[UK-CONTEST] Fwd: 3rd Jan 80m CC [CW]

[Andy Summers]

I hear what you say Gordon. My main conclusion is that sometimes a perceived
disadvantage is all in the mind!

Anyhow, 87% of statistics are made up...

73 Andy, G4KNO.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Gordon Brown
<gordonbrowns at btinternet.com>wrote:

> Andy,
>
> According to RBN ZGC was first heard at 2018 and last heard at 2129 - 71
> minutes
> KNO was first heard at 2000 and last heard at 2055 55 minutes
> ZGC claimed 85 QSOs - that's 1 every 55 secs
> KNO claimed 31 QSOs - that's 1 ever 107 seconds
> So ZGC was twice as fast as KNO
> Can that be explained by the average speed of each of the stations?
> ZGCs average speed was 25 WPM
> KNO average speed was 14 WPM
> So ZGC operated at twice the speed of KNO and made twice the number of QSOs
> in
> the same time.
>
> The difference between KNO running 100W and ZGC running 10W should be 10dB
> all
> else being equal but the RBN reports I read are nothing like that
> difference.
>
> Now - what about the aerials?
>
> As my dad said - figures can't lie but liars can figure.
>
> 73
> Gordon.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Andy Summers <g4kno.mail at gmail.com>
> To: UK contest list <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 6 January, 2011 16:02:00
> Subject: [UK-CONTEST] Fwd: 3rd Jan 80m CC [CW]
>
> Clicked wrong button...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Andy Summers <g4kno.mail at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 3rd Jan 80m CC [CW]
> To: g3wvg at btinternet.com
>
>
> How cool is that! I never bothered to look at RBN before.
>
> Out of interest, I sorted the claimed entries by QSO count and picked a few
> to compare with myself at various nodes. What's strking is there isn't a
> massive difference between my signal and some of the leaders. But more
> revealing is that G3ZGC's QRP is indeed consistently weaker than my signal
> and yet he is in 38th place to my 127th! In fact he beats a significant
> number of stations running 100W - well done! OK, I'm no CW op, but this
> does
> suggest the skill factor is a bigger factor than I had assumed.
>
> Of course, there isn't really any data from nodes in G-land, so it's
> impossible to see whether some enjoyed better inter-G propagation than
> others - which makes up the meat of the available Q's. I was interested to
> see that I was heard by K3LR near the start of the contest at the same SNR
> as G4FNL, who is currently in 1st place.
>
> This is all quite encouraging to me because I had assumed it was a
> pipe-dream to think I could get anywhere near the top of the table with my
> station (currently 100W to inverted-vee windom, 30ft apex 10ft ends). A
> long
> way to go with the skill then... I recall reading something G6XN wrote
> where
> he reckoned those with beams did better partly because they expected to get
> through to DX, whereas those that didn't gave up too easily.
>
> 73,
> Andy G4KNO.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Ian Pritchard <g3wvg at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello All
> >
> > Interesting conditions throughout the 80m CC.  I had expected the band to
> > be pretty poor for inter UK QSOs throughout the contest but for me (in
> > Surrey ) it improved dramatically in the last 45 mins or so.  Today I did
> a
> > search on the "reverse beacon network comparison tool"  comparing signal
> > strengths of various  high scoring stations (posted on logs received) as
> > received throughout the 90 minutes at various reception points around
> > Europe.  Fascinating stuff.  It would be very interesting to see what
> > antennas everyone was using.  Most of the stations had comparable
> patterns
> > of signal strengths but  there were some anomalous results. with a very
> > small number of stations exhibiting as much as a 10db advantage over
> others.
> >
> > Check it out at    http://www.reversebeacon.net/analysis/
> >
> > 73 Ian G3WVG
> >
> >
> >
> >
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