[UK-CONTEST] Vertical radials

[Clive GM3POI]

Not from me Ken, their is no point in doing that the 
radials are on the ground. 73 Clive GM3POI
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Chandler" <g0orh at sky.com>
To: "'MM0BQI'" <MM0BQI at blueyonder.co.uk>; 
<gm4kln at cairn-ltd.co.uk>; "'UK-Contest'" 
<UK-Contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Vertical radials


> Hi Guys
> Did I hear correct a while ago when someone, 
> possibly Clive, said that if
> you cannot get the radials lengths in your allotted 
> space just coil the ends
> up!!
>
> Ken..G0ORH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of MM0BQI
> Sent: 12 October 2009 22:33
> To: gm4kln at cairn-ltd.co.uk; 'UK-Contest'
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Vertical radials
>
> Hi Ian
> I have a bit of experience with the Hustler, 
> dragging it round most of
> Scotland over the past few years and it has served 
> me very well!  I am sure
> the experts will fill you in on what you should do 
> so I will just let you
> know what has worked for me.
> I have tried lifting the base and using raised 
> radials (two per band) which
> works okay but not enough to make me want to climb 
> over lots of radials to
> get near the antenna.
> The 20 foot radials will work fine if you have lots 
> of them.  They should be
> as long as you can manage, do not worry about 
> specific lengths as tuning
> them will have no effect as they are so close to 
> the ground. I usually work
> with 8 or 16 shortish radials and add two or four 
> at 10m if I can find the
> space.  Not sure if this improves things but it 
> makes me feel better!  There
> is a difference you can hear between 8 and 16 
> radials, I have gone as high
> as 32 but the additional improvement was not worth 
> the effort.
> I believe the old adage applies that you should lay 
> down as much wire as you
> can in the space available, at least you will 
> 'feel' you are then getting
> out as best you can!
> For 80m I ran a 66 foot wire to the top of the 
> aerial then away to a
> suitable post.  Even this very low inverted L 
> knocked spots of the Hustler
> with the big loading couil at the top.
> My traps heat up with 150 watts during RTTY 
> contests so maybe watch out for
> that (I have the 5BTV and it is about 8 years old) 
> Enjoy the antenna, I am
> sure it will stand up very well to the 'slight'
> breezes you have up there.
> 73
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian GM4KLN" <gm4kln at cairn-ltd.co.uk>
> To: "'UK-Contest'" <UK-Contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:12 PM
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Vertical radials
>
>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> Just installing a 6BTV which will be at ground 
>> level on heavy, stony
>> Scottish Highlands ground. Radials will be 
>> permanent, and lain on top of
>> the
>> grass with a view to them disappearing into the 
>> ground by spring next
>> year.
>> Interest is DX, contesting: NVIS minimal interest. 
>> 80m is not a key goal
>> with this antenna - 20, 30, 40 are.
>>
>> There is enough room to get a 360 spread of 20' 
>> radials which will cover
>> the
>> near field fine.
>>
>> But over and above this: am I likely to get any 
>> practical benefit from
>> adding additional radials of 30' (in a bow-tie) or 
>> even 60' in certain
>> directions  (i.e. diagonal in a rectangular plot)
>>
>> If so.....can these also be random length, or will 
>> tuned for lowest band
>> (80) reap benefit.
>>
>> Any sources of radial wire in the Highlands also 
>> welcome!
>>
>> 73, Ian GM4KLN
>>
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