[UK-CONTEST] QRS and QRP

[Andy Cook, G4PIQ]

FWIW - that's not my experience. I prefer 60-70ft dipole height for domestic
contests on 80. I don't see any reduction in strength of close-in stations
(and that's reflected in the models), and your earth losses go down...

Andy 

-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Callum MØMCX
Sent: 22 April 2010 10:28
To: 'UK Contesting'
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] QRS and QRP


>>> I would rather use a "bent" 133ft dipole at 10ft than a G5RV at 
>>> 40ft!

Any horizontal antenna at 10 feet, certainly from half-size through to
double-sized) will outperform a similar antenna at 40 feet on 80m for NVIS,
close working. There will be negligible differences on gain for anything in
between. Be aware that if you really did run your 10 foot antenna, the
impedance would be around 4 ohms, hence most people aim for 25 foot plus -
just to get the impedance up to above 25 ohms.

I guess you knew this anyway.

Callum McCormick
t: 07976 631881
http://www.m0mcx.co.uk/



-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rob - G4LMW
Sent: 21 April 2010 22:42
To: 'UK Contesting'
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] QRS and QRP

Tom

Was your QRS station at the top end of the section (3560+-) - the designated

"QRS Corral"?

Like Danny, I always slow to the other station's speed, so I am surprised at

his experience. Please encourage him to give it another try.

On the antenna front, a G5RV is certainly not the best option and the 
radiation angle of a vertical is probably worse (in most "skip" conditions).

An 80 loop, longwire, or 80m dipole would be better.

I would rather use a "bent" 133ft dipole at 10ft than a G5RV at 40ft!

73, Rob
G4LMW
http://www.G4LMW.co.uk



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Danny Higgins" <danny.higgins at keme.co.uk>
To: "'Thomas Cannon'" <tom.g0vqr at ntlworld.com>; "'UK Contesting'" 
<uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] QRS and QRP


> Tom,
>
> I always slow down if I am called by a QRS station because I want to 
> make sure he gets the call and the report correct.  Also, he may come 
> back again in the next contest.
>
> I use QRP for CW and DATA when conditions are good, as 100W to 10W is 
> the same as S9+30 to S9+20.  I use a full size 80M dipole up about 40 
> feet and in the last CW contest I managed to hold a run frequency for 
> over an hour. It helps to have a low noise level to pick up the other 
> QRP stations who call.  I'll probably be QRP in tomorrow's data 
> contest as I can only run 50W in data modes, so only disadvantaged by 
> 7dB this time.
>
> Danny, G3XVR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com 
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Cannon
> Sent: 21 April 2010 21:14
> To: UK Contesting
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] QRS and QRP
>
> I was approached by one of the members at are Radio club the other 
> night
> who
> has just started to go into the Club Championship contests. He has never
> been in Amateur Radio contests before so was not sure of the QSO format. 
> He
> also is learning Morse Code and was keen to try it out in the contest.
> I explained the use of cut numbers in contest N - 9 and T - 0 and the
> contest QSO format. which he was fine with.
> The problem he had this month in the CW  leg was that only 1 station out 
> of
> the handful he worked slowed down so he could understand them. I have been
> trying so hard this year to get members to take part in the Club
> Championships especially the members that are not contesters and the ones
> learning Morse Code.
> His comment to me was:" I am not sure I will do that again, only one 
> person
> would slow down". If we want newcomers to take part in these contest we 
> must
> slow down to their speed. I have convinced him to give it another try, so
> please if you are sent Morse very slowly, please send it back slowly to 
> the
> other station.
>
> Also congratulations to some of the QRP stations in the Club
> Championships.
> There were some big scoring logs and I wish I had a station as good as
> theirs! I think the antenna must be the most important part of the 
> station.
> I use a full size G5RV at about 30 feet and when the weather permits I use

> a
> 40 metre verticle on a Helikite with 16 - 20 Metre ground radials. If
> anyone
> has any better ideas for an antenna on 80 Metres I would love to hear 
> about
> it.
>
> Work you in a contest soon
>
> Tom G0VQR
>
>
>
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