[UK-CONTEST] [dmuars] Re: RSGB Sprint

Fri Oct 31 08:36:52 EDT 2008

Marvellous.
Here we are on the last day of October 2008 and the CC are prepared to take on board suggestions for encouraging greater "Sprint" participation on 80m by UK stations prior to deciding on the 2009 rules!

Why can't the UK Activity Contests be treated in exactly the same way?

The M2 multiplier rule needs scraping or modifying in that "ONLY UK" squares count as a multiplier.

73 Ray GM4CXM

--- On Fri, 31/10/08, ALEX LISTER <alexcom22 at btopenworld.com> wrote:

> From: ALEX LISTER <alexcom22 at btopenworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] [dmuars] Re:  RSGB Sprint
> To: 
> Cc: uk-contest at contesting.com, "G3LRS" <g3lrs at yahoogroups.co.uk>
> Date: Friday, 31 October, 2008, 12:02 PM
> Like Tim
> Agree with something to encourage the M3,s.
>  I know they should not feel excluded but are .
> Often treated as second class by one of the 80 metre
> fraternity.
> Like it or lump it the M3,s and 2E0s are the future. Many
> do not come from the traditional SWL route but some are keen
> to operate, 
> At Leicester RS we hope to get some of the M3,s on for the
> 160 metre Club calls next week.
> Please give them encouragement..
> 
> Or to put it in simple terms they will operating when  the
> old groaners are pushing up the daisy,s !
>  
> Alex Lister G8FCQ
> alexcom22 at btopenworld.com
>  07711 411 945 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Raven, Timothy"
> <tim.raven at capgemini.com>
> To: g4fnl at bubloz.demon.co.uk
> Cc: dmuars at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2008 11:25:45 AM
> Subject: RE: [dmuars] Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Sprint
> 
> 
> Graham
>  
> I have a couple of suggestions which you might which to
> consider -:
>  
> 	* I would like to suggest bring back the 599 bit of the
> report because the 599 acts as a synchronization signal for
> the serial number, which I recon operators find helpful
> especially those who are not too experienced in CW
> contesting. 
>  
> 	* Make M3 stations worth double points, as this would help
> M3 stations to obtain higher score, and it would encourage
> ‘other stations’ to listen for the weaker signals
> through the pile ups , because they will get double points,
> and I might encourage more M3 into contesting. 
>  
>  
>  
> Again, like Bob, these are my personal suggestions and are
> not those of De Montfort University ARS 
>  
> 73 de Tim G4ARI
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From:dmuars at yahoogroups. com [mailto:dmuars@ yahoogroups.
> com] On Behalf Of g3ory at lineone. net
> Sent: 31 October 2008 10:33
> To: g4fnl at bubloz. demon.co. uk
> Cc: dmuars at yahoogroups. com; don.field at gmail. com
> Subject: [dmuars] Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Sprint
>  
> Graham,
> 
> I welcome your invitation to comment on the series of
> Sprint Contests 
> and I think this is an eminently sensible thing to do with
> a new 
> contest series. Can I ask if you also E-Mailed this
> invitation to all 
> those who sent in logs by E-Mail?
> 
> I had previously commented about the QSY rule but at that
> time 
> received no acknowledgement that you had got my comments
> let alone 
> considered them. I will repeat them here:
> 
> 1. There must be a reason for the two different QSY shifts,
> 5kHz if 
> you wish to call and 2kHz if you call someone else. This
> reason is not 
> self evident to me and I wonder if the added complexity
> that it 
> engenders is worth having a difference. Surely the aim of
> the rule is 
> simply to stop operators 'moving' by 100 Hz and
> then CQing again and in 
> doing so cirumventing the aim of the rule. Why not have a
> single QSY 
> shift for each session?
> 
> 2. It seems to me that the aim of the QSY rule is to make
> ops go to 
> another 'channel' for their next QSO. Why then is
> the QSY rule not 
> related to the bandwidth of the mode in use? It seems
> sensible to me 
> to have a 2kHz QSY rule for ssb and a 500Hz QSY rule for
> CW.
> 
> 3 Finally, is there something that the RSGB CC knows about
> 80m 
> propagation at a time of a sunspot minimum that escapes me?
> It is not 
> obvious to me that we will enjoy good inter G propagation
> at the time 
> of the contest sessions in November. The proof of that will
> soon be 
> known to us all, but the general point that I am making is
> that the 
> sessions should take place at times when good inter G
> propagation can 
> be expected in order to attract a strong following. Trying
> to persuade 
> Russians 1500+km to the east to participate is difficult
> (aka 80m CC 
> February 2008).
> 
> This reply is my personal view and does not represent a
> combined 
> return from DMUARS.
> 
> 73 Bob
> G3ORY
> 
> >----Original Message----
> >From: g4fnl at bubloz. demon.co. uk
> >Date: 30/10/2008 18:44 
> >To: "UK-Contest" <uk-contest at contesti
> ng.com>
> >Subj: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Sprint
> >
> >Guys
> >
> >The RSGB Contests Committee has recently received some
> suggestions to 
> amend
> >the rules and also ideas to potentially increase
> activity levels for 
> the
> >Sprint contests, that in these early days, appear not
> to be 
> attracting the
> >quantity of entrants that we had anticipated.
> >
> >As there are just 2 more events before the end of the
> series, it has 
> been
> >agreed by the committee that it's sensible to leave
> the rules as they 
> are
> >for now, but we are of course keen to improve the
> situation, and we 
> would
> >welcome any additional comments and ideas that might be
> possible to
> >implement and include in next years events.
> >
> >So, please tell us what you like, and what you dislike
> about the RSGB 
> Sprint
> >contests, and most importantly, what you suggest that
> we can do to 
> increase
> >overall participation? If you have some thoughts,
> please send an e-
> mail
> >directly to me.
> >
> >Thanks Graham G4FNL
> >
> >
> >
> >
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