[UK-CONTEST] 80M SSB Contest report - G3NKC

[G3SJJ]

- My pleasure, Mike.

- Well, going back about 15 years I probably passed you at 120mph but these
days I am more likely to see if I can get you hooked on to the Freelander's
towbar!

- There is at least one UK contester who says there is no such thing as
"Spirit" as in "Rules and Spirit of the Contest."

- Nope. All's fair in love and contesting

Chris G3SJJ    - Family Motto - Life is too short for QRP.
Founder member of the G-QRO Club and Editor of the Club's digest "Splat"



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Farmer [mailto:G3VAO at Hortonbrook.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 20 March 2004 21:58
To: G3SJJ; UK Reflector
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 80M SSB Contest report - G3NKC


Wow!!! I now know how a fisherman feels when he gets a bite followed by the
biggest fish in the pond!!

Chris I assume that you are driving one of the cars that goes past me at
100mph+ when I am only doing 80+ on a motorway - The law is there to be
broken seems to be your attitude.

We must meet one day!!!

But has the discussion even made you think of attempting to made uk
contesting a fairer game for everyone at this point I include a quote from
Paul
"It appears to me somewhat unfair to be placed in the same section whether
you are running 5w, 100w or 400w...however requiring everyone to be placed
in the same section when some are running 2500w seems
indefensible..."

That's how G operators feel running 100watts to a beam in RSGB contest.

73 de Mike
G3VAO

----- Original Message -----
From: "G3SJJ" <g3sjj at btinternet.com>
To: "UK Reflector" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: [UK-CONTEST] 80M SSB Contest report - G3NKC


> With respect and putting it very mildly, that is a load of claptrap!
>
> 1 - There is this thing called the British Disease. You know - We are an
> island and not in Eu, save the Pound, long live Beloo, we must stick to
the
> power limits.     Irrespective of any local licence conditions, there are
> several internationally recognised power breaks : Standard Transceiver
> Power, Standard Contest and DXing Power, S+CAD. Listen to the 3B9C
pile-up,
> ask what power is 3B9C running, what power are the callers running?
>
> The British Disease could also be prominent in the IOTA contest multi-op
> section. As good honest UK ops we interpret the rules how we think the
> sponsors intended them. There is strong suspicion amongst us stout fellows
> that some other Eu groups are interpreting them how they want to. So you
see
> us Brits are so bad after all!!
>
> Running extended power is not new, is not limited to contesting and is not
> limited to UK only stations.  Why do we have to keep going through this
> silly discussion?
>
> I was recently exchanging memories of 160m DXing with a friend. I
mentioned
> the late G3GRL, my CW and 160m mentor, who back in the 1960s ran a pair of
> 813s at around 500w out when the limit was 10w DC input. I was introduced
to
> 100w by my peers at that stage. From then on I always ran STP.  Come on
> Mike, surely you are not that naive. What about the all the big UK, EU and
> ROW DXers? What about the very late G2NM?  Surely you remember the late
> G3FXB, top DXer and contester.
>
> 2 - On your second point. I couldn't care a jot what you wish to believe
or
> not believe. In AFS, like the 80m Cumulatives, if the rules say 100w, I
will
> use 100w.
>
> Go to 5B4 and have a look at the 3 P3A sites.  Come on Mike, live in the
> real world
>
> Chris G3SJJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Farmer [mailto:G3VAO at Hortonbrook.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 19 March 2004 22:41
> To: G3SJJ; David L Sharred; Dave Lawley; UK Reflector
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 80M SSB Contest report - G3NKC
>
>
> >
> > One interesting point is that in AFS most competitive stations would be
> > using SCAD (Standard Contesting and DXing) Power, ie 800 to 1200w, with
a
> > few using S+CAD, 1500-2500w, yet in the 80m CC with everyone using 100w,
> > there were still problems.
> >
>
> Must have another look at the BR 68 I must be missing something
>
> > - Might be worth limiting AFS to 100w. I would be happy to go along with
> that.
>
> If you cannot restrict yourself to 400 in other contests what makes you
> think we will belive you are at 100 in the AFS???
>
> Mike
> G3VAO
>
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