[UK-CONTEST] re ADSL Modem RFI
David, G3YYD
g3yyd at btinternet.com
Tue Nov 17 03:34:08 PST 2009
Ian
Did you try a ferrite ring (one of those the RSGB sells works well) on
the drop wire pair running into the BT master socket. In my case it fits
inside the master socket. You need a minimum of 14 turns. This will then
force the RF on the line at HF to be equal on both legs of the drop
wire. When the RF reaches the balanced input of the router it will
maximise the cancellation of the RX signal. By the way do not wind the
toroid with enamelled copper wire it does not have a high enough voltage
rating. I used internal phone cable with the outer sheath stripped off.
I do not have any added filtering on the power lead supplying the router.
In theory you should not alter anything between the master socket and
BTs line but they are not going to throw away your custom (£notes) so in
practice that regulation is not enforceable in this context.
I use a DG834G with the drop wire ferrite in place plus a ADSL
faceplate in the master socket to isolate the extension wiring from the
router. I run full power on all bands 160-10 plus 2m without any
degradation in the broadband signal to noise. One leg of my 80m dipole
and my 160m vertical top loading wire run above and to once side of the
BT drop wire. The BT supplied modem router was very poor on RF immunity
compared to the Netgear.
David G3YYD
Ian Maude wrote:
> This has been an interesting thread for me for several reasons. Firstly,
> *both* my routers (main and spare) expired with different faults at the same
> time and it had to be a Sunday! I nipped out and bought a Netgear router.
> I should have known better due to past difficulties but I needed to keep
> the cluster running :)
> The Netgear hates 80m. This newer model was better and could stand 50W
> without dropping the connection. Anything toward 100W and a reasonable over
> and the connection would drop due to queue length.
> I bought a DLink G624T online and connected that up. This is the same as
> the router that died and has no such problems. I can run 400W without
> losing a single ping!
> I was a BT engineer for most of my working life and the dropwire crosses the
> trap dipole but at right angles and well away from the current maximum. The
> line then comes straight into the shack and on to a filtered NTE. I have
> done many tests, moving the router and reconnecting wiring etc. The DLink
> works every time without issues.
> Now I know of other people who have the opposite experience and I have yet
> to discover why. I cannot imagine why one router would be so much better
> than another in this regard. I used the same line cord with both routers
> using 2 ferrite cores at each end of the cord with about 8 turns on each
> one.
>
> 73 Ian
>
>
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