[TRLog] Re: TRLog Digest V4 #304
Howard Hoyt
n4af@contesting.com
Wed, 23 Jan 2002 06:57:09 -0500
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A couple:.
1) Don't use it the first hour
2) After the first hour, you can TRY using SO2R, but may find it
difficult. At the least, you have a quick method of
band change.
I will predict that you will be hard pressed to exploit it in Sprint.
73, Howie
TRLog Digest wrote:
>TRLog Digest Tuesday, January 22 2002 Volume 04 : Number 304
>
>
>
>In this issue:
>
> [TRLog] SO2R in sprint
> Re: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint
> RE: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint
>
>See the end of the digest for information about trlog-digest
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:20:30 -0500
>From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
>Subject: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint
>
>Any hints for SO2R in the CW Sprint? I'm pretty new to SO2R in general,
>and it feels like it would be hard to make much use of a second radio for
>the first 2 hours at least. Is this a situation where it might make sense
>to run the second radio solely in CQ mode on the next higher or lower band,
>while concentrating mostly on trying to work the traditional "couplets" on
>the first radio?
>
>73, Pete N4ZR
>
>Sometimes a tower is
>just a tower
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:32:48 -0800
>From: Tree N6TR <tree@kkn.net>
>Subject: Re: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint
>
>>Any hints for SO2R in the CW Sprint? I'm pretty new to SO2R in general,
>>and it feels like it would be hard to make much use of a second radio for
>>the first 2 hours at least. Is this a situation where it might make sense
>>to run the second radio solely in CQ mode on the next higher or lower band,
>>while concentrating mostly on trying to work the traditional "couplets" on
>>the first radio?
>>
>
>You have touched one of my favorite subjects!! Prepare for a long
>response....
>
>First off - I don't really recommend two radios in the CW sprint
>unless you meet one of the following two criteria:
>
>1. You are a masochist.
>
>2. You have pretty much run out of "easy" things to do that can
>increase your scores.
>
>Having said that - probably the biggest impact the second radio
>will have is an increase in your multiplier. Getting two or
>three extra mults out of the second radio isn't hard to do.
>
>Using a second radio to actually increase your QSO total is a
>little harder to accomplish.
>
>You are correct about focusing on "couplets" on the band you
>have the best rate on. TR lends itself to calling a CQ while
>you are receiving an exchange in response to a CQ. This lets
>you have a presence on another band without much (if any)
>sacrafice in rate.
>
>If you imagine someone answering your CQ on the second band,
>you can now call CQ on the first band while receiving the
>exchange. If you can string several of these sequences
>together, you are probably running at a rate faster than
>you can just doing couplets. This doens't hapen very often,
>but when it does - it is pretty magical.
>
>For me, I typically don't worry about the second radio in
>the first hour. I will then start using it some on 40 meters,
>and quickly reach the point where I can't really tell you which
>band I am "running" on. After awhile, S&Ping on 20 will stop
>being very productive, and I will keep CQing on 20 until I
>either get an answer, or find someone to call on 40.
>
>I go "single band" again when I first hit 80, and sometimes
>during the last 15 minutes of the contest because I start
>to go crossed eyed and just need to focus on one radio again.
>
>Tree
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:02:50 -0600
>From: "Robert Brandon" <rbrandon@austin.ibm.com>
>Subject: RE: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint
>
>Tree has a great article on the TR web page.
>http://www.qth.com/tr/two_radio_sprint.html
>
>I tried two radios in the last Sprint and could just feel the hair
>popping out on my chest.
>
>Unfortunately, my score was not so manly. 8^)
>
>Good luck.
>
>Robert K5PI
>
>- -----Original Message-----
>From: owner-trlog@contesting.com [mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com] On
>Behalf Of Pete Smith
>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 4:21 PM
>To: trlog@contesting.com
>Subject: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint
>
>
>Any hints for SO2R in the CW Sprint? I'm pretty new to SO2R in general,
>and it feels like it would be hard to make much use of a second radio
>for
>the first 2 hours at least. Is this a situation where it might make
>sense
>to run the second radio solely in CQ mode on the next higher or lower
>band,
>while concentrating mostly on trying to work the traditional "couplets"
>on
>the first radio?
>
>73, Pete N4ZR
>
>Sometimes a tower is
>just a tower
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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A couple:.<br>
<br>
1) Don't use it the first hour<br>
2) After the first hour, you can TRY using SO2R, but may find it difficult.
At the least, you have a <b>quick</b> method of <br>
band change.<br>
I will predict that you will be hard pressed to exploit it in Sprint.<br>
<br>
73, Howie<br>
<br>
TRLog Digest wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">TRLog Digest Tuesday, January 22 2002 Volume 04 : Number 304<br><br><br><br>In this issue:<br><br> [TRLog] SO2R in sprint<br> Re: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint<br> RE: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint<br><br>See the end of the digest for information about trlog-digest<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:20:30 -0500<br>From: Pete Smith <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:n4zr@contesting.com"><n4zr@contesting.com></a><br>Subject: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint<br><br>Any hints for SO2R in the CW Sprint? I'm pretty new to SO2R in general,<br>and it feels like it would be hard to make much use of a second radio for<br>the first 2 hours at least. Is this a situation where it might make sense<br>to run the second radio solely in CQ mode on the next higher or lower band,<br>while concentrating mostly on trying to work the traditional "couplets" on<br>the first radio?<br><br>7
3, Pete N4ZR<br><br>Sometimes a tower is<br>just a tower<br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:32:48 -0800<br>From: Tree N6TR <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tree@kkn.net"><tree@kkn.net></a><br>Subject: Re: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint<br><br></pre>
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<pre wrap="">Any hints for SO2R in the CW Sprint? I'm pretty new to SO2R in general,<br>and it feels like it would be hard to make much use of a second radio for<br>the first 2 hours at least. Is this a situation where it might make sense<br>to run the second radio solely in CQ mode on the next higher or lower band,<br>while concentrating mostly on trying to work the traditional "couplets" on<br>the first radio?<br></pre>
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<pre wrap=""><!----><br>You have touched one of my favorite subjects!! Prepare for a long<br>response....<br><br>First off - I don't really recommend two radios in the CW sprint<br>unless you meet one of the following two criteria:<br><br>1. You are a masochist.<br><br>2. You have pretty much run out of "easy" things to do that can<br>increase your scores. <br><br>Having said that - probably the biggest impact the second radio<br>will have is an increase in your multiplier. Getting two or<br>three extra mults out of the second radio isn't hard to do.<br><br>Using a second radio to actually increase your QSO total is a<br>little harder to accomplish.<br><br>You are correct about focusing on "couplets" on the band you <br>have the best rate on. TR lends itself to calling a CQ while<br>you are receiving an exchange in response to a CQ. This lets<br>you have a presence on another band without much (if any)<br>sacrafice in rate. <br><br>If you imagine someone answering
your CQ on the second band,<br>you can now call CQ on the first band while receiving the <br>exchange. If you can string several of these sequences <br>together, you are probably running at a rate faster than<br>you can just doing couplets. This doens't hapen very often,<br>but when it does - it is pretty magical. <br><br>For me, I typically don't worry about the second radio in <br>the first hour. I will then start using it some on 40 meters,<br>and quickly reach the point where I can't really tell you which<br>band I am "running" on. After awhile, S&Ping on 20 will stop<br>being very productive, and I will keep CQing on 20 until I <br>either get an answer, or find someone to call on 40. <br><br>I go "single band" again when I first hit 80, and sometimes <br>during the last 15 minutes of the contest because I start <br>to go crossed eyed and just need to focus on one radio again.<br><br>Tree<br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:02:
50 -0600<br>From: "Robert Brandon" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rbrandon@austin.ibm.com"><rbrandon@austin.ibm.com></a><br>Subject: RE: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint<br><br>Tree has a great article on the TR web page.<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.qth.com/tr/two_radio_sprint.html">http://www.qth.com/tr/two_radio_sprint.html</a> <br><br>I tried two radios in the last Sprint and could just feel the hair<br>popping out on my chest. <br><br>Unfortunately, my score was not so manly. 8^)<br><br>Good luck.<br><br>Robert K5PI<br><br>- -----Original Message-----<br>From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com">owner-trlog@contesting.com</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com">mailto:owner-trlog@contesting.com</a>] On<br>Behalf Of Pete Smith<br>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 4:21 PM<br>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:trlog@contesting.com">trlog@conte
sting.com</a><br>Subject: [TRLog] SO2R in sprint<br><br><br>Any hints for SO2R in the CW Sprint? I'm pretty new to SO2R in general,<br>and it feels like it would be hard to make much use of a second radio<br>for<br>the first 2 hours at least. Is this a situation where it might make<br>sense<br>to run the second radio solely in CQ mode on the next higher or lower<br>band,<br>while concentrating mostly on trying to work the traditional "couplets"<br>on<br>the first radio?<br><br>73, Pete N4ZR<br><br>Sometimes a tower is<br>just a tower<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>- --<br>FAQ on WWW: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/trlog">http://www.contesting.com/FAQ/trlog</a><br>Submissions: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:trlog@contesting.com">trlog@contesting.com</a><br>Administrative requests: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com">trlog-REQUEST@contesting.com</
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