[UK-CONTEST] Failure to Identify

[Rob Harrison]

Hi,

HF and VHF have different standards and operating procedures, and they have 
evolved historically. It's natural to expect what you are used to to be the 
same when moving from one area to another.

Ian makes a good point re imposing standards from one part of the spectrum 
on another. However that goes both ways of course. Contest committee take 
note please when "harmonising" the rules.

Bob G8HGN

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian White GM3SEK" <gm3sek at ifwtech.co.uk>
To: <uk-contest at contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] Failure to Identify


> John Lemay wrote:
>>Perhaps I can be really old fashioned here, and suggest that a qso
>>requires a minimum exchange of both callsigns and a report ?
>>
>
> No, for two reasons.
>
> One is that there are different QSO standards between HF and VHF.
> There's no point in discussing why or whether this "should be" - that's
> simply the way it is, so it's wrong to attempt to impose standards from
> one part of the spectrum upon another. HF contest QSOs simply don't
> exchange both callsigns; only one callsign has to be identified
> correctly over the air.
>
> The second reason is that "both callsigns and a report" is incomplete!
> What's missing is the exchange of ACKNOWLEDGEMENT - sent and received
> both ways, that is the key piece of information that clinches the QSO.
>
> If anything needs to be enforced across the entire spectrum, it is: "No
> Ack = No QSO. No excuses".
>
> HF contesters are pretty clear about the need for acknowledgements to be
> sent and received both ways. Express or implied, the acknowledgement is
> still there. On VHF and above, the meteor scatter and moonbounce
> operators have very strict formal rules about that final "R", and good
> VHF/UHF/microwave operators apply the same standards for all contacts.
>
> But RSGB VHF contest rules have never even mentioned it...
>
>
> -- 
>
> 73 from Ian GM3SEK
> http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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