl-B worked flawlessly, so the problem >wasn't in communications to the TNC. > >can anyone clue me in? > > > >73, Pete N4ZR >Loud is good -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Jack Trampler - N2JT" Hi Gang, Just finished up the ARRL DX contest this past weekend and I've got to tell you, TR worked flawlessly for me. I used to be a CT user (ah, blasphemy) but the more I use TR, the more I love it. Great job, Tree. 73, Jack - N2JT n2jt@fast.net n2jt@arrl.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Mon Feb 22 23:39:16 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:39:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] Sending spots to packet cluster Message-ID: <199902222339.PAA15513@user1.teleport.com> > TRLog 6.36's bandmap worked beautifully this weekend in concert with my TNC > and modified TS-930, but I had one frustration -- I couldn't send spots to > the packetcluster using the ['] key, as indicated in the manual and on the > help screens. At one point I managed to send a spot from the keyboard > (without using Ctl-B) but it was through fat-fingering, and I couldn't > figure out how to do it again. Ctl-B worked flawlessly, so the problem > wasn't in communications to the TNC. > > can anyone clue me in? Hmmm - it worked okay at K7RAT. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ve6jy@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Feb 23 00:07:26 1999 From: ve6jy@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (Don Moman) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:07:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [TRLog] v6.36 in ARRL DX Message-ID: A few minor glitches using v6.36 this past weekend, just curious if others noted anything..... 1. syntax errors in the callsign when I was sure there wasn't one - typing the same call into the exchange field would allow the qso to be logged. This wasn't the usual O instead of 0, or I/1 mistakes. Happened about 6 times..... 2. We had 2 computers networked.... both started with v6.36....The one computer using W95 would abruptly exit back to windows by itself (did it about 3 times in the first 12 hours). Once I was just looking at the screen and it did it. Nothing (other than maybe network traffic) was happening and no RF being transmitted either. I never have RF problems and TR has never exited like this before.... I switched to 6.35 and it did it once more in the last 36 hours. The other computer(DOS 486/DX4-100) never exited abruptly like this. 3. However the 486 did (twice) appear to nearly lock-up - i.e. it generated that long steady tone from it's speaker, but surprisingly we could still log and send CW as normal. After a minute or so the tone quit and everything was OK. I've heard that lock up tone before (not in TR) and it never has solved itself like this.... 4. A couple of times, both computers (using 6.35 or 6.36) would not save to floppy. Said it wasn't ready - but the drive was fine. Reboot and it saved fine, as it did 99% of the time. Not big or frequent issues, but having usually no problems, I'm just curious if the gremlins have moved into my shack or ???? 73 Don VE6JY Don Moman email: ve6jy@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Box 127 Lamont, Alberta email forwarding: ve6jy@rac.ca CANADA T0B 2R0 (780) 895-2925 -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From CPreddy@aol.com Tue Feb 23 01:18:16 1999 From: CPreddy@aol.com (CPreddy@aol.com) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 20:18:16 EST Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues Message-ID: <936806f2.36d201d8@aol.com> After using TR 6.35 this weekend I was reminded of some recent discussion on this reflector concerning the means to exit S&P mode. The biggest problem I had was with the ESC key causing unwanted return to CQ mode. I am now strongly in favor of disabling ESC for this purpose or letting it be a config option. For us pop-guns in contests like ARRL_DX S&P is not a sub-mode of CQ to be ESC'ed from, it is the only viable mode. I found myself developing a conditioned reflex to slam ESC when something went awry, which it did about once an hour. The most common failure came when I used F2 to send the exchange instead of ENTER to also log the contact, usually because I was not completely sure of the info. Sometimes a subsequent ENTER simply logged the contact, while other times it also started to send the exchange again. I was never able to understand the logic for this circumstance. A couple of desperate jabs at ESC and the next guy was likely to get a CQ instead of my call. Ouch. Jab-jab again. Ouch again; sore index finger. Since TAB gets you into S&P, it is logical to have Shift-TAB get you out. I would love to have another key labeled. "Gee, this freq sounds clear. I think I'll try a CQ right now and see what happens" to drop you into CQ mode and start CQ with one stroke. Of course it might be hard to fit the label on a template.. An unrelated issue concerning the smileys for new multipliers: Great new feature, but it sure would be nice to have a way to refresh the screen after new mults are worked. Mis-keys aside, the program worked flawlessly and was a joy to use. I more than doubled my score from last year. OK, maybe sunspots had a little something to do with it� 73 Carl, KU2N -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From jfunk@adams.net Tue Feb 23 05:45:29 1999 From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:45:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: [TRLog] mods? Message-ID: <199902230545.XAA01076@golden.adams.net> This may be something I should know.... Using version 6.15: is there any way to modify the exchange without exiting the program, specifically the F1 and F2 keys in S/P? Using Alt-P, it says these are set in the logcfg.dat file and it doesn't seem to let you change them here? How I ever did a contest without this program is beyond me! Thanks, Jim N9JF "He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Feb 23 07:04:42 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:04:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] mods? Message-ID: <199902230704.XAA24389@user2.teleport.com> > Using version 6.15: is there any way to modify the exchange without exiting > the program, specifically the F1 and F2 keys in S/P? Using Alt-P, it says > these are set in the logcfg.dat file and it doesn't seem to let you change > them here? F1 is fixed. F2 is either S&P EXCHANGE or REPEAT S&P EXCHANGE under Alt-P - O. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Gunnar.Widell@era.ericsson.se Tue Feb 23 08:51:37 1999 From: Gunnar.Widell@era.ericsson.se (Gunnar Widell (ERA)) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:51:37 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Comments SK3GW M/M Message-ID: <5451F06A5297D2118C210008C7A40BFB012FAF1D@esekint104> Yes, > 3. However the 486 did (twice) appear to nearly lock-up - i.e. it > generated that long steady tone from it's speaker, but surprisingly we > could still log and send CW as normal. After a minute or so the tone quit > and everything was OK. I've heard that lock up tone before (not in TR) and > it never has solved itself like this.... > We saw this two times on my toshiba laptop Pentium. Everyting worked fine anyway. We used 3 computers networked at SK3GW in our Multi/Multi effort. No problems exept for the CW keying at high rates. The computers get slow, and delay the CW keying after hitting return. We could see that is was during access to the harddrives. Probably QSOs coming in from the network. This was experienced on all 3 computers, worse was a Toshiba 386 that has a slow HD. Strangely this was also experienced on the Pentium computer (133MHZ). I have heard this was a major problem at SL3ZV M/M in November as well. Think we need to configure a good disk cache program for this. Maybe something for the manual to explain? Other: Missed one QSO on one of the computers during a lock-up. Rebooted immediately, but the QSO was lost on the network in some way. No major problem. Ctrl-N was more used than ", because it the would stay on the screen longer. A feature for "list of frequencies" for the stations in a Multi op would be nice. Nice to have when your moving Wyoming for a new one on three bands... (Exists?) 73 de Gus, SM3SGP @ SK3GW See you from CE3, CE5 and in March/April from DU7. e-mail: Gunnar@Widell.se -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From karber@smart.net Tue Feb 23 12:41:42 1999 From: karber@smart.net (Kevin Arber) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:41:42 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues Message-ID: <199902231241.HAA06453@gemini.smart.net> I am NOT in favor of changing this function. Escape works well for me and I do most of my contesting in the S&P mode. I do not have a problem with the way escape works for any of the functions. 73, Kevin, W3DAD ---------- > From: CPreddy@aol.com > To: trlog@contesting.com > Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues > Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 8:18 PM > > > After using TR 6.35 this weekend I was reminded of some recent discussion on > this reflector concerning the means to exit S&P mode. The biggest problem I > had was with the ESC key causing unwanted return to CQ mode. I am now strongly > in favor of disabling ESC for this purpose or letting it be a config option. > For us pop-guns in contests like ARRL_DX S&P is not a sub-mode of CQ to be > ESC'ed from, it is the only viable mode. I found myself developing a > conditioned reflex to slam ESC when something went awry, which it did about > once an hour. The most common failure came when I used F2 to send the exchange > instead of ENTER to also log the contact, usually because I was not completely > sure of the info. Sometimes a subsequent ENTER simply logged the contact, > while other times it also started to send the exchange again. I was never able > to understand the logic for this circumstance. A couple of desperate jabs at > ESC and the next guy was likely to get a CQ instead of my call. Ouch. Jab-jab > again. Ouch again; sore index finger. Since TAB gets you into S&P, it is > logical to have Shift-TAB get you out. I would love to have another key > labeled. "Gee, this freq sounds clear. I think I'll try a CQ right now and see > what happens" to drop you into CQ mode and start CQ with one stroke. Of course > it might be hard to fit the label on a template.. > > An unrelated issue concerning the smileys for new multipliers: Great new > feature, but it sure would be nice to have a way to refresh the screen after > new mults are worked. Mis-keys aside, the program worked flawlessly and was a > joy to use. I more than doubled my score from last year. OK, maybe sunspots > had a little something to do with it� > > 73 > Carl, KU2N > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html > Submissions: trlog@contesting.com > Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com > Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k2av@qsl.net Tue Feb 23 16:37:10 1999 From: k2av@qsl.net (Guy Olinger, K2AV) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:37:10 GMT Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues In-Reply-To: <199902231241.HAA06453@gemini.smart.net> References: <199902231241.HAA06453@gemini.smart.net> Message-ID: <36d4d8a3.1543746570@mailhost.unx.sas.com> Not a matter of changing it, just allowing an OPTION to change it for those of us who go mad with it. I for one, would exercise the option. Puhleeeze, Tree. Would money help? 73, Guy. On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:41:42 -0500, "Kevin Arber" wrote: > >I am NOT in favor of changing this function. Escape works well for me and >I do most of my contesting in the S&P mode. I do not have a problem with >the way escape works for any of the functions. >73, Kevin, W3DAD > >---------- >> From: CPreddy@aol.com >> To: trlog@contesting.com >> Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues >> Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 8:18 PM >> >> >> After using TR 6.35 this weekend I was reminded of some recent >discussion on >> this reflector concerning the means to exit S&P mode. The biggest >problem I >> had was with the ESC key causing unwanted return to CQ mode. I am now >strongly >> in favor of disabling ESC for this purpose or letting it be a config >option. >> For us pop-guns in contests like ARRL_DX S&P is not a sub-mode of CQ to >be >> ESC'ed from, it is the only viable mode. I found myself developing a >> conditioned reflex to slam ESC when something went awry, which it did >about >> once an hour. The most common failure came when I used F2 to send the >exchange >> instead of ENTER to also log the contact, usually because I was not >completely >> sure of the info. Sometimes a subsequent ENTER simply logged the >contact, >> while other times it also started to send the exchange again. I was >never able >> to understand the logic for this circumstance. A couple of desperate >jabs at >> ESC and the next guy was likely to get a CQ instead of my call. Ouch. >Jab-jab >> again. Ouch again; sore index finger. Since TAB gets you into S&P, it is >> logical to have Shift-TAB get you out. I would love to have another key >> labeled. "Gee, this freq sounds clear. I think I'll try a CQ right now >and see >> what happens" to drop you into CQ mode and start CQ with one stroke. Of >course >> it might be hard to fit the label on a template.. >> >> An unrelated issue concerning the smileys for new multipliers: Great new >> feature, but it sure would be nice to have a way to refresh the screen >after >> new mults are worked. Mis-keys aside, the program worked flawlessly and >was a >> joy to use. I more than doubled my score from last year. OK, maybe >sunspots >> had a little something to do with it� >> >> 73 >> Carl, KU2N >> >> >> -- >> FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >> Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >> Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >> Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >> Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html Guy L. Olinger k2av@qsl.net Apex, NC, USA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Daniel.Violette@West.Boeing.com Tue Feb 23 16:58:55 1999 From: Daniel.Violette@West.Boeing.com (Violette, Daniel R) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:58:55 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues Message-ID: I agree with the ESC issue. I think I may have used it enough by now though (still a part time user) that I finally got out of the habit of hitting ESC more to get it to stop faster. But my biggest break through was CRTL-ENTER. It can become your friend. It logs the QSO without sending anything. I correct my callsign and then send an exchange by paddles and use this to finish up. Dan KI6X > ---------- > From: CPreddy@aol.com[SMTP:CPreddy@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 5:18 PM > To: trlog@contesting.com > Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues > > > After using TR 6.35 this weekend I was reminded of some recent discussion > on > this reflector concerning the means to exit S&P mode. The biggest problem > I > had was with the ESC key causing unwanted return to CQ mode. I am now > strongly > in favor of disabling ESC for this purpose or letting it be a config > option. > For us pop-guns in contests like ARRL_DX S&P is not a sub-mode of CQ to be > ESC'ed from, it is the only viable mode. I found myself developing a > conditioned reflex to slam ESC when something went awry, which it did > about > once an hour. The most common failure came when I used F2 to send the > exchange > instead of ENTER to also log the contact, usually because I was not > completely > sure of the info. Sometimes a subsequent ENTER simply logged the contact, > while other times it also started to send the exchange again. I was never > able > to understand the logic for this circumstance. A couple of desperate jabs > at > ESC and the next guy was likely to get a CQ instead of my call. Ouch. > Jab-jab > again. Ouch again; sore index finger. Since TAB gets you into S&P, it is > logical to have Shift-TAB get you out. I would love to have another key > labeled. "Gee, this freq sounds clear. I think I'll try a CQ right now and > see > what happens" to drop you into CQ mode and start CQ with one stroke. Of > course > it might be hard to fit the label on a template.. > > An unrelated issue concerning the smileys for new multipliers: Great new > feature, but it sure would be nice to have a way to refresh the screen > after > new mults are worked. Mis-keys aside, the program worked flawlessly and > was a > joy to use. I more than doubled my score from last year. OK, maybe > sunspots > had a little something to do with it... > > 73 > Carl, KU2N > > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html > Submissions: trlog@contesting.com > Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com > Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n4wyr@hotmail.com Tue Feb 23 17:04:33 1999 From: n4wyr@hotmail.com (Ron Thomas) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:04:33 PST Subject: [TRLog] Band Map Message-ID: <19990223170433.21697.qmail@hotmail.com> using version 6.36 in General QSO mode 1). After selecting a band map spot that was working split, I selected another band map spot. the transmit frequency didn't reset to the new frequency. So do I have to manually take the rig back to VFO A before selecting a new spot? 2). I can understand deleting a spot when a new one comes in for that station on the same band. but don't DXpeditions and contests run multiple bands at the same time? when a new spot would come in for a station on a different band, the old spot on the previous band would go away. Last night while trying to work the E44DX, spots were continually coming in for several bands. Even if I had a spot selected and the call sign in the call sign window, it would delete the previous spot and erase the call sign window. Ron N4WYR ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Feb 23 17:30:12 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:30:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues Message-ID: <199902231730.JAA20129@user1.teleport.com> > Puhleeeze, Tree. Would money help? Hmm - now there is an idea!! Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n4zr@contesting.com Tue Feb 23 11:32:26 1999 From: n4zr@contesting.com (Pete Smith) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:32:26 +0000 Subject: [TRLog] Sending spots to packet cluster In-Reply-To: <199902222339.PAA15513@user1.teleport.com> Thanks to Tree and everyone else for straightening me out -- I was using the wrong character -- the apostrophe rather than the one under the tilde. Live and learn. BTW, I would love to be able to spot stuff to the cluster without receiving spots, so that I can be a legal single-op but use the band-map and still spot the rare ones for others. Is this do-able in TR as it currently stands, or might it be added? Maybe PACKET SPOTS could have a "none" option? 73, Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr@contesting.com Loud is. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From charlieo@tellabs.com Tue Feb 23 17:47:57 1999 From: charlieo@tellabs.com (charlieo@tellabs.com) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:47:57 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] Sending spots to packet cluster Message-ID: <199902231747.LAA02074@sunf43.tellabs.com> > BTW, I would love to be able to spot stuff to the cluster without receiving > spots, so that I can be a legal single-op but use the band-map and still > spot the rare ones for others. Is this do-able in TR as it currently > stands, or might it be added? Maybe PACKET SPOTS could have a "none" > option? You took the words right out of my mouth.... or should I say "away from my fingers..." This would be a most excellent feature. Although it would bring up issues from others suspecting you of assisted operation, even if you weren't. After all, you'd still have to be logged on to the cluster, and there would be a record of that for the contest period. It could be tough to prove that you weren't receiving the spots, only putting them out. I guess this thread should be moved to cq-contest reflector? 73, Charlie N9CO -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From jfunk@adams.net Tue Feb 23 18:32:29 1999 From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:32:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues Message-ID: <199902231832.MAA12335@golden.adams.net> Yeah, CTRL-ENTER is one of the greatest features. With the paddles in parallel, I probably used C-E a few hundred times during the weekend. Before that, I was always hitting ALT-K or the VOX switch. Not one lockup the entire weekend. 73, Jim N9JF > >I agree with the ESC issue. I think I may have used it enough by now though >(still a part time user) that I finally got out of the habit of hitting ESC >more to get it to stop faster. But my biggest break through was CRTL-ENTER. >It can become your friend. It logs the QSO without sending anything. I >correct my callsign and then send an exchange by paddles and use this to >finish up. > >Dan KI6X > >> ---------- >> From: CPreddy@aol.com[SMTP:CPreddy@aol.com] >> Sent: Monday, February 22, 1999 5:18 PM >> To: trlog@contesting.com >> Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues >> >> >> After using TR 6.35 this weekend I was reminded of some recent discussion >> on >> this reflector concerning the means to exit S&P mode. The biggest problem >> I >> had was with the ESC key causing unwanted return to CQ mode. I am now >> strongly >> in favor of disabling ESC for this purpose or letting it be a config >> option. >> For us pop-guns in contests like ARRL_DX S&P is not a sub-mode of CQ to be >> ESC'ed from, it is the only viable mode. I found myself developing a >> conditioned reflex to slam ESC when something went awry, which it did >> about >> once an hour. The most common failure came when I used F2 to send the >> exchange >> instead of ENTER to also log the contact, usually because I was not >> completely >> sure of the info. Sometimes a subsequent ENTER simply logged the contact, >> while other times it also started to send the exchange again. I was never >> able >> to understand the logic for this circumstance. A couple of desperate jabs >> at >> ESC and the next guy was likely to get a CQ instead of my call. Ouch. >> Jab-jab >> again. Ouch again; sore index finger. Since TAB gets you into S&P, it is >> logical to have Shift-TAB get you out. I would love to have another key >> labeled. "Gee, this freq sounds clear. I think I'll try a CQ right now and >> see >> what happens" to drop you into CQ mode and start CQ with one stroke. Of >> course >> it might be hard to fit the label on a template.. >> >> An unrelated issue concerning the smileys for new multipliers: Great new >> feature, but it sure would be nice to have a way to refresh the screen >> after >> new mults are worked. Mis-keys aside, the program worked flawlessly and >> was a >> joy to use. I more than doubled my score from last year. OK, maybe >> sunspots >> had a little something to do with it... >> >> 73 >> Carl, KU2N >> >> >> -- >> FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >> Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >> Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >> Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >> Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html >> > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > > > "He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From w6knb@toyon.com Tue Feb 23 18:45:04 1999 From: w6knb@toyon.com (Glenn VanBlaricum W6KNB) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:45:04 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] "READ" function Message-ID: <4.1.19990223103945.00f727b0@192.168.0.222> I'm trying to reconstruct some scores from some old contests. I converted some old CT files to TR format, but lost the points per QSO. My reading of the TR manual led me to believe that I could play the file and essentially rework the contest. I tried the command: TR READ TEST.DAT and all that happened is that it started up like a new contest, but did nothing with the old file. Am I doing it wrong or do I just not understand what the manual says? Any help would be appreciated. 73, Glenn W6KNB _________________________________________________________________ Glenn VanBlaricum, W6KNB Phone: 805-967-7523 (home) 5026 Yaple Avenue 805-968-6787 x 135 (office) Santa Barbara, CA 93111 FAX: 805-685-8089 (office) email: w6knb@toyon.com __________________________________________________________________ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From jfunk@adams.net Tue Feb 23 19:13:29 1999 From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:13:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: [TRLog] band map queries Message-ID: <199902231913.NAA13882@golden.adams.net> I think these questions would be moot (I got to say "MOOT"!) if I were using a rig that was totally computer-controlled (i.e. tracks frequencies) but I'm not.... Is there any way to disable the band map on the fly? Without rig interface, can stations in the bandmap have an asterisk added to them once worked without re-entering the call and the frequency? Thanks, Jim N9JF "He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From K8KFJ@aol.com Tue Feb 23 19:39:49 1999 From: K8KFJ@aol.com (K8KFJ@aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:39:49 EST Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues Message-ID: <830e2b1.36d30405@aol.com> In a message dated 2/23/99 11:59:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, KI6X writes: > I correct my callsign and then send an exchange by paddles and use this to > finish up. Why use paddles Dan? I've heard others also indicate they use paddles in conjunction with the software....something I've never understood. Keyboard mode is one keystroke to get in....and one keystroke to exit (nothing could be simplier or faster). Understand, I'm not being critical of your procedures Dan....I'm just trying to satisfy my own curiousity here. If you're truly going to master the software, it seems one must learn to utilize all the software features (not intentionaly circumvent them by going to paddles). There's probably an obvious answer to this that I'm overlooking. Help me out here, OK? 73 //Gary *K8KFJ* West Virginia :-) -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From perb@kuai.se Tue Feb 23 19:44:59 1999 From: perb@kuai.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Per_B=F6rjesson?=) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:44:59 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Problem with Windows98 Message-ID: <00ab01be5f65$010b3580$c3f9c6c3@default> Hallo, I have got a new computer with Windows98. When I installed my version 6.34 it will not work. I got the following message: "TR.EXE is not a valid Win-32programme". What to do ?? /Per SM4SX -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Fatchett.Mike@tci.com Tue Feb 23 19:54:22 1999 From: Fatchett.Mike@tci.com (Fatchett, Mike) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:54:22 -0700 Subject: [TRLog] Problem with Windows98 Message-ID: >>I have got a new computer with Windows98. When I installed my version 6.34 it will not work. I >>got the following message: "TR.EXE is not a valid Win-32programme". What to do ?? It is best to shutdown and start in MS-DOS mode. I have not tried this. Did you? Were you trying run the program in a window? Mike W0MU -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Daniel.Violette@West.Boeing.com Tue Feb 23 19:56:59 1999 From: Daniel.Violette@West.Boeing.com (Violette, Daniel R) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:56:59 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues Message-ID: Here are my reasons for paddles. 1. I am used to jumping to the paddles for fills, I haven't tried the F10 (or is it F12) yet. So it is a comfort factor. 2. I think the paddles are easier to reply with fills because you can have the keyer set a little slower (I use a separate keyer) and can space things out customly (is that a word?). No offense, understand. I have questions about others habits, I guess it is just is whatever works best. I am not a fulltime, hardcore contester so I may do things differently if I was that way. What ended up finally selling me on TR was the S&P features. "CT is a 1-land CQ only mode program". 73, Dan KI6X > ---------- > From: K8KFJ@aol.com[SMTP:K8KFJ@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:39 AM > To: Daniel.Violette@West.Boeing.com > Cc: trlog@contesting.com > Subject: Re: [TRLog] ESC key blues > > In a message dated 2/23/99 11:59:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, KI6X writes: > > > I correct my callsign and then send an exchange by paddles and use this > to > > finish up. > > Why use paddles Dan? I've heard others also indicate they use paddles in > conjunction with the software....something I've never understood. > Keyboard > mode is one keystroke to get in....and one keystroke to exit (nothing > could be > simplier or faster). > > Understand, I'm not being critical of your procedures Dan....I'm just > trying > to satisfy my own curiousity here. If you're truly going to master the > software, it seems one must learn to utilize all the software features > (not > intentionaly circumvent them by going to paddles). > > There's probably an obvious answer to this that I'm overlooking. Help me > out > here, OK? > > 73 //Gary *K8KFJ* > West Virginia :-) > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From geoiii@kkn.net Tue Feb 23 20:56:50 1999 From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:56:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues In-Reply-To: <830e2b1.36d30405@aol.com> from "K8KFJ@aol.com" at Feb 23, 99 02:39:49 pm Message-ID: <199902232056.MAA30057@quito.kkn.net> K8KFJ@aol.com writes: > > Why use paddles Dan? I've heard others also indicate they use paddles in > conjunction with the software....something I've never understood. Keyboard > mode is one keystroke to get in....and one keystroke to exit (nothing could be > simplier or faster). Sending with paddles is simplier and faster. I can just reach for the paddles to stop the CW being sent and startding right NOW the two or three letters I need to send - and at the same time I can type on the keyboard making corrections. I can touch type but I usually find it much faster to send with the paddles than to enter keyboard mode and this does not stop me from doing things in the logging program WHILE I am sending CW - something you can not do if you are in the keyboard CW mode. -- George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have nothing geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. 830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Tue Feb 23 20:12:14 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:12:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] Problem with Windows98 Message-ID: <199902232012.MAA16759@user2.teleport.com> > I have got a new computer with Windows98. When I installed my version 6.34 it will not work. I got the following message: "TR.EXE is not a valid Win-32programme". What to do ?? > People have reported having it working. If all else failes, boot to DOS. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From lrod@pobox.com Tue Feb 23 20:12:08 1999 From: lrod@pobox.com (lrod@pobox.com) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:12:08 +0000 Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues In-Reply-To: <199902232056.MAA30057@quito.kkn.net> References: <830e2b1.36d30405@aol.com> from "K8KFJ@aol.com" at Feb 23, 99 02:39:49 pm Message-ID: <199902232012.OAA26244@mail.xnet.com> > ... and this does not stop me from doing things in the logging program WHILE > I am sending CW - something you can not do if you are in the keyboard CW > mode. Harrrumph! I can't do it no matter what mode... 73, Rod K4QG | It's pronounced | "jig-a-byte" | Look it up. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From joe.carvalho@mci.com Tue Feb 23 20:22:36 1999 From: joe.carvalho@mci.com (Joe Carvalho) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:22:36 -0700 Subject: [TRLog] Problem with Windows98 In-Reply-To: <00ab01be5f65$010b3580$c3f9c6c3@default> Message-ID: <19990223202221.ESTM10255@[166.33.200.179]> I also run 6.34. I launch it in either a DOS window, or boot to DOS. Works fine for me. Are you launching the tr.exe through the explorer? --joe DE KR6NA At 08:44 PM 2/23/99 +0100, Per B�rjesson wrote: > >Hallo, > >I have got a new computer with Windows98. When I installed my version 6.34 it will not work. I got the following message: "TR.EXE is not a valid Win-32programme". What to do ?? > >/Per >SM4SX > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k2av@qsl.net Tue Feb 23 20:57:18 1999 From: k2av@qsl.net (Guy Olinger, K2AV) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:57:18 GMT Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues Message-ID: <36e315e3.1559426616@mailhost.unx.sas.com> On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:56:50 -0800 (PST), George Fremin III wrote: > >K8KFJ@aol.com writes: > >> >> Why use paddles Dan? I've heard others also indicate they use paddles in >> conjunction with the software....something I've never understood. Keyboard >> mode is one keystroke to get in....and one keystroke to exit (nothing could be >> simplier or faster). I've never managed to talk to someone using the keyboard. The itch to hit the paddles is just too ingrained. Don't know if I have enough schmaltz anymore to undo a 43 year-old habit (bug/keyer). When I talk on CW, I talk with my fingertips. I'm not aware of any translation ... it's not a string of letters from one place in my mind going to another to be translated to finger diddles on the paddle, that can be rerouted to the keyboard instead. The CW-talk is in finger-diddles to start with. I don't even think about it. I just do it. I think a lot of pre-computer high speed CW ops are that way. This is one of the many and intriguing ways we are all different. > >Sending with paddles is simplier and faster. For me, it's the only way. I receive on the keyboard. TR knows when I get information done. Either TR sends or I diddle the paddle. > >I can just reach for the paddles to stop the CW being sent >and startding right NOW the two or three letters I need to >send - and at the same time I can type on the keyboard >making corrections. I can touch type but I usually find >it much faster to send with the paddles than to enter >keyboard mode and this does not stop me from doing things >in the logging program WHILE I am sending CW - something you >can not do if you are in the keyboard CW mode. > > >-- > >George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection >Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing >K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have nothing >geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. >830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery >http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr 73, Guy --. .-.. Guy L. Olinger k2av@qsl.net Apex, NC, USA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From scott@purdue.edu" Just so you know, I tried it this afternoon with this weekends log (I wanted to update the log with any changes from the CTY files, which weren't on the computer I was using) and I got the same result. I was running 6.36 on an NT box in a DOS window. --scott N9LJX scott@purdue.edu On Tuesday, February 23, 1999 1:45 PM, Glenn VanBlaricum W6KNB [SMTP:w6knb@toyon.com] wrote: > > I'm trying to reconstruct some scores from some old contests. I converted > some old CT files to TR format, but lost the points per QSO. My reading of > the TR manual led me to believe that I could play the file and essentially > rework the contest. I tried the command: > > TR READ TEST.DAT > > and all that happened is that it started up like a new contest, but did > nothing with the old file. > > Am I doing it wrong or do I just not understand what the manual says? Any > help would be appreciated. > > 73, Glenn W6KNB > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Glenn VanBlaricum, W6KNB Phone: 805-967-7523 (home) > 5026 Yaple Avenue 805-968-6787 x 135 (office) > Santa Barbara, CA 93111 FAX: 805-685-8089 (office) > email: w6knb@toyon.com > __________________________________________________________________ > > -- > FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html > Submissions: trlog@contesting.com > Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com > Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com > Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From jfeustle@uoft02.utoledo.edu Tue Feb 23 20:41:44 1999 From: jfeustle@uoft02.utoledo.edu (jfeustle) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:41:44 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Problem with Windows98 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19990223154144.006b1e30@131.183.1.4> I boot to DOS and run TR-Log from there in Win98. I experienced no problems at all with the program or with it communicating with my transceiver or packet gear. Just wish I would have more time for the contest. 73, Joe, N8JF -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From jfunk@adams.net Tue Feb 23 23:19:20 1999 From: jfunk@adams.net (jim funk) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:19:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: [TRLog] Re: using paddles; was ESC key blues Message-ID: <199902232319.RAA07836@golden.adams.net> Simple reason. The computer can be doing one thing while the keyer is doing something else. Plus, sending by hand helps keep me awake....:) Jim N9JF >In a message dated 2/23/99 11:59:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, KI6X writes: > >> I correct my callsign and then send an exchange by paddles and use this to >> finish up. > >Why use paddles Dan? I've heard others also indicate they use paddles in >conjunction with the software....something I've never understood. Keyboard >mode is one keystroke to get in....and one keystroke to exit (nothing could be >simplier or faster). > >Understand, I'm not being critical of your procedures Dan....I'm just trying >to satisfy my own curiousity here. If you're truly going to master the >software, it seems one must learn to utilize all the software features (not >intentionaly circumvent them by going to paddles). > >There's probably an obvious answer to this that I'm overlooking. Help me out >here, OK? > >73 //Gary *K8KFJ* >West Virginia :-) > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > > > "He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." Jim Elliot -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Jack Trampler - N2JT" Interesting. I am using ver 6.36 with Win98. I run it in a DOS WINDOW (not Real DOS) and have absolutely no problems. Using it with an FT-1000MP and a KAM+. I don't think the version is the problem though, as I have used every version since 6.26 (I think that was my first one) without any conflicts with Win95 or 98. I'd be inclined to think its something with you Win98 configuration. 73, Jack - N2JT n2jt@fast.net n2jt@arrl.net > >Hallo, > >I have got a new computer with Windows98. When I installed my version 6.34 it will not work. I got the following message: "TR.EXE is not a valid Win-32programme". What to do ?? > >/Per >SM4SX -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ve3bbh@interlog.com Wed Feb 24 00:48:47 1999 From: ve3bbh@interlog.com (Paul Hicks, VE3BBH / VE3ZT) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:48:47 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues In-Reply-To: <199902231241.HAA06453@gemini.smart.net> Message-ID: <199902240049.TAA22268@smtp.interlog.com> Ditto for me. 73, Paul, VE3ZT __________________________________ >I am NOT in favor of changing this function. Escape works well for me and >I do most of my contesting in the S&P mode. I do not have a problem with >the way escape works for any of the functions. >73, Kevin, W3DAD -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ae2t@bigfoot.com Wed Feb 24 01:08:01 1999 From: ae2t@bigfoot.com (Al Gritzmacher) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:08:01 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] ESC key blues Message-ID: <2.2.32.19990224010801.00fcb5ac@localnet.com> At 12:56 PM 2/23/99 -0800, George Fremin III wrote: > >K8KFJ@aol.com writes: > >> >> Why use paddles Dan? I've heard others also indicate they use paddles in >> conjunction with the software....something I've never understood. Keyboard >> mode is one keystroke to get in....and one keystroke to exit (nothing could be >> simplier or faster). > >Sending with paddles is simplier and faster. > >I can just reach for the paddles to stop the CW being sent ^^^^^ Yes, but my fingers are ALREADY on the keyboard, no need to reach for anything! I think it's a matter of what is most comfortable for you. I rarely use the paddles in a contest at all anymore. >and starting right NOW the two or three letters I need to >send - and at the same time I can type on the keyboard >making corrections. I can touch type but I usually find >it much faster to send with the paddles than to enter >keyboard mode and this does not stop me from doing things >in the logging program WHILE I am sending CW - something you >can not do if you are in the keyboard CW mode. > > >-- Of course, to do that so that it interrupts TR's sending, it's necessary to use the paddle input, not just merely having a keyer/paddles 'in parallel' with the interface. To me, the paddles are a fall-back for when the computer locks up (rare occurence!) and the paddle interface wouldn't be working anyway. To cover all bases, I would need two sets of paddles! Guess I need to practice one-hand typing while sending CW with the other! I only just discovered I can send left-handed if I do it without thinking about it (and have a reversed set of paddles) so why not learn another talent?!? Just another case of TR's having more than one way to do things to suit every situation or taste! 73, Al AE2T -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From 107770.3462@compuserve.com Wed Feb 24 03:08:21 1999 From: 107770.3462@compuserve.com (James P. Cassidy) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:08:21 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Paddles Message-ID: <199902232208_MC2-6B9E-44B3@compuserve.com> Last weekend we had an unusual RF problem with one computer/key interface, it would randomly key with RF from the 15m transmitter.We it cured by unplugging the paddle, which meant I was forced to use the keyboard for anything I didn't have in the computer. I gained a little skill at sending the minimal info on the keyboard but several times had a tough time getting back from the keyboard CW to the keyboard to enter other info. I attribute most of that to being close top brain dead from lack of sleep. It would have been much better if I had the padles to use. RD filtering is going in the interface asap. One strange thing is that same interface has been used in almost all DX contests since CQWW CW 1997 with absolutely no problem. Go figure. 73 Jim KI7Y -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From dx@traverse.com Wed Feb 24 04:05:31 1999 From: dx@traverse.com (Barry Martz) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:05:31 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Cut Numbers Message-ID: <016901be5faa$ecd95e20$aae48ccf@default> Sri for the bandwidth, and I guess my poor memory. I seem to remember operating (it may have been in ARRL 10 Meter contest) when I typed in the cut numbers (A T etc.) that TRlog logged them as the correct number. This time in the ARRL DX CW contest, it did not do that. It entered A T etc... Am I not remembering right or is this an option I need to set or is it contest specific? Thanks Barry/K8BK K8BK Bay Area DXers Packetcluster W8BAD telnet://tcdx.traverse.com V31TR Page www.traverse.com/people/dx/v31.html -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Wed Feb 24 05:24:55 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:24:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] Cut Numbers Message-ID: <199902240524.VAA07810@user2.teleport.com> > I seem to remember operating (it may have been in ARRL 10 Meter contest) > when I typed in the cut numbers (A T etc.) that > TRlog logged them as the correct number. This time in the ARRL DX CW > contest, it did not do that. It entered A T etc... Am I not remembering > right or is this an option I need to set or is it contest specific? It will do it when it is expecting QSO numbers. However, with the power, it will log what you type so things like KW show up that way, and not like K1 or something. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From K8KFJ@aol.com Wed Feb 24 07:11:12 1999 From: K8KFJ@aol.com (K8KFJ@aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 02:11:12 EST Subject: [TRLog] Re: Paddles vs Keyboard mode Message-ID: <2dba6b6.36d3a610@aol.com> I'd like to thank all those who responded to my initial post. For some, it just seemed more handy to revert to paddles when asking for fills, etc. Others stated it felt more natural to them for them. Yet another group thought their typing speed and accuracy wasn't up to the task of going to keyboard mode at contest speeds. Lastly, there was one poster who has the uncanny ability of sending with the paddles with one hand while preforming logging functions on the keyboard with the other hand. George, you're truly one amazing guy (but heck, we all knew that anyway). :-) I'm afraid I'm in the same category as K4QG on that one tho George. As AE2T so aptly put it "I think it's a matter of what is most comfortable for you". Thanks Al (and to the others who took the time to reply). 73 //Gary *K8KFJ* -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n4wyr@hotmail.com Wed Feb 24 14:36:01 1999 From: n4wyr@hotmail.com (Ron Thomas) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 06:36:01 PST Subject: [TRLog] Band Map Message-ID: <19990224143602.15798.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm at work and don't have the logcfg.dat with me, but the only thing different I've done is the contest name is "GENERAL QSO". I only have a couple of lines in the logcfg.dat, call sign and contest name. The logcfg.dat is in a subdirectory named "general". Everything else that I need, such as port for the rig, and the time zone offset, and my grid square, etc etc is in the stdcfg.dat in my TR directory. and of course I can make Control-J changes "on the fly". It seems to accept pretty much anything I've tried to type in the exchange field, I usually put a signal report, name, and QTH. But I don't have an EXCHANGE statement programmed in my logcfg.dat. The biggest thing to remember is to delete the bandmap.bin file before starting up, so I don't start off with yesterday's bandmap. I usually do a SH/DX command right away, to load the band map with 15 or 20 recent spots, that is where I am running into the problems with older spots overwriting recent ones. since the spots come in reverse chronological order, most recent first, oldest last, and TR uses the last one it gets to overwrite previous ones. I think it works fine for general logging. BTW, the problem with working split and the bandmap seems to be solved by making sure I am on VFO A for both T and R before selecting a new spot from the band map. I made sure I did that last night and had no problems. Ron Thomas N4WYR From: "Bob Lanning" To: "Ron Thomas" Subject: Re: [TRLog] Band Map Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:49:55 -0000 Ron, I'm interested in running TR in QSO mode for general logging. I have fumbled around a bit with it. Do you find it ok for this 'non-contest' mode of operation? Could you send me your logcfg.dat file so I can see how you configured it? 73 Bob W6OPO blanning@ihot.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From otterstad@inet.uni2.dk Wed Feb 24 09:08:57 1999 From: otterstad@inet.uni2.dk (Ragnar Otterstad) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:08:57 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Paddles >Last weekend we had an unusual RF problem with one computer/key interface, >it would randomly key with RF from the 15m transmitter.We it cured by >unplugging the paddle, which meant I was forced to use the keyboard for >anything I didn't have in the computer. I gained a little skill at sending >the minimal info on the keyboard but several times had a tough time getting >back from the keyboard CW to the keyboard to enter other info. I have had a similar situation on 40 meters when beaming at the house. Cured it with ferrite on the cable, closeest possible to the trcvr. 73 Rag OZ8RO -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From N7DR@arrl.net Wed Feb 24 18:15:26 1999 From: N7DR@arrl.net (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:15:26 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] Can't abort CW immediately w/ Esc In-Reply-To: <01BE3E75.9211FA20@as3.easynet.cz> Message-ID: On 12 Jan 99, at 21:26, Martin Huml wrote: > I find the same problem. Hitting Esc does NOT abort the CW immediately, > which causes panic in every CW contest. I'm finally learning that a This happened to me half a dozen times this past weekend. I'm pretty sure that ESC used to kill the CW instantly, even on my ancient 20 MHz computer. It certainly doesn't any more. Sometimes the whole exchange got sent even though I hit the ESC as soon as I realised what was happening. Doc N7DR PS The reason this happened was because of the following scenario: I'm in S&P mode. I hear someone send a power, so I dump that in the exchange window. Then he sends his call (perhaps he's only signing every two or three Qs) and I put the call in the exchange window. Then I hit to call him. TR's state machine doesn't seem to understand that I haven't called him before. It believes (erroneously) that because there is already an entry in the exchange field, it's already called the guy. So instead of sending N7DR, it sends 599CO, which makes me sound like even more of a lid than I really am. ---------------------------------------------------------- D.R. Evans N7DR / G4AMJ N7DR@arrl.net "Palindor Chronicles" information and extracts: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR/drevans.htp ---------------------------------------------------------- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From N7DR@arrl.net Wed Feb 24 18:15:26 1999 From: N7DR@arrl.net (D. R. Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:15:26 -0600 Subject: [TRLog] ARRL CW and new 930 CPU board Message-ID: FYI: Except for two unrepeatable weirdnesses, the new 930 board worked flawlessly with TR all weekend. The only slightly worrying one was the first time I operated S&P split; when the station finally came back to me I hit the enter key to send the exchange and log the contact, and both VFOs suddenly darted to 14.500. I tried to reproduce the problem but couldn't. (And no, it wasn't RF; the longest ground line in my basement shack is about four feet before it buries itself in the soil; I've never seen a trace of stray RF in the shack). I'm still running the original firmware; the current firmware would probably make it even more pleasant. (I'm still waiting for Chris to make an adapter available that will allow me to download new firmware. I love the board too much to want to take it out and have him reprogram it.) Doc N7DR ---------------------------------------------------------- D.R. Evans N7DR / G4AMJ N7DR@arrl.net "Palindor Chronicles" information and extracts: http://www.sff.net/people/N7DR/drevans.htp ---------------------------------------------------------- -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Wed Feb 24 19:19:15 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:19:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] Can't abort CW immediately w/ Esc Message-ID: <199902241919.LAA05580@user2.teleport.com> > > I find the same problem. Hitting Esc does NOT abort the CW immediately, > > which causes panic in every CW contest. I'm finally learning that a > > This happened to me half a dozen times this past weekend. I'm pretty sure > that ESC used to kill the CW instantly, even on my ancient 20 MHz computer. > It certainly doesn't any more. Sometimes the whole exchange got sent even > though I hit the ESC as soon as I realised what was happening. > > Doc N7DR > > PS The reason this happened was because of the following scenario: > > I'm in S&P mode. I hear someone send a power, so I dump that in the > exchange window. Then he sends his call (perhaps he's only signing every > two or three Qs) and I put the call in the exchange window. Then I hit > to call him. TR's state machine doesn't seem to understand that I > haven't called him before. It believes (erroneously) that because there is > already an entry in the exchange field, it's already called the guy. So > instead of sending N7DR, it sends 599CO, which makes me sound like even > more of a lid than I really am. So, the program is busy updating the log files on your hard drive and pressing any key on the keyboard will not be processed until the hard drive activity is completed. Running SMARTDRV will elimiante this delay. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From fdavis@newtel.com Wed Feb 24 19:30:43 1999 From: fdavis@newtel.com (fdavis@newtel.com) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:00:43 -0330 Subject: [TRLog] typical QSO scenarios Message-ID: I am a new owner of TRLog and haven't actually used it on the air yet. !! I feel that it would be useful to have in the manual for newbies a section on how to get started on the air with the program. In other words how to carry out typical QSO's in Dxped mode etc. This feature is in the manual for a well known RTTY contest program that I own and I found it most useful at the beginning in order to get used to the various keys and buffers. etc. I still haven't figured out how to get at the three sets of buffers (F keys ) for the various modes in TRLog?? Anyway thought I would throw in this comment for the guys preparing the updated manual. 73 Frank VO1HP -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n2cu@buffnet.net Wed Feb 24 19:57:42 1999 From: n2cu@buffnet.net (Thomas R. Williams) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:57:42 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] typical QSO scenarios References: Message-ID: <36D459B6.4B2D@buffnet.net> fdavis@newtel.com wrote: > > I am a new owner of TRLog and haven't actually used it on the air yet. Does this mean we can look forward to working you in SS this November? Please? 73, Tom N2CU (missed only N/L two years in a row) -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From joe.carvalho@mci.com Wed Feb 24 20:08:01 1999 From: joe.carvalho@mci.com (Joe Carvalho) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:08:01 -0700 Subject: [TRLog] typical QSO scenarios In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <19990224200744.MWV10255@[166.33.200.179]> I have to agree with Frank on having either a Newbie section, or a bit more detail on how/why you would set any/all of the settable(sic?) parameters. One of the things that 6.36 is doing is when an entry is changed with ^J and saved to the config file and than sometime later the entry is changed again, all the changes are kept. If I change a parameter a dozen times, there will a dozen entries for that particular parameter. --joe DE KR6NA At 04:00 PM 2/24/99 -03-30, fdavis@newtel.com wrote: > >I am a new owner of TRLog and haven't actually used it on the air yet. !! >I feel that it would be useful to have in the manual for newbies a >section on how to get started on the air with the program. In other words >how to carry out typical QSO's in Dxped mode etc. This feature is in >the manual for a well known RTTY contest program that I own and I found >it most useful at the beginning in order to get used to the various keys >and buffers. etc. >I still haven't figured out how to get at the three sets of buffers (F >keys ) for the various modes in TRLog?? >Anyway thought I would throw in this comment for the guys preparing the >updated manual. > >73 Frank VO1HP > > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From rrossi@btv.ibm.com Wed Feb 24 21:01:19 1999 From: rrossi@btv.ibm.com (Ronald D Rossi) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:01:19 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] typical QSO scenarios In-Reply-To: <19990224200744.MWV10255@[166.33.200.179]> Message-ID: <199902242101.QAA30336@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com> A few weekends ago doing a special event station (W1B, Snowflake Bently), I set all the computers up to run TR. I am sure of at least one sale of TR as a direct result (to a PVRCer, and maybe a YCCC guy too...CT bastions or what!). Anyway to my point... I believe it was Lloyd, W1CX, who described the elementary function of the program so well. He started by saying that the enter key is really a "smart key". It always does what you would expect it to do if you were sending code. The function of the key changes, so you don't have to worry about it. Type the call, hit enter: the right stuff is sent. Enter the exchange, hit enter: the right stuff is sent. It was a good lead in for the reason for having S&P and CQ modes. Those words formed the basis of understanding how TR works to the CT user that was trying to figure it out. I think it applies even more so to computer logging 'newbies'. -- 73 de KK1L...ron (rrossi@btv.ibm.com) <>< QTH: St. Albans, Vermont My page: http://www.qsl.net/kk1l -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From kk7gw@wa.freei.net Wed Feb 24 21:13:35 1999 From: kk7gw@wa.freei.net (David Jones) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:13:35 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] typical QSO scenarios In-Reply-To: <199902242101.QAA30336@johnpaul.btv.ibm.com> References: <19990224200744.MWV10255@[166.33.200.179]> Message-ID: <199902242111.NAA96215@mail.wa.freei.net> To: "TRLog Reflector" Subject: Re: [TRLog] typical QSO scenarios Date sent: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:01:19 -0500 From: Ronald D Rossi > I believe it was Lloyd, W1CX, who described the elementary function of the > program so well. He started by saying that the enter key is really a "smart > key". It always does what you would expect it to do if you were sending code. > The function of the key changes, so you don't have to worry about it. Type the > call, hit enter: the right stuff is sent. Enter the exchange, hit enter: the > right stuff is sent. It was a good lead in for the reason for having S&P and > CQ modes. Yes, that truly describes the basic nature of TR. I think it even says this in the manual, but I don't remember. The reason I think many people think TR is 'harder' to use is because they have to unlearn CT. Me, I never used CT before getting TR, and I caught on very quickly. The other thing that is probably daunting to new TR users is the sheer number of configurable options. TR in its basic form is quite simple, but if you say, turn right to Appendix A of the manual, with all the different logcfg.dat commands, you can become overwhelmed. 73 David Jones, KK7GW kk7gw@wa.freei.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k8ln@neo.rr.com Wed Feb 24 22:16:54 1999 From: k8ln@neo.rr.com (John Schaffner Jr.,- K8LN) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:16:54 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] packet Message-ID: <001801be6043$62becf60$a2f35d18@default.neo.lrun.com> I am using version 6.36. When I ctrl-B for packet everything works, except the screen does not show what I type. I had this problem with version 6.26 and didn't care at that time. I remember Tree saying something at Dayton about adding a line to correct the problem. Anyone know what is blocking the screen from showing what is typed? MY CALL = K8LN CONTEST = CQ WW DISPLAY MODE = COLOR KEYER RADIO ONE OUTPUT PORT = PARALLEL 1 PACKET PORT = SERIAL 2 EIGHT BIT PACKET PORT = TRUE PACKET SPOTS = ALL John -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From toms@inconnect.com Wed Feb 24 23:01:11 1999 From: toms@inconnect.com (Thomas M. Schaefer) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:01:11 -0700 Subject: [TRLog] packet Message-ID: <017b01be6049$92826210$0d01a8c0@toms.altahealth> Is it possible that your TNC had echo off? This setting is commonly used by APRS programs, so maybe it is still set? Tom NY4I -----Original Message----- From: John Schaffner Jr.,- K8LN To: trlog@contesting.com Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 3:22 PM Subject: [TRLog] packet > >I am using version 6.36. When I ctrl-B for packet everything works, except >the screen does not show what I type. I had this problem with version 6.26 >and didn't care at that time. I remember Tree saying something at Dayton >about adding a line to correct the problem. Anyone know what is blocking >the screen from showing what is typed? > >MY CALL = K8LN >CONTEST = CQ WW >DISPLAY MODE = COLOR >KEYER RADIO ONE OUTPUT PORT = PARALLEL 1 >PACKET PORT = SERIAL 2 >EIGHT BIT PACKET PORT = TRUE >PACKET SPOTS = ALL > > >John > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k8ln@neo.rr.com Thu Feb 25 00:37:47 1999 From: k8ln@neo.rr.com (John Schaffner Jr.,- K8LN) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:37:47 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] re:packet Message-ID: <000e01be6057$11466580$a2f35d18@default.neo.lrun.com> Thanks Tom.... TNC was set Echo OFF, changed to ECHO ON..........everything typed shows on the screen now. John -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k6xx@mail.jps.net Thu Feb 25 00:19:00 1999 From: k6xx@mail.jps.net (k6xx@mail.jps.net) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:19 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] Paddles Message-ID: <199902250049.QAA01588@repop1.jps.net> I solved a similar RFI problem with 1000pF capacitors from each of the paddle leads to ground, mounted inside the connector cover. 73 de Bob, K6XX ----Original Message----- >From: "Ragnar Otterstad" >To: "James P. Cassidy" <107770.3462@compuserve.com>;"TRLOG Reflector" >Subject: Re: [TRLog] Paddles >Date: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 1:08 AM > > >>Last weekend we had an unusual RF problem with one computer/key interface, >>it would randomly key with RF from the 15m transmitter.We it cured by >>unplugging the paddle, which meant I was forced to use the keyboard for >>anything I didn't have in the computer. I gained a little skill at sending >>the minimal info on the keyboard but several times had a tough time getting >>back from the keyboard CW to the keyboard to enter other info. > > >I have had a similar situation on 40 meters when beaming at the house. Cured >it with ferrite on the cable, closeest possible to the trcvr. > >73 Rag OZ8RO > > >-- >FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html >Submissions: trlog@contesting.com >Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com >Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com >Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html > > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From K3BU@aol.com Thu Feb 25 01:54:57 1999 From: K3BU@aol.com (K3BU@aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:54:57 EST Subject: [TRLog] Clear Band Map display Message-ID: Finally got around playing with packet and TR in ARRL DX contest. Band map got quickly filled up with lotsa spots and smiley faces. I was trying to find out if it can be cleaned, refreshed, or wiped out. I did not succeed. Do I have to wait 60 minutes (and more junk) for it to go away, or there is a command that I can't seem to find? Found also that power saving settings in the notebook interfere with reception of packet spots. Had to disable it. Yuri K3BU -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ve3bbh@interlog.com Thu Feb 25 02:21:44 1999 From: ve3bbh@interlog.com (Paul Hicks, VE3BBH / VE3ZT) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:21:44 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] Re: Paddles vs Keyboard mode In-Reply-To: <2dba6b6.36d3a610@aol.com> Message-ID: <199902250222.VAA15282@smtp.interlog.com> Hi Gary, Like yourself, I'm a touch typist, too, learned it way back in high school in the late 50s. Glad I did, I actually enjoy typing and not having to look at the keys. Enables me to concentrate on copying calls in the pileups and less on keyboarding. That parts automatic--just like breathing. I also REALLY enjoy using my Bencher paddle. My old original Vibroplex paddle got lost during a move, so I was forced to pay the long bucks up here (about $100) and sprang for a Bencher about 3 years ago. Unlike the Vibroplex, the Bencher just never misses, the contacts seemed to get dirty quickly on the Vibro, and it was real tricky adjusting, too. I'd buy a used Vibroplex if I could find one priced reasonably, I like their looks and the neat logo. I estimate that during the ARRL DX CW, I used the paddle at least 30% of the time. No reason, I feel I know TR-Log well enough now, but I just enjoy using the paddle when the urge hits me and I don't want that skill to get rusty. I can't see that it makes any difference at all whether one uses the keyboard or the paddle (or combination), what's important (if one wants to do one's best in the contest) is to use the method that is the most efficient for that individual, and to have fun. 73 and cu in the contests. Paul VE3ZT At 02:11 AM 2/24/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I'd like to thank all those who responded to my initial post. For some, it >just seemed more handy to revert to paddles when asking for fills, etc. >Others stated it felt more natural to them for them. Yet another group >thought their typing speed and accuracy wasn't up to the task of going to >keyboard mode at contest speeds. Lastly, there was one poster who has the >uncanny ability of sending with the paddles with one hand while preforming >logging functions on the keyboard with the other hand. George, you're truly >one amazing guy (but heck, we all knew that anyway). :-) I'm afraid I'm in >the same category as K4QG on that one tho George. > >As AE2T so aptly put it "I think it's a matter of what is most comfortable for >you". >Thanks Al (and to the others who took the time to reply). > >73 //Gary *K8KFJ* -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Thu Feb 25 05:05:30 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:05:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] Clear Band Map display Message-ID: <199902250505.VAA10105@user2.teleport.com> > Finally got around playing with packet and TR in ARRL DX contest. Band map got > quickly filled up with lotsa spots and smiley faces. I was trying to find out > if it can be cleaned, refreshed, or wiped out. I did not succeed. Do I have to > wait 60 minutes (and more junk) for it to go away, or there is a command that > I can't seem to find? You can have it only put the multipliers up. Otherwise, you have to delete them one at a time. Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From K8KFJ@aol.com Thu Feb 25 17:50:15 1999 From: K8KFJ@aol.com (K8KFJ@aol.com) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:50:15 EST Subject: [TRLog] Re: Paddles vs Keyboard mode Message-ID: <9644a5e6.36d58d57@aol.com> In a message dated 2/24/99 9:23:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, VE3BBH writes: > I can't see that it makes any difference at all whether one uses the > keyboard or the paddle (or combination), what's important (if one wants to > do one's best in the contest) is to use the method that is the most > efficient for that individual, and to have fun. Very true Paul & thanks so much for your comments. I think you and I may be in the minority concerning our typing skills in keyboard mode (I feel quite lucky in that regard). I hear a few folks go to the paddles in the middle of a contest Q to ask for a fill, etc. and the cw suddenly changes to garbage HI. I have a VibroKeyer deluxe paddle which I use often on a 2 meter CW satellite uplink and when I operate portable from a mountaintop QTH with the IC-706MKII. The paddles are definately fun...and like you...I never want to loose my skill of sending with them and get rusty. Stay warm up there in ONT Paul. 73 //Gary *K8KFJ* -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From kk7gw@wa.freei.net Thu Feb 25 18:53:00 1999 From: kk7gw@wa.freei.net (David Jones) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:53:00 -0800 Subject: [TRLog] Re: [CQ-Contest] Checking ARRL Ten minute rule In-Reply-To: <199902251413.JAA11181@contesting.com> Message-ID: <199902251850.KAA17961@mail.wa.freei.net> Date sent: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 09:13:12 -0500 (EST) To: Kenneth Earl Harker , cq-contest@contesting.com (CQ Contest) From: WE9V Chad Kurszewski Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Checking ARRL Ten minute rule > Theoretically, yes. > > But when I tried a Multi-2 thing in TR, complete with Computer ID A/B > in the original log, I couldn't get the ARRL format to show the > computer (TX) ID as stipulated in ARRL general rule #7: > >Multi Operator, Two Transmitter category logs must indicate which > >transmitter made each QSO. > > Of course, I could be doing something wrong. > > Correctly stated, this program works with files that: > Have the band in the first two characters of the line. > Have the hour in the 18th and 19th position of the line. > Have a 0 or 1 in the last position of the line, indicating TX 0 or TX 1. What might work, since the 6 band change rule is for each transmitter (by my reading anyway), is to have the TR Post program pull out the QSOs for each TX, and then convert to ARRL format. You would have to run it twice, treating each TX as a M/S, but that should probably work. 73 David Jones, KK7GW kk7gw@wa.freei.net -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From ik4wmb@sira.it Thu Feb 25 20:40:01 1999 From: ik4wmb@sira.it (Federico Ricci) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:40:01 Subject: [TRLog] Can't abort CW immediately w/ Esc In-Reply-To: <199901130944.LAA03894@mega.chem.ut.ee> References: <199901121635.KAA11603@isd7.tdec.state.tn.us> Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19990225204001.23b75706@sira.it> >> LH C:\DOS\SMARTDRV A+ C+ > Well, tried it myself.....it REALLY makes a huge difference! (at least on my 486......) Now it's a wonder to log a tailender very quickly with Ctrl Enter, even when you have more than 1000 q's on the log! Problem solved on this department. Thanks to Dave, K6LL and to Juhan, ES5QX for providing the info. This reflector is great..... 73,s Federico, IK4WMB. -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From k2av@qsl.net Thu Feb 25 21:29:47 1999 From: k2av@qsl.net (Guy Olinger, K2AV) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 21:29:47 GMT Subject: [TRLog] Can't abort CW immediately w/ Esc In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19990225204001.23b75706@sira.it> References: <199901121635.KAA11603@isd7.tdec.state.tn.us> <3.0.5.16.19990225204001.23b75706@sira.it> Message-ID: <36d6bafb.1732762410@mailhost.unx.sas.com> When you do this, remember that you are write-caching. That means that power glitches that reset your computer and locking up due to RF in the computer can cause you to loose content in the logs if it happens at the wrong time. At my place... 1) logger is on a ups (uninterruptible power supply). The power feed from CP&L is glitchy and full of spikes. Also on weekends people get sloshed and use their cars to cut down the power poles out on US 64. Seems to be a local redneck sport. 2) doing grounds, bypasses, and ferrite beads on stuff coming into the computer is important. YMMV. On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 20:40:01, Federico Ricci wrote: > >>> LH C:\DOS\SMARTDRV A+ C+ >> >Well, tried it myself.....it REALLY makes a huge difference! (at least on >my 486......) Now it's a wonder to log a tailender very quickly with Ctrl >Enter, even when you have more than 1000 q's on the log! Problem solved on >this department. >Thanks to Dave, K6LL and to Juhan, ES5QX for providing the info. >This reflector is great..... > >73,s > Federico, IK4WMB. 73, Guy --. .-.. Guy L. Olinger k2av@qsl.net Apex, NC, USA -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com Fri Feb 26 18:58:17 1999 From: Clive_Whelan@compuserve.com (Clive Whelan) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 13:58:17 -0500 Subject: [TRLog] RSGB/Domestic mults. Message-ID: <199902261358_MC2-6BFA-E9D4@compuserve.com> Hi list The multipliers for RSGB contests are ( where applicable) the DXCC list, except that all JA,K,VE,VO,VK,ZL and ZS call areas count separately. Perhaps someone has tackled this before but I haven't seen anything. Thus I have a model in which ADD DOMESTIC COUNTRY=K ( etc) is added to logcfg.dat, and then a n RSGB.DOM file is created with k1=K1, k2=K2 etc etc is created. The relevant commands to enable this file and the exchange etc,are then placed in logcfg.dat. So if I work Jack W1WEF and he gives me 599001 I log k1 001 in the exchange window. If N1BB then calls and gives me 001( and I can remember having worked W1WEF!) I just log 001 and so on. This works very well except that the DOMESTIC QTH is then logged twice, once in the exchange ( naturally) and once as a mult. if appropriate. This means that I ul timately will need to edit out the part in the exchange so as not to confuse the checkers. It would be nice if this didn't happen, but I can't see any way to avoi d it. Does anyone else see a solution? It is no big deal as the log will need heavy post contest massage as pts per QSO depend upon continent. I hope to try this in the RSGB 7Mhz DX contest tomorrow/Sun, 1500Sat 'til 0900 Sun, 7000 to 7030. Hey giss some points eh?, get yer ears on for my minimalist sig nal ;-)). Mult for DX side is post code, e.g. CF in my case. 73 Clive GW3NJW Written Fri, 26 Feb 1999 18:33 email(primary) clive_whelan@compuserve.com email(alternative) clive@whelan.prestel.co.uk Web http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/whelan/ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From wo4o@juno.com Sat Feb 27 04:07:16 1999 From: wo4o@juno.com (Ric Painter) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 23:07:16 EST Subject: [TRLog] RSBG 7 MHz Contest Message-ID: <19990226.040528.6607.0.wo4o@juno.com> Sorry if I missed a posting about this; but, please tell me how to configure TR Log (Ver. 6.25) to play in the RSBG 7 MHz game from the USA. TU/73, Ric - Wo4o (Ridgetop, Tennessee) - Viva TN Contest Group! wo4o@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From geoiii@kkn.net Sat Feb 27 14:40:44 1999 From: geoiii@kkn.net (George Fremin III) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 06:40:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] "READ" function In-Reply-To: <01BE5F48.C8D949C0.scott@purdue.edu> from "scott stembaugh" at Feb 23, 99 04:23:01 pm Message-ID: <199902271440.GAA06128@quito.kkn.net> scott stembaugh writes: > > > Just so you know, I tried it this afternoon with this weekends log (I > wanted to update the log with any changes from the CTY files, which weren't > on the computer I was using) and I got the same result. I was running 6.36 > on an NT box in a DOS window. > > > > TR READ TEST.DAT > > > > and all that happened is that it started up like a new contest, but did > > nothing with the old file. I just did this with the 6D2X logs - using 6.36 in a DOS window on a win95 machine - it worked great. Maybe you could share your logcfg.dat files with me. -- George Fremin III You know you've achieved perfection Johnson City, Texas in design, not when you have nothing K5TR (ex.WB5VZL) more to add, but when you have nothing geoiii@kkn.net more to take away. 830-868-2510 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From dl2zav@qsl.net Thu Feb 25 22:43:29 1999 From: dl2zav@qsl.net (Udo Lautenbach DL2ZAV) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:43:29 +0100 Subject: [TRLog] Clear Band Map display Message-ID: <000201be629f$e4205980$ac3f9d3e@online.dl2zav> If I want to get rid of ALL entries, can't I just exit the program, DELete bandmap.bin, and restart TR? -- 73, Udo dl2zav@online.de -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: n6tr@teleport.com An: K3BU@aol.com ; trlog@contesting.com Datum: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 1999 06:28 Betreff: Re: [TRLog] Clear Band Map display > >> Finally got around playing with packet and TR in ARRL DX contest. Band map got >> quickly filled up with lotsa spots and smiley faces. I was trying to find out >> if it can be cleaned, refreshed, or wiped out. I did not succeed. Do I have to >> wait 60 minutes (and more junk) for it to go away, or there is a command that >> I can't seem to find? > >You can have it only put the multipliers up. Otherwise, you have to >delete them one at a time. > >Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From n6tr@teleport.com Sat Feb 27 22:57:17 1999 From: n6tr@teleport.com (n6tr@teleport.com) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 14:57:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [TRLog] Clear Band Map display Message-ID: <199902272257.OAA15752@user2.teleport.com> > If I want to get rid of ALL entries, can't I just exit the program, DELete > bandmap.bin, and restart TR? Yes - that would do it! Tree -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html From perb@kuai.se Sun Feb 28 09:17:53 1999 From: perb@kuai.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Per_B=F6rjesson?=) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:17:53 +0100 Subject: SV: [TRLog] Problem with Windows98 Message-ID: <00a501be62fb$3969c920$ccf8c6c3@default> I booted to DOS and then I installed TR again and whoops now it worked all right. I can also work in a DOS window. thanks for info /Per -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr�n: Jack Trampler - N2JT Till: Per B�rjesson ; trlog@contesting.com Datum: den 24 februari 1999 00:50 �mne: Re: [TRLog] Problem with Windows98 > > >Interesting. I am using ver 6.36 with Win98. I run it in a DOS WINDOW >(not Real DOS) and have absolutely no problems. Using it with an FT-1000MP >and a KAM+. I don't think the version is the problem though, as I have used >every version since 6.26 (I think that was my first one) without any >conflicts with Win95 or 98. I'd be inclined to think its something with you >Win98 configuration. > >73, >Jack - N2JT >n2jt@fast.net >n2jt@arrl.net > >> >>Hallo, >> >>I have got a new computer with Windows98. When I installed my version 6.34 >it will not work. I got the following message: "TR.EXE is not a valid >Win-32programme". What to do ?? >> >>/Per >>SM4SX > > -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/trlogfaq.html Submissions: trlog@contesting.com Administrative requests: trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-trlog@contesting.com Feature Wishlist: http://web.jzap.com/n6tr/trwish.html