[UK-CONTEST] Remote operating

[Rob - G4LMW]

This is a contesting reflector BTW... but

I'm just as uncomfortable with a "remote" non-contest QSO as a contest QSO.

Having the usual rag-chew about the weather and what the operator did last 
night is part and parcel of the QSO. One of my favourite QSOs was with a 
chap in Barbados. He was watching a West Indies v England Test Match at the 
time.

My mind wandered off and imagined him sitting.... wearing sunglasses 
...........in his hot car.... ......in the blazing sun..... watching the 
"live" cricket............... ..while sipping a cold beer.

If it turned out that he was in fact sitting................ wearing a 
headset............ in his cold shack..... on a cold day.......... watching 
the cricket on Channel 4.....while sipping a tepid cup of tea.....

I would feel cheated.

If I am talking to a "station" in Barbados, I expected the op to be in 
Barbados (along with all the station equipment).

73, Rob
G4LMW
http://www.G4LMW.co.uk



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom GM4FDM" <tom at gm4fdm.com>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Remote stuff


>
>
> On 10/09/2010 11:11, Paul O'Kane wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ian White GM3SEK"<gm3sek at ifwtech.co.uk>
>>
>>> I'm quite comfortable with remote stations, provided that
>>> everything at that station is on the same site, and that
>>> the station location is truthfully declared (above all,
>>> by the callsign).
>>
>>
>> I'm also quite comfortable with remote stations, except
>> for the purposes of contesting and award chasing. We are
>> all entitled to have fun in whatever way we choose so
>> long as it's legal and doesn't inconvenience others.
>>
>> Nevertheless, I feel cheated when an operator tells me he
>> is not in the same location as the station.  I'd prefer
>> to know, in advance, whether the operator is using remote
>> control.  As for those who claim it doesn't matter, I say
>> it does matter, and that's why it's called "remote control".
>> If it wasn't different, it wouldn't need a different name.
>
>
> What difference does the location of the operator make.   Going back to
> the NON-contesting example, Martii was operating using an AZORES
> callsign.   Why,  because the station is located in the Azores.   The
> transmitter is in the Azores, the receiver is in the Azores and the
> Antenna is in the Azores.   All that Martii had was a very long headset
> lead.   For the life of me I cant see the difference.   Now, if his
> station was located in the Azores, but he was pretending to be in P5 for
> example, that would be out of order.
>
> When he is operating from his holiday QTH in the Azores, his station is
> regulated by the authorities in the Azores, whether he is there or not.
>
> All this hoo hah about remote receivers and rules of contesting is an
> entirely different thread and was not the subject matter of this
> particular thread.   Lets keep this discussion on topic - OR CHANGE THE
> TOPIC
>
>
> Tom
> GM4FDM
>
>
>
>
>> It seems to me that sooner or later, remote control
>> operation (especially when national boundaries are
>> involved) will be regulated, if not banned, by our
>> licensing authorities.
>>
>>> If that station happens to have a remote operator, it
>>> really doesn't trouble me. I am still making a complete
>>> two-way radio contact to that station, wherever it is.
>>
>> Amateur radio QSOs are not station-to station-activities.
>> They are person-to-person with amateur-band RF as the
>> medium.  In the same way, phone calls are person-to-person
>> activities with the PSTN as the medium; they are not
>> exchange-to-exchange (station to station) activities.
>>
>> To anyone who believes there's no harm in remote-control
>> "QSOs", please have a look at these links.
>>
>> http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-03/msg00461.html
>> http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2008-03/msg00504.html
>>
>>
>> 73,
>> Paul EI5DI
>>
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> -- 
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> That my get up and go - has got up and went
> But I really dont mind when I think with a grin
> of all the great places my "get up" has been!
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