[UK-CONTEST] RSGB Cabrillo update

[Tim-M0BEW]

If you have CT, TR, WL etc or anything that supports IOTA or WPX you can
enter, RSGB-AFS-CW, RSGB-AFS-SSB, RSGB-NFD, RSGB-SSB-FD, RSGB-160,
RSGB-COMMONWEALTH, RSGB-LOW-POWER, RSGB-IOTA, RSGB-21/28-SSB, RSGB-21/28-CW,
without any major editing what so ever.

CT as well as all the other major brands could have been used for AFS, and a
compatable cabrillo log produced without major editing or using a file
converter.

The only thing that has to be edited is a couple of lines in the header.
Which are normally, call, contest and catergory etc. It takes about 30
seconds.

Tim-M0BEW.



----- Original Message -----
From: "G3SJJ" <g3sjj at btinternet.com>
To: "Nigel Cawthorne" <G3TXF at compuserve.com>
Cc: "[unknown]" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Cabrillo update


> Absoluely correct Nigel, as usual!
>
> I have no problem with us all moving forward, but if HFCC are changing the
> rules it is necessary for THEM to either get ALL the software writers to
> conform or to provide some form of bridgeing system. Of course this
> bridgeing system can be at either end, ie with the adjudicator or with the
> entrant. If it was with the adjudicator then the whole thing would be
> seemless to us, the punters.
>
> What appears to have happened is that the rules have been changed and the
> onus put on the entrant to comply. Like Nigel and Clive, I am not
convinced
> this is the correct way. I am certainly not going to start messing around
> with text editors again. Either HFCC convince all software writers to
> conform or they provide a conversion kit or they accept my entry, or I
just
> don't enter.
>
> BTW, I haven't used CT for some years. I changed to NA after being lent a
> copy by BUO about 10 years ago and stuck with it ever since. I have
recently
> changed to Writelog which I find far better than the old DOS software.
> Similarly I am waiting (and waiting and waiting) for the new Windows
version
> of Turbolog. I only need 2 programs , one for contesting and one for
station
> management.
>
> Chris G3SJJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of Nigel Cawthorne
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 9:25 PM
> Cc: [unknown]
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Cabrillo update
>
>
> Hullo UK Contesters:
>
> I agree with Clive GW3NJW entirely and with Chris G3SJJ mostly.
>
> There are three parties involved in this 'triangle': the contest
> organisers, the logging software writers and us, the QSO fodder.
>
> At the end of a contest, I just want to be able to press a button which
> creates a file which is in the appropriate format to submit the log there
> and then. OK it might need "topping and tailing" with some station
details,
> comments etc, but the basic log must be ready to be E-mailed immediately.
>
> If RSGB approved Cabrillo-style format(s) is/(are) not immediately
> available
> from the logging program, I wouldn't have the patience to set up the
> correct format (as I have done in the past), by shuffling columns around
> until everything is in the correct place.
>
> Is there a possible intermediate stage? Could the RSGB HFCC provide
> a set of file-converters which can be down-loaded from their website
> for taking, for example, a CT .RES file and turning it into whatever the
> appropriate format is for submitting the AFS log? That way Chris G3SJJ can
> do his AFS in CT (as many others do) and then can take the appropriate
flat
> text file generated by CT, put it through the RSGB HFCC supplied
> 'converter'
> so that the submitted log is in the most efficient format for the
> adjudicator.
>
> The same could be done for Writelog, NA and any other major contest
> logging programs. You'd only need to provide converters for a handful of
> the major contest logging programs.
>
> Yes, it would require an extra processing stage by the entrant. Also it
> puts
> the contest organiser somewhere between the logging software and the
> entrant, but this is preferable to having no log submitted at all.
>
> Yes, I expect we'll get there one day, but Clive is right to make a direct
> correlation between the ease of submission of a log (in the appropriate
> format) and the success of a contest. It's a challenge for the RSGB HFCC,
> that's for sure, but it's in the interest of improving [RSGB] HF contests
> for all;
> an improving contest is one in which there is "more" and "better" stuff to
> work each year.
>
> 73 - Nigel G3TXF
>
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