[UK-CONTEST] Fw: GB5HQ

Sat Jul 15 12:32:34 EDT 2006

>>>that anyone wishing to participate make timely representation

As I did.

This is a private email to you, however you want all this in public
apparently: 

Douglas, I am becoming particularly pi55ed off with you. You appear a grown
bloke with an interesting hobby *and* an opinion as regards how it should be
run. 

That being the case, think about how you can help yourself. I thoroughly
recommend that you 1) Get some contest results under your belt, 2)
demonstrate that you are a team player by representing your club and making
sure that your contest chairman can give you a satisfactory reference and
then if you are still in the running 4) make a representation to GB5HQ team
- or any other team frankly that you think you might assist in winning a
long-haul contest.

Wriggling around like a lost soul on this reflector is making you look like
a real charmer.

Sort yourself out.

C.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Henderson [mailto:bob at 5b4agn.net] 
Sent: 15 July 2006 15:23
To: uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Fw: GB5HQ

Doug

Since you earlier expressed a desire for all communication on this to be via

the reflector, I am assuming you pushed the wrong button when you replied to

me directly with the attached message.

So far as I can tell, the management of GB5HQ in IARU has been handled by 
the appropriate committee of the RSGB.  This committee delegated the 
co-ordinating task to a very well known and respected individual.  A high 
profile contester with over 30 years experience, who has also served as a 
member of the HFCC for 25 years.  I would find it difficult to criticise 
that decision, were I motivated to do so.

As a distant observer, it is clear to me that such a co-ordinating task is 
no small duty and will have required significant effort, time sacrifice and 
dedication on the part of the co-ordinator.  Likewise, those others involved

in preparation for the event.  I believe they should be congratulated 
wholeheartedly for their efforts.

Given that the dates for the IARU contest are public domain and published 
far in advance of the event, I think it reasonable that anyone wishing to 
participate make timely representation to either the chair of the HFCC or 
the appointed co-ordinator, setting out clearly the nature of their 
interest.  I feel sure the co-ordinator, giving due regard to the event 
objectives, would try his best to be accommodating.

Bob, 5B4AGN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Maxwell" <douglas.maxwell at virgin.net>
To: "Bob Henderson" <bob at 5b4agn.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Fw: GB5HQ

>> Did you register an interest to be involved with the GB5HQ effort and 
>> were
>> you refused?
>
> Yes I registered an interest in GB5HQ last year on this reflector and 
> whilst
> my memory is patchy back that far I came to the conclusion that
> participation was based on a 'by invitation only' basis due the nature of
> peoples homes being involved, as I have been reminded about again this 
> year.
> This year there wasn't a peep mentioned on this reflector or in the Radcom
> that a selection process was under way until an announcement was made that
> it was all done and dusted. How else could this selection process have 
> been
> carried out with no call for operators or publicity? As a result of my
> ramblings here on the reflector again this year the only realistic (in
> geographical terms) offer came from GM3WOJ who invited me to visit the 
> GM6NX
> station on a non operational basis. It was felt that it was too late in 
> the
> day (1 week before the start of the contest) to learn the software and be
> able to operate effectively, also there was already a 4 man team picked.
> This was a good decision on Chris's part and I accepted that.
>
>> Are your assertions grounded in a general belief that things would be 
>> more
>> equitable if they were done your way?
>
> Of course this is why I have insisted to John that all conversation about
> this topic should be made on this reflector in an open and honest way.
>
> Doug
> GM0ELP
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Henderson" <bob at 5b4agn.net>
> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Fw: GB5HQ
>
>
>> Doug
>>
>> As a non participant in the GB5HQ IARU entry and currently non UK
> resident,
>> I have no vested interest other than as an observer.
>>
>> I am curious to understand the reason for the strength of feeling I
> perceive
>> behind your position.
>>
>> Did you register an interest to be involved with the GB5HQ effort and 
>> were
>> you refused?
>>
>> OR
>>
>> Are you aware of someone else who experienced this?  If so, what makes 
>> you
>> sure you represent their views accurately?
>>
>> OR
>>
>> Are your assertions grounded in a general belief that things would be 
>> more
>> equitable if they were done your way?
>>
>> Just trying to develop an appreciation of where you're coming from.  No
>> knives here, all given up to the amnesty ;-)
>>
>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Douglas Maxwell" <douglas.maxwell at virgin.net>
>> To: "johndunnington" <johndunnington at johndunnington.karoo.co.uk>;
>> <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Fw: GB5HQ
>>
>>
>> >I requested you do do all communication with me through the reflector,
> not
>> > as you suggest the other way round! Apologies everyone for the wasted
>> > bandwidth unfortunately the knives are out. All this whilst trying to
>> > prepare for QRP field day! Of course there a some who don't worry about
>> > these quaint contests.
>> >
>> > Doug
>> > GM0ELP
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "johndunnington" <johndunnington at johndunnington.karoo.co.uk>
>> > To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:29 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Fw: GB5HQ
>> >
>> >
>> >> Doug Maxwell wrote...
>> >> I will take this up with him off reflector.
>> >>
>> >> Well that is the biscuit..having just balled me out for requesting not
> to
>> >> put a private reply to him on to the reflector..he now takes the same
>> >> route!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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