[UK-CONTEST] QRO

[G3SJJ]

Thanks for the information Colin on presumably your weekend off! (or is 
it the same as usual, volunteers are expected to be available at all 
hours!) (of course, if you are being paid I trust the Society and its 
membership would sanction overtime rates!!)

The power list is revealing and very interesting. I feel there is a case 
for increased power limits for a number of reasons although maybe 
difficult to negotiate. I guess it depends on the level of straight 
talking seen as acceptable. I know in the era Chris WOJ mentions there 
was much double talk when negotiating with the "Authorities," things you 
could say and things you couldn't, and the time gap between meetings was 
painfully long. It would be nice to think things had moved on over the 
last 10 years or so.

- On the basis of business negotiation, I certainly think we should be 
"going in" at 1500w for Full Licencees as Standard. The reasoning being 
that since licensing is now a business activity we should be playing 
them at their own game. If they want to put forward restrictions, then 
THEY must justify them on a technical basis and WE, having the technical 
and operating experience, should be able to counter or negotiate.

- If we are able to talk freely then "Established Precedent" should be 
discussed. Whilst it is painful for some people to accept, creative 
interpretation of power levels has been around for many decades probably 
since licences were first issued. From my own experience I was aware of 
160m DX chasers well exceeding limits in the early 60s and I am sure 
this was not a new phenomonen. I am sure pre-WW2 there were ragchewers, 
DX and contesters using well above prescribed levels as is the case now.

- The list of power limits in Europe should be a very useful negotiating 
tool, and again, it really up to the "Authorities" to advance solid 
technical reasons why these can't be matched. Competing on more equal 
terms for awards in general should be seen as an important reason.

- We do, of course, have to be realistic and accept that some locations 
are just not suitable for high power levels of any sort, but then do you 
condemn all locations to that situation. This is probably where the real 
negotiation begins and I have to say I wouldn't know where to begin. 
Surely though it is worth putting a bid in to test the water?

- Whilst not a negotiating item, a more realistic modern limit would 
help to calm the arguments that tend to arise about cheating etc.

Chris G3SJJ



Colin G3PSM wrote:
> Chris, I'm afraid I don't have that specific information as I only 
> enquired as to the 160 metre position.   However it appears that in the 
> majority of those countries that responded there is little difference in 
> the power levels between 160 metres and other HF bands.   The notable 
> exception is the Russian Federation where new regulations restrict 
> Russian amateurs to 10 Watts only throughout 160 metres.
>
> The differences start appearing if you start analysing Novice or 
> Foundation and Intermediate licence conditions.   There is a move within 
> CEPT to try and standardise these licences however CEPT only represents 
> 43 of the near 90 countries in Region 1 and one of those 43 while 
> attending meetings usually "niets" any new proposals or suggestions.
>
> If there is any particular country you are interested in Chris let me 
> know and I will try and help, otherwise it's a case of trying to find 
> the information on the national amateur radio Society website, if they 
> have one.
>
> 73
>
> Colin, G3PSM
>
> Chris Tran wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi Colin et al
>>
>>  
>>
>>     
>>> The latest information I have for Region 1 and this refers particularly
>>> to 160m is -
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>>>
>>>       
>> On the basis that 160m power levels may differ from those for other bands, 
>> do you have the current licence RF power limits for e.g. 20m for these 
>> countries, or where can I find this information on the internet ?
>>
>> Thanks - 73
>> Chris
>> GM3WOJ 
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