[UK-CONTEST] Steel versus poly rope guys?

Martin Snow martinsnow1943 at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 27 05:23:18 EST 2008


GM3ZBE de GW3PRL

Alex,

Just noticed your request for info regarding rigging of
masts.

I come from a sailing/fishing background where safety is
paramount. Having said that there is a fair amount of overkill in the boat
insurance market, when it comes to rigging.

 

The following comments are based on the assumption that your
mast is up to perhaps 60/70 feet.

 

Polypropylene is usually the cheapest type of rope
available. The main problem with this material is that it is not UV
stabilised.  This means it has very low
resistance to UV radiation from the sun and ‘rots’ very quickly, if left out in
all seasons.

 

There are two main types of rigging: Standing and
Running.  

Standing rigging is the rigging that holds the mast up all the
year round, It is usually fixed and not moved at all. (though not necessarily motionless,
due to it vibrating in the wind) This can be stiff or flexible and need to be
non-elastic or pre-stretched.

Running rigging consists of the halyards you use to haul up
the end of the antenna.  This is used (moved)
fairly often and is required to be flexible around pulley blocks, and waggle
about in the wind with the antenna. This requires to be flexible.

 

The main advantage of using Galvanised or Stainless Steel
wire for your standing rigging is that it stands a lot of chafing before it
losses any of its strength. So, if it has to pass from the mast through trees
and bushes on its way down to the strong point where its fixed permanently, you’re
best using a steel wire (better still trim the trees/bushes back, remember, these
blow about in the wind!)

Of course, from the radio point of view you must break up
the lengths of the guy wires, as shown in the Handbooks, to avoid resonances
and RF absorption.

If you can guarantee
that the guys will not suffer any chaffing whatsoever, or being chewed by farm
animals! You could then use a UV stabilised fibre rope i.e. Terylene/Dacron etc
from the sailing industry, also look in to the ropes used in the fishing
industry, they use some synthetic fibre ropes, some of which are Black, which
is better.

 

Of course, Galvanised wire will be significantly cheaper
than Stainless.  But will have a shorter
life. Take care not to remove the thin coat of zinc galvanising or it will
rust.

 

Again you have two choices of material for your running
rigging; steel or fibre, but for amateur radio use steel is a bit over the top,
except for the wires used in telescopic masts where fibre should never be used.

 

Since you live in Scotland,
I suggest you look in Yellow Pages for fishing supplies or chandlers, or ask a
friendly fisherman if you live near a harbour.

 

Fibre rope comes in three main types plaited, and three or
four strand. The stranded ropes are very easy to splice.

 

Steel wires come in various specs. and some are classed as
flexible: -

1/19 = 19 single thick strands, is stiff and only used for standing rigging. 

                        Requires
machine splicing. (Talurit)

7/7 = 7strands each of 7 medium wires, is only used for standing rigging.

                        Can
be hand spliced with difficulty….if you’re keen!

7/19 = 7 strand of 19 fine wires, can be used for standing
rigging, but is intended to be               flexible
enough for running rigging.

                        Fairly
easy to hand splice…. if you’re keen.

ALWAYS used a thimble in any eye splice, particularly in
wire standing rigging.

 

If you are near a firm doing yacht rigging, or a local scrap-yard,
ask for their scrap wires. You will find these perfectly good for the average
amateur mast, very cheap, and in short lengths.

 

Hope this is of some help.

 

73 de Martin, gw3prl.



> From: alex at gm3zbe.plus.com
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:35:30 +0000
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Steel versus poly rope guys?
> 
> Hi
> 
> I've never used steel guy wires on any of my (modest) masts having always
> used polypropylene or similar.
> 
> Since I now live on the top of a 600ft hill in East Scotland I am thinking
> of replacing the present guys with steel cable.
> 
> Exactly what type of cable is normally used, is it galvanised wire or what?
> 
> How do you specify it and who would stock that sort of stuff?
> 
> Alex
> 
>  
> 
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