[UK-CONTEST] RSGB Contest Committee

[Roger G3SXW]

Correct thinking, Paul. But let me repeat: it depends on what else is in the 
exchange. It must be sufficient to give shape to the transmission and be 
communicated quickly and efficiently. My example was non-island stations: 
you send your exchange + hand back to him and all you hear is " 1 ", sent at 
30wpm, once. Bit daft, innit! Like in CQWW you might just hear " AE " (15 
short-code) or 'fifteen' barked once in a foreign accent. Daft! Wherever 
there is only ONE other element eg serial number (or zone number) then RST 
shouldn't be dropped, IMO.

The other issue is accuracy of logging. We already these days have higher 
error rates (and point deductions in log-checking) as a result of snappy 
operating, compared with the old days. There has to be a balance here 
somewhere. But . . . each to his own! Next you will suggest swapping ONLY 
call-signs, then it will be just a list of call-signs heard (like ISS). Then 
2-way contacts become 1-way. No, each contest needs individual 
consideration. Dropping the signal-report for Sprints was sensible because 
there is more than one exchange element AND because both call-signs must be 
transmitted.
73 de Roger/G3SXW.





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul O'Kane" <pokane at ei5di.com>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] RSGB Contest Committee


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger G3SXW" <g3sxw at btinternet.com>
>
>> non-island stations with no IOTA reference to send would be
>> left too little to send and keep 'shape' to the QSO.
>
> QSOs in major HF contests have a simple shape.
> They consist of Callsign + Exchange (when you're
> running) or Exchange (when you're not running).
>
> RST is still exchanged only because that's the
> way it has always been.  Up to about 40 years
> ago it may have had some significance in major
> HF contests, just as it still has in VHF contests.
> However, we all know, from HF events like the
> Sprints, that you don't miss it when you don't
> expect it.
>
> All that has to happen is that the rules of
> any major HF event change to make the exchange
> of 5NN optional and, within two years, we will
> wonder why we kept it for so long.  The IOTA
> contest is an obvious candidate because it has
> a longer exchange than most.
>
> If Roger calls me in IOTA and I reply with
> G3SXW 089 EU115, I expect he will deal with it
> and that's all he has to type/log.  He knows
> that once he hears his call, the important bit
> (the exchange) is likely to follow.   When he
> replies with 132 EU5 (he's faster than me), I
> can deal with it.
>
> When I send my call and exchange to a non-island
> station, and hear nothing but 008 or 461 or 2097
> in return - it's no problem.  What more is there
> to say?
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
>
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