[UK-CONTEST] Fw: Redundant contest reports? (SSB CC (and other 80mcontests))

[Clive GM3POI]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Clive GM3POI" <gm3poi2 at btinternet.com>
To: <gw0etf at btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Redundant contest reports? (SSB CC (and other 
80mcontests))


> There is no such thing as a true report. So just forget it, all reports 
> are dependant on multiple factors outside the control of the station 
> seeking the report.
>    The only valid report type is you are stronger or weaker than before by 
> X db if X can be measured and by measured I don't mean an S meter.
>    Other than that I can do without an RST that is NOT required for DXCC, 
> as in the case of EME where a report of O is often given. 73 Clive GM3POI
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stewart Rolfe" <gw0etf at btinternet.com>
> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:46 AM
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Redundant contest reports? (SSB CC (and other 
> 80mcontests))
>
>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: <g3ory at lineone.net>
>>
>>>> I found that I missed the 5NN/59 as a lead in to the serial
>>>> number  in the 80m Sprint last autumn.  Maybe there is someone
>>>> else out there who missed it too.  I expect he is a G3 as well.....
>>
>>>When you don't expect to hear 5NN, you don't miss it. Of course,
>>>for as long as you're not used to contest exchanges without
>>>reports, you might miss them.
>>
>>>73,
>>>Paul EI5DI
>>
>> More to the point surely is the fact that 59/5NN (as against true 
>> reports) is redundant information, adds to the general inefficiency of 
>> the contest exchange and should be left out. It also adds to the 
>> criticisms contest bashers use in their diatribes....
>>
>> I'm sure the human brain, or at least mine, does become conditioned to 
>> listen for the 5NN etc and I'm almost certainly still 'waiting' for it in 
>> classic contests. By now however I find the Sprint style completely 
>> natural and would probably have to double take if I actually did receive 
>> any sort of lead-in report.
>>
>> Time to ditch it? (or go back to true reports?)
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF
>> (A 60+ something G0 of little brain...)
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