[UK-CONTEST] RRTC Contest.

Mon Jul 20 22:54:51 PDT 2009

I was puzzled by that OZCHR too Ken, and also later I noticed that the files should be named 'c/s.cbr'  To be fair though, if you did not delete that Robot message in anger, if you continue scrolling down you will find the message repeated in english language.

Still, six hundred odd sussed it out and Nigel has said he got an acceptance after an initial rejection. I tried yet again Monday am but got no response at all from the Robot.

I use SD for logging and Paul is looking at my files to see if he can discover what the Robot does not like. I do suspect that there will be an abnormally high nuber of rejections and am sure that RRTC Committee will already be aware of this, nevertheless Rogers suggestion of a note to Harry RA3AUU, is a good one which I shall follow up once I have heard back from Paul.

I do know that Randy, K5ZD, cqwpx director along with K1AR does rescue rejected logs in cases where there has been no re-submission by deadline date, admirable dedication to the cause IMO.

Good point about the beam headings Roger apropos my comment on weak sigs from the R33 stn's. Located almost due south of Moscow there is no time, certainly in an 8 hour contest, that they would ever beam my way so I was always listenening and calling sideon.
As one of the aims of the committee was to discover how they were being heard worldwide, how did they fare intto UK, or more importantly the USA? A question I suspect they would not gain an answer to due to the short duration time when 20m and below would require eveningtime operation and no 'f' propagation on the higher bands.

73,  Brian  5B4AIZ.

--- On Mon, 20/7/09, Roger G3SXW <g3sxw at btinternet.com> wrote:

From: Roger G3SXW <g3sxw at btinternet.com>
Subject: RRTC Contest.
To: "'brian coyne'" <g4odv at yahoo.co.uk>, CDXC at yahoogroups.com, "Ken Chandler" <g0orh at sky.com>
Date: Monday, 20 July, 2009, 7:06 PM

Well, Ken, that's a rather negative attitude, innit mate. I'm sure that the contest-sponsor would prefer to be told about the problems so that he can solve them. An e-mail to ra3auu at srr.ru should do the trick, cc to the WT crew. I was there while RRTC received some 600 logs within the 4-hour window. I don't know if they can monitor robot rejections. Maybe it was WT v4 at fault. I'm sure that any contest-sponsor would tell you that correct formatting of the log-entry is the responsibility of the entrant. But I agree that an English language version of the robot message is required!
73 de Roger/G3SXW.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ken Chandler 
To: 'brian coyne' ; CDXC at yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:43 PM
Subject: [CDXC] RE: [UK-CONTEST] RRTC Contest.

Hi Brian
I have had the exact same trouble, No English translation all in Russian.
Like you I guess I got an email inviting me to take part only to be thrown
out by the robot.
I'm using WT V4, the template is all wrong for starters that is why I got a
big fat Freddie...hi
The contest was the RRTC but the robot delivered an error message saying
only OZCHR values are acceptable!!
Beats me.
I'll give it a BIG miss next time round. What a Complete waste of time.

Ken..G0ORH

-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces@ contesting. com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces@ contesting. com] On Behalf Of brian coyne
Sent: 19 July 2009 10:25
To: uk-contest at contesti ng.com
Subject: [UK-CONTEST] RRTC Contest.

As 3830 have not given any facility for reporting this one and I heard quite
a few UK stations active i thought I would post a report here.

Probably not a contest we would normally take part in to any extent, this
year was a bit different being a dress rehearsal for WRTC championship next
year and we got personal emails requesting our support. If only for this
reason I did anticipate that 3830 might take an interest. I reckon that
Roger, as one of the referees had a very interesting time. Some of the R33
stations seemed to be head and shoulders above others both in terms of
signals and ability. signals could have been vagaries of propagation
although I was able to compare many only minutes apart when I was searching
for mlt's. What was writ large though was just how weak they were with only
e's and no proper propagation. They used similar setups to myself with 100w
rigs, low tribanders and a dipole for 40 and this made me realise just how I
must sound at distances over 2500km - ouch!

As for the contest itself  band cndx were pretty much the pattern of the
last couple of months although sigs on 15m were much stronger than when I
operated on that band for H2Q the previous weekend. What tactics to use?
With a 10.00 am local start time there won't be dx on 20m for low power ops.
I did hear some west coast one hour previously but come the hour they were
gone. 20m is spotty at best in the hours around noon. My decision was to hit
the highest band open 'til it died as we never know when it is likely to
close and not return, these sporadic cndx are well named, I gambled that the
last couple of hours would give the best return on 20 with local end time
of  18.00, in the event I only got the last 45 minutes when I could run and
catch the odd morsel of dx.Both 10 and 15m gave a great performance for the
first couple of hours or so before they tailed off although they did remain
open somewhat for the guys with power. It seemed to work for
me with 230 q's in the log after 2 hours although it tailed off quite
rapidly after that and later returns to the band needed hard work. 7mhz was
useless for me, cq'ing brought only 1 contact so just searched for mlt's,
obtaining only 4 zones plus 1 R33 stn. I caught only 12 different R33 stns
in total out of the promised 18, not one on 10mtrs despite a couple of qsy's
up there.

Looking forward to Rogers report with interest.

My final count was 530 nett q's with 68 mlt's, a rough calc gives around
130k pts, my logger didn't count some of the mlt's.

Frustrating experience after the test. RRTC Committee wanted logs submitted
within 4 hours so they could do onsite awards etc to winners etc. I got mine
in within 30 minutes only to have it rejected by the Robot. Despite 2
retries it was booted out again. Don't know what the problem is, the
rejected info was things like lines in my postal address, mode, power etc,
things that are in my standard template used for all contests and never
given a problem before. Maybe the Robot has the problem although I have not
seen any other reports of difficulty.

73  Brian   5B4AIZ  (C4Z).

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