[UK-CONTEST] New logging software... contesters first, boffins second, pse!

[James Thresher]

Ok, maybe not a decent contest (that i'm aware of) but I'm pretty sure there is far more in the way of amateur radio software than on the Mac

73 James M3YOM

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From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Clive Whelan
Sent: 26 January 2009 00:24
To: uk-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] New logging software... contesters first, boffins second, pse!

Linux? You jest surely. If there were a contest logger for that platform 
I wouldn't be running the execrable Windows equivalent today. Everything 
else under the sun, as good as or better than any Windows prog. Contest 
logger?, absoludimenda nada :-(


73



Clive
GW3NJW

James Thresher wrote:
> I might also point out that another piece of contest software currently in development (iHam Logger) is also being developed by a group of contesters.
>
> After over a decade working in the commercial software arena, there is one thing to be said about any program, if the developers do not understand their target market, they are fighting a losing battle.
>
> I wish them all the best though, I understand that it is designed for the Mac platform, which I believe does not have anything like the range of software available for windows or Linux, so any new software can only be a good thing.
>
> 73 James M3YOM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Nigel G3TXF
> Sent: 25 January 2009 23:43
> To: UK Contest Reflector
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] New logging software... contesters first, boffins second, pse!
>
> Sorry to pour cold water, but if this new contest logging software is not
> masterminded by enthusiastic contesters, it'll get nowhere. Arch contest
> operator Ken K1EA was the mastermind behind CT, the world's major contesting
> software of the 90's. The FY5KE contest team are behind Win-Test. Active
> contester Paul EI5DI is behind SuperDuper (thanks to Paul, SD has done much
> to spur interest in RSGB Contests over the years). Other successful contest
> loggers (WriteLog, N1MM etc) no doubt also have contesters in the driving
> seat. Unless the writers of the new program (however whizz it might be) are
> not contesters first and software boffins second, it's a dead duck from the
> start.
>
> 73 - Nigel G3TXF (who knows zilch about software) 
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul O'Kane
> Sent: 25 January 2009 18:58
> To: UK Contest Reflector
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Sequence of a typical Contest exchange
>
> EI5DI said:
>
>
>   
>>> "Will your developers still have enthusiasm for the project after the 
>>> first 3 or 4 years, never mind the first 13 or 14?  :-)"
>>>       
>  
> G4MKP replied
>
>   
>> Who cares?
>>     
>
> It's clear you don't.
>
> What tends to happen is that many contesters who can string more than three
> or four lines of code (computer code) together have the bright idea of
> writing a contest logger.  That was me in 1989.
>
> Naturally, the new logger will be better than most of those around.
> It will look really good, and will be ready in about 6 months; it will take
> advantage of the latest techniques; it will support all present contests and
> will be easily expandable for future events; it will be equally effective as
> both a station logger and a contest logger.  Of course, it will be
> platform-independent, meaning it will run on any computer - that's essential
> these days.
>
> I forgot one thing - it will be free.
>
> Reality is somewhat different. It takes a couple of years to debug and
> refine the first efforts, then another couple of years before any
> significant numbers of contesters switch to it.  They will only do that when
> they are confident the new logger will be around for a while.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your contribution to the debate. 
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
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