[UK-CONTEST] UK-Contest Digest, Stupid Phonetics

[David G3YYD]

The "standard" ITU-R phonetics some are good and some are poor. I am 
glad I do not have Z in my call must be the worst of the lot "Zulu".

When I use phonetics I use what is the best to convey the message to the 
distant end.

I note that when I call some one in a pile up using the "standard" I 
most often get "YYD?" rather than "G3?". However if I use Germany 3 
Yankee Yankee Delta, I get either the full call correctly received or in 
about equal measure "G3?" or "YYD?". To my mind Gulf is OK if conditions 
are with me but if they are against then "Germany" is much better at 
getting my call across. George is too parochial a name for wide 
international use (Think about how a Francophone would say "George").

I will only use "standard" phonetics if they are best at doing the job, 
which in many cases they are not.

David G3YYD

On 11/04/2010 16:58, G3RIR wrote:
>   I always used to agree with that view and use Golf three for G3 but there
> is no doubt that Golf is not the optimum phonetic for G being rather soft
> sounding. Germany for G is much more distinctive. George is probably as good
> and is more English maybe!
>
> 73
>
> Neil, G3RIR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ken Eastty
> Sent: 11 April 2010 16:36
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] UK-Contest Digest, Stupid Phonetics
>
>
>    
>>
>> On 11 April 2010 13:44, Chris G3SJJ<g3sjj at btinternet.com>   wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> Yeah, I just can't get the hang of this new fangled Germany Three or
>>> Mexico Zero stuff. Golf Three or Mike Zero always fitted in my
>>> logging software but the new stuff doesn't!
>>>
>>> 73 SJJ
>>>        
> Too right Chris,
>
> I can't understand why some stations use 'Germany' as the phonetic for 'G'.
> If anyone had done that when I was first licensed they would probably have
> been carted off to the Tower of London with echoes of "Germany Calling"
> still in people minds.
> Using a 'country' phonetic which has no connection with where the station is
> located makes no sense at all unless the person concerned has visions of
> being the next Tony Hancock.
> I try to stick with standard ICAO phonetics for all their failings it's bad
> enough having to remember not to use my own callsign when aviating without
> using non-standard phonetics, the other day I only just stopped myself
> signing off with RAF Valley with '73'!
>
> 73...
>
> Ken
>
> George 3 London Victor Peter...
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