[UK-CONTEST] General Rules

[g3ydy]

The problem with the rules is they are far too long. The more clauses and
words you have the more loopholes you make. To cover up the loopholes you
have more clauses and yet more words. This has been shown in the current
threads that are running. I even sense that perhaps individual members of
the contest committee may interpret a rule in different ways. e.g. location
/A /P etc.

For the general contest rules these should be able to be printed on no more
than an A4 sheet single sided in 12 font or if you really cannot get it on
then 10 font. Also none of this rubbish that contest rules take precedence
over licence. The standard licence is what is taken as gospel. No NOV's for
high power etc .......

Paul

G3YDY





-----Original Message-----
From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
[mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com]On Behalf Of David G3YYD
Sent: 07 February 2010 17:45
To: uk-Contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] General Rules


So If I guest operate a friend's station at his licence address but
using my callsign, which I am allowed to do by my and his licence, I
have by the contest rules to be /P and enter in that contest category.
(Wonder what this does for club calls?)

If my friend operated his station at his licence address with his own
callsign he would have to enter the fixed category. But we are both
operating exactly the same station.

To me that does not sound like the intent of the rule but in my
interpretation of the rules that is what is said.

Writing rules is never easy and I have a lot of sympathy with the
contest committee. I suspect portable and fixed categories need defining
rather than relying on licence definition and addresses etc.

David G3YYD

On 07/02/2010 16:46, Ian Pawson wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> Sorry, I think you are wrong.  This rule means that stations who enter the
> fixed station section MUST operate from that call sign's registered
address.
> If you operate from anywhere else, you cannot enter the fixed station
> section.  Since the use of the /P etc is now optional, the contest rules
can
> take precedence over the license (but only in this very limited way).
>
> 73,
> Ian G0FCT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com
> [mailto:uk-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
> Sent: 07 February 2010 15:58
> To: 'uK-Contest'
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] General Rules
>
> On 7 Feb 2010 at 15:35, Roger Dixon wrote:
>
>
>> Dave,
>> Don't forget VHF rule 3a.  "Stations entering a fixed station section
>> or contest must operate from permanent and substantial buildings
>> located at the main station address as shown on the licence validation
>>
> document.
>
>> The spirit of the contest will be paramount."
>>
>> Roger - G4BVY
>>
> And that is the very clause which is wrongly worded. Fixed station section
> entrants MUST be allowed to operated from a different fixed location from
> the licence address, and affix a /A if they so wish to indicate (licence
> note (d)i). It is wrong to suggest these stations should be in the
portable
> section and affix a /P when they are not operating portable (licence note
> (d)ii). Operation to the licence must take precedence over any contest
> rules.
>
> It is worth pointing out of course that we no longer have a 'licence
> validation document' (was BR68).
>
> 73 Dave G3YMC
>
> http://www.davesergeant.com
>
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