[UK-CONTEST] July Radcom - BERU.

Thu Jun 25 14:44:59 PDT 2009

Hi  Jiri

Well, congratulations on your high-power licence.  I hope you don't abuse it 
in the way that so many others do during contests ... forgetting manners and 
operating skills, stealing frequencies, ignoring weak callers etc!

I hope you will lead a good fashion, rather than follow a bad one!

But still I have to say (on Ham Radio grounds), I would rather move away 
from OK-land than towards it!

73

Steve
G3UFY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jiri Culak" <jiriculak at aol.com>
To: "'Ray James'" <gm4cxm at yahoo.co.uk>; <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] July Radcom - BERU.

Hi Ray

Thanks for email earlier. I just received my renewed Czech license... It
seems that I am allowed to 3kW of contest power,
1.5kW normal power and 3kW moonbounce power.
Are you sure you don't want to move as well?? :-P

73 Jiri

>>>
PS I will be active from home during VHF FD as I prefer to see what is
possible to work on 1.3 GHz and 70cm from here.
Unfortunately, I cannot enter the new "Sweeper" section because some bright
spark(s) on the CC saw fit to limit "Sweepers" to a power limit of 100w for
some unfathomable reason!

--- On Wed, 24/6/09, brian coyne <g4odv at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> From: brian coyne <g4odv at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] July Radcom - BERU.
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Date: Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 7:39 PM Old Tlmer - "Hi Tingtang how
> you been doin'?" (Tingtang is my blog nickname).
>
> Tintang - "Ok I guess, been mooching around, been too darned hot and
> the mossies have been a real menace this year, keepin' us indoors a
> lot, at least I have done a few more contests than normally would."
>
> Old Timer - "Yep, I just got my July Radcom and see the beru results
> in there and you made 23rd place, that looks pretty good to me".
>
> Tingtang - "Does it"?
>
> Old Timer - "Why not"?
>
> Tingtang - "Well those tables are pretty meaningless".
>
> Old Timer - " How do you mean"?
>
> Tingtang - " It doesn't really match like with like. Take the UK guys,
> they need to work far harder than any other countries, get bored
> mindless with no propagation overnight and have very few stn's to work
> who are anywhere close.
> Also I don't agree with with the 12 hour category."
>
> Old Timer - "Yes but that's the way it has always been and the UK have
> their own awards"
>
> Tingtang - " Just 'cos it has always been that way doesn't mean it has
> to stay that way. It's about activity and motivation and encouraging
> more participation from newbies, we old hands are dying out".
>
> Old Timer - "How would you change it"?
>
> Tingtang - "Well that is a question that has taxed various HFCC
> Committees over the years and they never managed to come up with an
> answer. I think part of the reason for that is the Committee is
> comprised of experienced and well equipped operators who are also
> committed to retaining tradition", their minds need to be
> concentrated."
>
> Old Timer - "It's all very well to say that and easy to criticise, but
> I asked what you would do"?
>
> Tingtang - "We need to think outside the box as that modern term says.
> Invite suggestions from the membership and then run the numbers on the
> various scenarios. One suggestion again to be put forward is for UK
> stns to be able to work each other. That would also not only increase
> activity but encourage new participation. Easy enough to put into
> practice. Often suggested before and rejected but surely now
> achievable with computers to take care of scoring. Those who prefer
> the original format entries can elect to have their 'G' contacts
> disregarded in the same way that a single band entry can have other
> band contacts disregarded in modern contests, I'm sure computer gurus
> could take care of that.
> Of course it will need addition of another section and the Committee
> will just hate that!"
>
> Old Timer - "So what's your objection to the 12 hour section then"?
>
> Tingtang - "Originally introduced at the request of guys who were
> short of time!. Why acceed to this request?, those fellers would still
> have put in aavailable time anyway. This is not a busy contest. Ways
> needed to be found to increase activity, this move has had the effect
> of reducing it because what we have seen is big gun stns moving here
> chasing prizes. Let's face it, there were already too many dead hours.
> In effect reducing to 12 hours hasn't cost them a lot in terms of
> overall scores, look at the results and you will see what I mean. So,
> many guys in vk/zl and other far off places don't get chance to hear
> uk and vice versa because they are both on offtimes. Introducing this
> section and, moreover, creating awards for it was a nonsense! "
>
> Old Timer - "Hmm, you do not sound a happy bunny - anything else"?
>
> Tingtang - "Yep, there is no interaction with our Committee"
>
> Old Timer -" What do you mean by that"?
>
> Tingtang - "Here is an issue which is personal to me. A few months
> ago, following the last Beru, I addressed to Committee a request for
> them to consider the addition of a section for Triband/single wires,
> similar to the CQWW/WPX events, as any low power stn is never going to
> compete.
> Quite rightly we need to be separated from lp wires only but
>
> likewise 100w does nothing compared to 1KW + , especially on the low
> bands. We need our own category, it is demoralising to work hard at
> something in the knowlege that nothing will ever be achieved .The
> Radcom report concludes 'No major changes are contemplated to the
> rules for 2010'
> Was my proposal discussed? I really wouldn't know as, far from an
> explanation as to why the request denied, I never had any
> acknowlegement whatsoever. totally ignored.
>
> Old Timer - "So why continue to support beru, have you not thought
> about boycotting it"?
>
> Tingtang - " Only very briefly, and immediately dismissed the notion,
> boycotts only hurt those who excercise them, nobody else cares,
> besides I love beru and am fully committed to it. Going back 4/5 years
> beru was in trouble with falling numbers. There was a lively thread
> (see the
> archives) on the UK Contest Reflector where we all pitched in ideas. I
> came up with the suggestion of an international team competition (
> the ManchesterCommonwealth Games were due to take place that year)
> which I felt could kick start this contest if we could involve a bit
> of national pride and international competition.
> I was delighted when the committee took this on board the following
> year, proving that they do listen sometimes although despite taking
> subsequent credit for the innovation I don't recall the HFCC
> Reflector getting a mention. It was the membership through the medium
> of this forum which brought about this change, not the Committee"
>
> Old Timer - ."Do you think these things are likely to change?"
>
> Tintang - "Doubt it, nobody writes letters to committee anymore, time
> was when this Reflector was a lively place where ideas could be aired
> knowing Committee were taking notice, now we just see apathy, better
> to see guys coming back shooting flames than just silence which allows
> Committee to sit on their laurels."
>
> Old Timer - "Some of your sentiments may not be shared by the
> membership"
>
> Tingtang - "Likely not, some will, some won't but it would be nice to
> see some debate going on here from time to time, it's become a dull
> place, and besides, in the immortal words of Rhett Butler 'I don't
> give a damn!'
>
>
> 73 Tingtang (aka 5B4AIZ/C4Z/G40DV).
>
>
>
>
>
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