[UK-CONTEST] CQWW lowlife

[nubsey]

Dear Majorie Proops,  I have just checked on DX summit. I was once spotted 
in AFS in 2002.  What can I do to increase my hit rate
 Yours Frustrated
Nubsey G0VDZ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Danny Higgins" <danny.higgins at keme.co.uk>
To: "'Steve Knowles'" <g3ufy at blueyonder.co.uk>; <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] CQWW lowlife


>I would like to see a 10 minute delay on cluster spots, as there is with
> some of the internet stock market prices, and for the same reason.  Let
> those with the skill and knowledge (and luck) find the DX before it is
> offered to the mindless hordes.
>
> Danny, G3XVR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve Knowles
> Sent: 30 November 2009 22:15
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] CQWW lowlife
>
> At risk of ruffling a few feathers ...
>
> The problem is caused by, not cured by the Cluster.
>
> Omitting your callsign is a tried and accepted means of controlling the
> level of your pileup.  There's no point in having a pileup so huge than no
> signals can be distinguished - better to restrict it and so improve your
> rate.  In the 'good old days' that was FB - after a minute or two the 
> level
> had dropped off, you sent your call and the patient ones who had waited 
> were
>
> rewarded.
>
> Now, some clown spots you on the cluster and all the world calls --- and 
> the
>
> spot stays on the display for anything up to ten minutes.  What do you do?
> QSY or try to work the pileup down, not sending your call in the hope of 
> not
>
> attracting new callers.  From the point of view of the DX station the 
> answer
>
> is obvious - for everyone else, particularly those not using the cluster,
> it's a pain in the a**e.
>
> Unfortunately, like nuclear weapons, the Cluster can't be un-invented.
> Outlawing its use in contests is no good, either, 'cos there are loads of
> non-contesters who want to work the rare stuff ... and people cheat as 
> well!
>
> We don't have the power to switch it off, so we'll have to learn to live
> with it, or go QRT !!!
>
> 73
>
> Steve
> G3UFY
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken Eastty" <ken.g3lvp at btinternet.com>
> To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] CQWW lowlife
>
>
>> Lowlights:
>>> Relying on the cluster to tell me the callsign of the 'big gun' stations
>>> sending at huge speed and dropping a dit dit in between QSOs, but no
>>> callsign.  When the callsign does come, it is totally unexpected and 
>>> sent
>
>>> at 50(?) wpm.  Twice the spotted callsign was in fact wrong.  This
>>> "anonymised dit dit/no callsign" phenomenon is becoming increasingly the
>>> norm and I dislike it.  Perhaps I'm just getting to that grumpy stage,
>>> though.
>>>
>>>
>> I couldn't agree more, I only came on to give a few points away & see
>> what there was to be worked I noted  V47...? operating as described, I
>> could hear a number of stations sending 'CL ?' but the message didn't
>> seem to get through. There are plenty of people (myself included) who
>> struggle to catch a callsign sent once at 50 WPM + when it's not
>> expected. I can only assume that most of those who did work this station
>> did so by getting the callsign off the cluster & using HRD or whatever
>> prog. to tune the rig to the correct freq. etc. If this is what
>> contesting has become why bother? We might just as well used CQ100 or
>> whatever it's called. I certainly didn't work this station or others who
>> employed similar tactics.
>> I omitted sending the pointless 5NN & out of ~100 QSO's only one station
>> queried the report even sending 14 is a waste of time but for me that
>> just about sums up CQWW contests.
>>
>> 73....
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> G3LVP
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