[UK-CONTEST] Re 144MHz Contesting etc

Tue Nov 11 04:24:49 EST 2008

Dave:
I understand your say but I would like to have my opinion said too so we can share comments etc.
VHF bands from 6m and higher are very unpredictable. Activity from UK is pretty low overall compared to EU and therefore beacons
Are sometimes only way of monitoring conditions. GB3VHF was / is unique in having both A1 and JT6 mode with auto-switching after 60seconds.
I know that guys from well over 700km range were listening to weak signals EME like and that GB3VHF was real beacon devoted to promote idea of swinging 
EU beams toward UK.
Not many on both sides do have a time to listen for activity, but on most occasions if DX Cluster spot comes from far DL or OK,OE that GB3VHF is audible, UK guys just simply go on and joins the fun and that's the idea of having it on.

Tim: 
I agree that costs are high and that these times are difficult with everyone trying to save / make as much as possible. 	
It might be option, if RSG's decision is final, thatwe could support beacon or try to find different location.
(In OK, we had a little hut in jn99bo and we had a beacon there all the time apart from contests or activity periods so either club member or beacon was on the air. May be that would be way to go forward too? )

Anyway, it would be sad to just keep dropping the activity levels and GB3VHF participate in keeping them at least as they are for sure.

73 and have a good day.

Jiri

-----Original Message-----
From: aulo39 at dsl.pipex.com [mailto:aulo39 at dsl.pipex.com] 
Sent: 11 November 2008 08:49
To: Jiri Culak
Cc: Adrian Rees; Tim Hague; uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: RE: [UK-CONTEST] Re 144MHz Contesting etc

Have a lok at the RSGB web site under news, and www.g0afh.com/gb3vhf, the costs involved are £2000 pa, I'm 
personally disgusted, it just shows what the RSGB thinks of VHF (well DX modes anyway). It appears that the 
decision was taken without the knowledge of the board!, if I took a major decision like this without consultation
with my directors I'd be out on my ear.

Tim M0AFJ

Quoting Jiri Culak <Jiri.Culak at lwss.co.uk>:

> Wow, where this this information (GB3VHF) came from?
> I don't believe it (or more likely don't want to believe this)
> GB3VHF is one of the best beacons, several times hrd from my OK2
> location in JN99BM and BO. Heard via Es on FT817 while as 3V8/M0ITY. 
> I am sure that in case it's funds are to be cut off, we can maybe help
> there?
> I know that this beacon is monitored a lot from continent and
> contributes to vhf activity towards UK. If it about to be gone, impact
> will for sure decrease already poor activity.
> 
> Gordon GPZ,
> 
> What a signal on Tuesday! You are one of the loudest GMs for sure. I
> never tried contest on 2m and up from GM and it probably is a challenge.
> Just keep it that way, I am sure most of the time people just calling to
> east not bothering, I tried on Tues leaving main system at 310-350 deg
> for 35 minutes and worked 3-4 GMs. Not a big number but they are there
> :)
> 
> Jiri
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Re 144MHz Contesting etc
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> Tim
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> Who at the RSGB is dealing with this, and do you know what costs are
> involved ?  
> 
> I believe its on a Pye / Simoco owned mast, is this correct ?
> 
> Adrian MW1LCR
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 11 November 2008 07:12
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Re 144MHz Contesting etc
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> 
> A further nail in the coffin of VHF contesting / activity is the 
> intention of the RSGB to withdraw funding for GB3VHF. The beacon will be
> 
> shut down by the end
> of December, This beacon has been in operation for over 40 years and is 
> known throughout Europe.
> All for the price of a few tickets to Dayton
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