[TRLog] Very Pleased
Gilbert Baron
gbaron@home.com
Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:53:54 -0600
I use an editor called PE2 that was written WAY back when the PC first came
out in 92. Notepad works fine too.
One nice thing about notepad is that you can drag the log file to open it.
You can't leave it open as you will goof up the file. You don't won't to
back level as you could.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-trlog@contesting.com [mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com]On
> Behalf Of Bill R
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 11:56 AM
> To: gbaron@home.com; trlog@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
>
>
>
> Hi Gil,
> Thanks for the idea..I'll try it and see if I can get it to work.
> Sounds like it could.....and if you don't have to shut down TR
> it would be a lot faster. What editor are you using?
> 73 Bill N9BR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gilbert Baron <xzs1947@us.ibm.com>
> To: Bill R <n9br@rsg.org>; Bob Wruble <ai7b@teleport.com>; Dale L. Martin
> <kg5u@hal-pc.org>; <trlog@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 11:49 AM
> Subject: RE: [TRLog] Very Pleased
>
>
> > I agree that an edit function would be nice BUT you do not have to shut
> > down. I have NO TROUBLE WHATSOEVER running from a DOS window.
> DO that and
> it
> > will be easy to keep an editor up.
> > If your machine can't handle that, I am sorry, but you should update it.
> It
> > would be MUCH easier and MUCH cheaper than the result of tree creating a
> > true windows app (which I would love and would buy) but that is really
> oput
> > of the question I think. As pointed out , that is NOT an easy
> task and you
> > would NOT want to pay the price.
> >
> > Logic 5 is a BEAUTIFUL FULL WINDOWS app logger and puts TR to shame (for
> > logging) but cannot hold a candle to it for contesting.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-trlog@contesting.com [mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Bill R
> > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 9:40 AM
> > > To: Bob Wruble; Dale L. Martin; trlog@contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > > You're missing the point, a logging program should allow
> > > you to edit in real time to maintain an up to date and accurate log.
> > > A contest program should allow you to work quickly.
> > > Shutting down, running an editor, and restarting TR is not
> > > very quick ...not to mention A LOT of extra unnecessary work.
> > > Control - N is only a band-aid that does nothing for real
> time accuracy.
> > > 73 Bill N9BR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bob Wruble <ai7b@teleport.com>
> > > To: Bill <n9br@rsg.org>; Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>;
> > > <trlog@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 7:32 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
> > >
> > >
> > > > hey if the ability to edit every contact in the log real time
> > > > is an issue then shut the pgm dwn and edit the log.dat file with ur
> text
> > > > editior and then go back in.......!!
> > > >
> > > > from my experience alt-n works great for noting any suspected
> > > > probs with a qso past the last five........besides with all
> > > this emphasis
> > > > on logging accuracy edit situations shud be rare!!
> > > >
> > > > w7gg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Bill <n9br@rsg.org>
> > > > To: Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>; <trlog@contesting.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 6:43 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Dale,
> > > > > Give me a break...don't you think accuracy would
> > > > > give you a better score? Control N ...what?
> > > > > Doesn't it seem a little strange that you can have a
> > > > > logging program that you CAN'T edit a logged entry.
> > > > > I can't believe I'm having this conversation.
> > > > > I need to keep a log of errors for my logged
> > > > > entries.... what?
> > > > > I would think the "PRIME DIRECTIVE" would be to
> > > > > accurately keep track of your contacts AND accurate
> > > > > running totals .That might impact the outcome.. These are
> > > > > not accurate if I can't edit my log in real time. Maybe this
> > > > > could be a multiplier logged wrong....that I won't chase
> > > > > because TR says its already in the log. Could be a
> > > > > band mistake. Could be any number of things that
> > > > > could impact my "performance"
> > > > >
> > > > > Dale wrote.....
> > > > >
> > > > > > A full log editing feature is something that can and probably
> should
> > > > > > be handled AFTER the contest or during a break.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why?...Why should I wait till after the contest is over before
> > > > > fixing a mistake AND getting an accurate picture of my
> > > > > performance during a contest. Why is this better done "AFTER"?
> > > > >
> > > > > Dale wrote...
> > > > >
> > > > > If I need to edit more than 5 Q's back--I've gotten close, but it
> > > > > > hasn't happened yet--I think I would either stop where I am
> > > and go fix
> > > > > > it or simply put a CTL-N note in the log reminding me to
> > > fix it after
> > > > > > the contest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Please note what you said...stop where I am and fix it....
> > > > > That's all I'd like to be able to do without shutting the
> > > program down,
> > > > > starting a text editor, finding, fixing, closing and starting TR
> again
> > > > > etc etc.
> > > > > Do you like having totals wrong?. Does it somehow
> > > > > improve your performance? Isn't having an accurate log
> > > > > and score more important then most of the bells and
> > > > > whistles that, I'm betting a good number of TR users
> > > > > don't understand,....much less use?
> > > > > I don't expect Tree is going to "fix" it anytime
> soon...but Jeez
> > > > > would you at least agree an accurate and timely log is better
> > > > > then an inaccurate one the should be fixed....after the contest?
> > > > > How about at least a ..REAL TIME EDITOR....(Default off)
> > > > > something simple.......dream on...I guess I better practice
> > > > > my CW skills....Now if you guys would just stop making
> > > > > mistakes sending it...I wouldn't have a need to edit my log
> > > > > during OR after the contest......
> > > > > 73 Bill N9BR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > .----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Dale L. Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
> > > > > To: <trlog@contesting.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 3:51 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [TRLog] Very Pleased
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Hi Rod,
> > > > > > > Say what you want...I'm a life subscriber...TR user by
> > > choice and
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > >DO think it is a shortcoming in the program. In my view it
> > > would be a
> > > > > > better
> > > > > > >program if it could incorporate the seamless ease of correcting
> any
> > > > > > entry
> > > > > > >in the log at will....WITHOUT having to use a separate text
> editor.
> > > > > > >Wake up...it's a logging program....can you understand
> that maybe
> > > > > > >I'd like to modify an entry in my log even after I've
> worked five
> > > > > > others
> > > > > > >Q's?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My understanding of Tree's "Prime Directive" (Hey!
> Tower Talk has
> a
> > > > > > Prime Directive, TRLog should have one, too!) is that additions,
> > > > > > deletions, modifications, new bells & whistles, etc., would only
> be
> > > > > > made if it helped to increase an operator's performance
> and score
> in
> > > > > > realtime operating. Is that not so?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A full log editing feature is something that can and probably
> should
> > > > > > be handled AFTER the contest or during a break.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I need to edit more than 5 Q's back--I've gotten
> close, but it
> > > > > > hasn't happened yet--I think I would either stop where I am
> > > and go fix
> > > > > > it or simply put a CTL-N note in the log reminding me to
> > > fix it after
> > > > > > the contest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keep making my score bigger, Tree!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 73,
> > > > > > dale, kg5u
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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