[UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV

Mike Parker g4iuf at supanet.com
Mon Sep 29 09:31:21 EDT 2008


Swap it for an LCD one, i have one very close by, and quiet as the grave - 
picture looks better to me too ! G4IUF
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>   1. Plasma TV(i) (Callum M0MCX)
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>   3. Re: Plasma TV(i) (Callum M0MCX)
>   4.  Plasma TV(i) (Ian Fugler G4IIY)
>   5. Re: Plasma TV(i) (Callum M0MCX)
>   6. Re: Plasma TV(i) (Jiri Culak)
>   7. Re: FULTON WINCHES (John Lemay)
>   8. Re: Plasma TV(i) (Pete Lindsay)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:50:40 +0100
> From: "Callum M0MCX" <callum at mccormick.uk.com>
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
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> Can someone point me in a direction of knowledge to assist me in trying to
> cure some pretty nasty QRN that I'm getting from my 42 inch Panasonic 
> Plasma
> TV..?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Callum McCormick
>
> <http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
>
> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:06:36 +0100
> From: Colin <colin at g3psm.net>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
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> Callum, this may seem obvious but -
>
> emc.chairman at rsgb.org.uk
>
> 73
>
> Colin, G3PSM
>
> Callum M0MCX wrote:
>> Can someone point me in a direction of knowledge to assist me in trying 
>> to
>> cure some pretty nasty QRN that I'm getting from my 42 inch Panasonic 
>> Plasma
>> TV..?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Callum McCormick
>>
>>  <http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
>>
>> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
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> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:24:45 +0100
> From: "Callum M0MCX" <callum at mccormick.uk.com>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
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> Thanks, I dropped him a line.
>
> I've done everything I can (including using 25 x RFC-13 clip on ferrites 
> on
> every mains lead I can find) but still the 20dB over S9 persists on 160m.
> Tonight, I even powered the rig from a generator in case is was common 
> mode
> but to no avail.
>
> Removing my antenna does a good job though!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Callum McCormick
> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Colin
> Sent: 28 September 2008 18:07
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> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
>
> Callum, this may seem obvious but -
>
> emc.chairman at rsgb.org.uk
>
> 73
>
> Colin, G3PSM
>
> Callum M0MCX wrote:
>> Can someone point me in a direction of knowledge to assist me in trying 
>> to
>> cure some pretty nasty QRN that I'm getting from my 42 inch Panasonic
> Plasma
>> TV..?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Callum McCormick
>>
>>  <http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
>>
>> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
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> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:58:58 +0100
> From: "Ian Fugler G4IIY" <zen90387 at zen.co.uk>
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST]  Plasma TV(i)
> To: "Callum M0MCX" <callum at mccormick.uk.com>,
> <uk-contest at contesting.com>
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> Callum
>
> It is clearly a new TV.  Is it too late to return the TV to the
> supplier/shop?  You have a cooling-off period during which you can return
> goods.  I think I might be tempted to do so and then do some research on
> this reflector about which plasma TVs cause least interference.
>
> I have recently bought a (spare) CRT TV for when ours breaks down.  It is
> now 14 years old and must be due to go bang soon.  I have heard so many
> horror stories about these new-fangled flat screen jobbies, that I
> determined having a spare CRT TV was a sound investment, even if it means
> installing it purely for contest weekends.
>
> Ian
>
> From: "Callum M0MCX" <callum at mccormick.uk.com>
>> Thanks, I dropped him a line.
>>
>> I've done everything I can (including using 25 x RFC-13 clip on ferrites
>> on
>> every mains lead I can find) but still the 20dB over S9 persists on 160m.
>> Tonight, I even powered the rig from a generator in case is was common
>> mode
>> but to no avail.
>>
>> Removing my antenna does a good job though!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Callum McCormick
>> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:48:07 +0100
> From: "Callum M0MCX" <callum at mccormick.uk.com>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
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> Hello Ian,
>
> Unfortunately it's not that new (!)a year old or more I seem to remember,
> however it's only recently that I actually identified it was causing me 
> all
> these issues and genuinely thought it was a common mode mains issue, hence
> the large quantity of ferrites I bought to cure it.
>
> Thing is, for the last 12 months, I've been commissioning / building a new
> boat and have had little time to play RF. However with the boat now 
> settled
> in, and with the winter coming in - I thought I'd buckle down and go and
> play with some contests. I have since realised the extent of this
> interference is completely blocking my ability to use radio from home 
> though
> and need to sort it out.
>
> I bought it from John Lewis with a 5 year warranty - I may be able to do
> something with them (can I get Ofcom involved..?)  I wonder if anyone at
> RSGB can assist though. I do hope so. If not, I'll need to weigh up the
> ?1,200 I paid for it -vs- my hobby.
>
> If you know me, you'll know that I won't go down without a good quality
> fight though!
>
> I'll keep you all posted.
>
> Regards,
>
> Callum McCormick
> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Fugler G4IIY [mailto:zen90387 at zen.co.uk]
> Sent: 28 September 2008 18:59
> To: Callum M0MCX; uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
>
> Callum
>
> It is clearly a new TV.  Is it too late to return the TV to the
> supplier/shop?  You have a cooling-off period during which you can return
> goods.  I think I might be tempted to do so and then do some research on
> this reflector about which plasma TVs cause least interference.
>
> I have recently bought a (spare) CRT TV for when ours breaks down.  It is
> now 14 years old and must be due to go bang soon.  I have heard so many
> horror stories about these new-fangled flat screen jobbies, that I
> determined having a spare CRT TV was a sound investment, even if it means
> installing it purely for contest weekends.
>
> Ian
>
> From: "Callum M0MCX" <callum at mccormick.uk.com>
>> Thanks, I dropped him a line.
>>
>> I've done everything I can (including using 25 x RFC-13 clip on ferrites
>> on
>> every mains lead I can find) but still the 20dB over S9 persists on 160m.
>> Tonight, I even powered the rig from a generator in case is was common
>> mode
>> but to no avail.
>>
>> Removing my antenna does a good job though!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Callum McCormick
>> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:41:29 +0100
> From: "Jiri Culak" <Jiri.Culak at lwss.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
> To: "Callum M0MCX" <callum at mccormick.uk.com>,
> <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Hello Guys,
>
> Just quick one:
> I Have got Fujitsu 42" Plasma, when on, I got S9 - S9+20 noise/spurious on 
> all bands. I took spectrum analyzer with 10cm long whip as pickup/ no 
> preamp and I was absolutely bewildered what I did see when TV was turned 
> on.
> I liove in heavy populated area and in evenings, I can here few TVs so I 
> don't go to 80 or 160 before 2am. Nothing I can do.
>
> Callum,
> In your case I think you would need to put it inside some kind of cage as 
> it points more towards RF emission from bad shielding of TV than common 
> mode mains issues.
>
> 73
>
> Jiri
>
> PS: I do not watch TV that much anyway, but my YL moved in on Sunday so 
> all might change....  oh god.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Jiri Culak
>
> LWSS Ltd.
>
> 13 Robjohns Road
>
> CM1 3AG - Chelmsford
>
> tel. 01245 251 500
>
> jiri at lwss.co.uk
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Callum M0MCX
> Sent: 28 September 2008 19:48
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
>
> Hello Ian,
>
> Unfortunately it's not that new (!)a year old or more I seem to remember,
> however it's only recently that I actually identified it was causing me 
> all
> these issues and genuinely thought it was a common mode mains issue, hence
> the large quantity of ferrites I bought to cure it.
>
> Thing is, for the last 12 months, I've been commissioning / building a new
> boat and have had little time to play RF. However with the boat now 
> settled
> in, and with the winter coming in - I thought I'd buckle down and go and
> play with some contests. I have since realised the extent of this
> interference is completely blocking my ability to use radio from home 
> though
> and need to sort it out.
>
> I bought it from John Lewis with a 5 year warranty - I may be able to do
> something with them (can I get Ofcom involved..?)  I wonder if anyone at
> RSGB can assist though. I do hope so. If not, I'll need to weigh up the
> ?1,200 I paid for it -vs- my hobby.
>
> If you know me, you'll know that I won't go down without a good quality
> fight though!
>
> I'll keep you all posted.
>
> Regards,
>
> Callum McCormick
> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Fugler G4IIY [mailto:zen90387 at zen.co.uk]
> Sent: 28 September 2008 18:59
> To: Callum M0MCX; uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
>
> Callum
>
> It is clearly a new TV.  Is it too late to return the TV to the
> supplier/shop?  You have a cooling-off period during which you can return
> goods.  I think I might be tempted to do so and then do some research on
> this reflector about which plasma TVs cause least interference.
>
> I have recently bought a (spare) CRT TV for when ours breaks down.  It is
> now 14 years old and must be due to go bang soon.  I have heard so many
> horror stories about these new-fangled flat screen jobbies, that I
> determined having a spare CRT TV was a sound investment, even if it means
> installing it purely for contest weekends.
>
> Ian
>
> From: "Callum M0MCX" <callum at mccormick.uk.com>
>> Thanks, I dropped him a line.
>>
>> I've done everything I can (including using 25 x RFC-13 clip on ferrites
>> on
>> every mains lead I can find) but still the 20dB over S9 persists on 160m.
>> Tonight, I even powered the rig from a generator in case is was common
>> mode
>> but to no avail.
>>
>> Removing my antenna does a good job though!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Callum McCormick
>> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:53:16 +0100
> From: "John Lemay" <john at carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] FULTON WINCHES
> To: "'UK-Contest'" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
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> Hi all
>
> I have a Fulton K1550 winch available for sale. Second-hand but almost
> unused, slight surface rust in places. Pictures available. Please contact 
> me
> off reflector if interested.
>
> Regards
>
> John G4ZTR
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> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of steve
> Sent: 27 September 2008 08:32
> To: UK-Contest
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] FULTON WINCHES
>
> HI
>
> I have a few FULTON winches that havae seen better days.  Does anyone have
> any experience of getting these serviced/or purchasing parts,  here in the
> UK?
>
> I have a couple of names of companies that sell them but havnt come across 
> a
> servicing facility yet.
>
> 73
>
> Steve
> G4EOF
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:00:47 +0100
> From: "Pete Lindsay" <psl at plcg.org>
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
> To: "UK Contest Reflector" <uk-contest at contesting.com>
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> I have a Panasonic plasma TV and the same problems. It has to be
> switched off to enable me to hear anything on the LF bands. Good job I
> have an understanding XYL !
> Mine is about 4-5 years old so I'm thinking of replacing it.
> Is there anyone out there who know about or has a large plasma or LCD
> TV that they know is RFI free??
>
> Pete, G4CLA.
>
> 2008/9/28 Callum M0MCX <callum at mccormick.uk.com>:
>> Hello Ian,
>>
>> Unfortunately it's not that new (!)a year old or more I seem to remember,
>> however it's only recently that I actually identified it was causing me 
>> all
>> these issues and genuinely thought it was a common mode mains issue, 
>> hence
>> the large quantity of ferrites I bought to cure it.
>>
>> Thing is, for the last 12 months, I've been commissioning / building a 
>> new
>> boat and have had little time to play RF. However with the boat now 
>> settled
>> in, and with the winter coming in - I thought I'd buckle down and go and
>> play with some contests. I have since realised the extent of this
>> interference is completely blocking my ability to use radio from home 
>> though
>> and need to sort it out.
>>
>> I bought it from John Lewis with a 5 year warranty - I may be able to do
>> something with them (can I get Ofcom involved..?)  I wonder if anyone at
>> RSGB can assist though. I do hope so. If not, I'll need to weigh up the
>> ?1,200 I paid for it -vs- my hobby.
>>
>> If you know me, you'll know that I won't go down without a good quality
>> fight though!
>>
>> I'll keep you all posted.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Callum McCormick
>> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
>> If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian Fugler G4IIY [mailto:zen90387 at zen.co.uk]
>> Sent: 28 September 2008 18:59
>> To: Callum M0MCX; uk-contest at contesting.com
>> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Plasma TV(i)
>>
>> Callum
>>
>> It is clearly a new TV.  Is it too late to return the TV to the
>> supplier/shop?  You have a cooling-off period during which you can return
>> goods.  I think I might be tempted to do so and then do some research on
>> this reflector about which plasma TVs cause least interference.
>>
>> I have recently bought a (spare) CRT TV for when ours breaks down.  It is
>> now 14 years old and must be due to go bang soon.  I have heard so many
>> horror stories about these new-fangled flat screen jobbies, that I
>> determined having a spare CRT TV was a sound investment, even if it means
>> installing it purely for contest weekends.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> From: "Callum M0MCX" <callum at mccormick.uk.com>
>>> Thanks, I dropped him a line.
>>>
>>> I've done everything I can (including using 25 x RFC-13 clip on ferrites
>>> on
>>> every mains lead I can find) but still the 20dB over S9 persists on 
>>> 160m.
>>> Tonight, I even powered the rig from a generator in case is was common
>>> mode
>>> but to no avail.
>>>
>>> Removing my antenna does a good job though!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Callum McCormick
>>> http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/
>>
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