[UK-CONTEST] Re Contest results/publishing etc

[g3ory at lineone.net]

Hi Everyone,

Phil said:

>>>>It (the 80m CC) is a success, though, but maybe it is time to think about
changes for
next year, or some will be forced to call outside the band limits.
There is also a slightly unfair representation within some clubs. Some of
these are more national than others, with far higher numbers of potential
entrants. How about taking only the top five scores from any one club? Or
limiting it to a local area? Probably not good ideas, but something to think
about, unless you belong to one of the top five clubs.

How do we get new blood into the contesting fraternity? Well, taking 11
months to produce results from IOTA doesn't help in this age of instant
gratification! Even the 80m CC is now suffering slightly, in that the latest
results are actually some 2 months old.>>>>

I think these two points are contradictory. The 80m CC has got more members
of my Club participating in HF contests than anything else ever.  The reason
is simple - peer pressure arising from the concept of teams being as big
as the Club can muster. No longer can members hide behind the excuse "Oh
Buggins is much better at contests than me, he would be better in the team
than me".  I can turn round to them and say 'every single QSO you make counts
towards the Club score'.

This is at odds with the idea of taking only the top five scores.

As to having a geographical restriction, if you want the same Clubs to win
the 80m CC that win the 80m AFS contests, then have similar rules!  At least
the present set of rules for the 80m CC is a big big incentive to encourage
new folk to participate and it also produces a different group of Clubs in
the top three.

And finally, my Club may be a 'national' club, but we only have 30 members.
The key is that we manage to get 20 of them on the air for the 80m CC. There
are 'local' clubs with double that membership who get a dismally small number
QRV.

I do agree with Phil over the amount of spectrum the rules allow us to use.
The QRS corrall idea is good but takes up an unreasonable proportion of the
50kHz allocated for CW.  I think he is right too about the 20kHz for the
data modes.

73

Bob
G3ORY

>-- Original Message --
>From: "Phil Cooper" <pcooper at guernsey.net>
>To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
>Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 19:18:33 +0100
>Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Re Contest results/publishing etc
>Reply-To: pcooper at guernsey.net
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have been quite amused by some of the comments about scoring, and the
>publishing of results, and I feel that the topic has partly lost the plot!
>
>Yes, the RSGB needs to get the scores out in a timely fashion, and I
>understand that this is done by "volunteers", and their acts are praiseworth
>etc etc etc.
>However, the simple fact is that the RSGB do not - in general - get results
>out quickly at all, IOTA being but one example.
>Many RTTY contest results are declared in 4 - 8 weeks, although I accept
>that not all are.
>
>It is about time the RSGB managed to find a better way to process results,
>and simply get them out in a reasonable time-frame. Surely there is someone
>within the RSGB that has the ability to create such software, or maybe there
>is already a suitable product out there?
>
>I totally disagree with M5AAV's view that the 3830 is a "....pointless
>ego-trip.....". It is there for us to use to compare performance with those
>others that also post there. For me, it is far from an ego trip, as I am
>always well down the list, but then I don't enter contests to win. I don't
>have a big station, nor do I have a big ego. It is simply a way to see how
>well I did in comparison to whoever else posts their claimed score.
>
>Mention was made of the 80m CC earlier on, and I do feel that this has
>become a victim of its own success. I suspect that it is now getting very
>close to forcing entrants to disobey the voluntary bandplan set out by the
>RSGB for this contest. Even the RTTY segment is now way too small to carry
>the traffic.
>It is a success, though, but maybe it is time to think about changes for
>next year, or some will be forced to call outside the band limits.
>There is also a slightly unfair representation within some clubs. Some of
>these are more national than others, with far higher numbers of potential
>entrants. How about taking only the top five scores from any one club? Or
>limiting it to a local area? Probably not good ideas, but something to think
>about, unless you belong to one of the top five clubs.
>
>How do we get new blood into the contesting fraternity? Well, taking 11
>months to produce results from IOTA doesn't help in this age of instant
>gratification! Even the 80m CC is now suffering slightly, in that the latest
>results are actually some 2 months old.
>
>I guess Don G3XTT has quite a task ahead, and wish him well with trying
to
>please you lot! I am sure that he will end up being criticised for this
or
>that, but I hope he proves you all wrong.
>
>Ah well, perhaps this discussion will carry in in FHFN!!! See you there!
>
>73 for now, and off to the shack for the 80m CC CW leg!
>Phil GU0SUP
>
>
>
>
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