[UK-CONTEST] 2m UKAC results

[Paul pasquet]

I hope they get even more entrants out and about,every one is worth around 300 points to me  ;-)


Paul G4RRA


 



> From: g0mtn1 at gmail.com
> To: uk-contest at contesting.com
> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:08:57 +0000
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 2m UKAC results
> 
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> I'm all agreed that the 'no geographic or team size limits' have the 
> positives you mention - more overall activity, greater inclusivity for 
> potential entrants, and it carves up the entry field differently so we're 
> more likely to see different people at the top.
> 
> However... I've not submitted a 144 UKAC score yet this year, so there's 
> nothing to stop me making an enquiry to see if I could join the Bolton club 
> for 2011.  I could feel the excitement of joining a 'winning team.'    As I 
> have some commitments to other clubs, this may seem a bit peculiar, but 
> there's nothing in the rules about it.  If I didn't have any commitments, 
> perhaps apart from joining a geographically local club, there is a certain 
> logic in joining a good team, it may be difficult to argue its against any 
> 'spirit of the contest' either.  This may or may not have happened with 
> Bolton as the Jan 2011 RadCom on page 76 tells the tale:  "By the end of 
> 2009 we had become well known on the bands and had been joined by some new 
> members with good VHF stations (it's easy to recuit to a winning team.)" 
> Success breeds success - so I can understand the frustration of other teams 
> trying to climb the tables that David from the Trowbridge group was 
> expressing.
> 
> This can work two ways: Entrants looking for a club to support, or clubs 
> recruiting new members.  In AFS and perhaps more so the CC's, there has been 
> a feeling that national clubs (e.g. CDXC for 80m events) should not enter, 
> as it would be relatively easy to win.  If I mobilised 100 CDXC entrants for 
> the 80m CC for 2012, there could probably be some disquiet. But at what 
> point does a winning group, that can attract new members because of their 
> publicity and track record, then become synonymous with a national club 
> where entries are discouraged?   Maximising the amount of existing club 
> members in your group taking part is to be congratulated.  But if Gxxxx, (or 
> DLxxxx or PAxxx) wants to join your team as new members, why not say 'yes'? 
> What's the harm in publicising on your club's website that you are looking 
> for new members?   If a club has free membership as well, there's hardly a 
> big commitment.
> 
> If someone stumped up the RSGB AFS-fee, we could create a "Bottom of the 
> table Superclub" for next year's CC and UKAC events, with any existing club 
> welcome to join forces.  The superclub's website would show that Walmington 
> on Sea ARC members for example were supporting this new venture, and they 
> would see that their combined efforts with similar bottom half of the table 
> clubs could see them leap into first place, and within grasp of trophies and 
> certificates, previously continually out of reach each and every year...
> 
> Silly, yes, but the intent is to again demonstrate that the 'club' 
> competition is far from perfect, so perhaps the individual scores and 
> increased overall activity levels are the things to focus on instead.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Lee G0MTN
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <g3ory at lineone.net>
> To: <m0ghz.david at dsl.pipex.com>; <uk-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [UK-CONTEST] 2m UKAC results
> 
> 
> > Hello David,
> >
> > This one seems to come up at regular intervals and my view is that
> > the peer pressure generated in Clubs by having a 'no-limit' on numbers
> > is a bigger positive than the resulting unequal team sizes is a
> > negative.  The rules have ecouraged a huge number of Bolton Club
> > members to try contesting, and that is an enormous positive to me.  My
> > Club of 30 members managed to get about 22 or 23 on the air for the 80m
> > AFS.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you want the same Clubs to win this contest that win the 2m AFS
> > contest then make the rules the same and have fixed team sizes. I
> > believe it is more healthy to have a different Club at the top and
> > hence am a committed supporter of the present arrangement.
> >
> >
> >
> > There might be a case to have separate categories for 'large'Clubs and
> > 'small' Clubs.  As to where you draw the line? Presumably one more than
> > the membership of one's own Club!!
> >
> >
> >
> > 73 Bob
> >
> > G3ORY
> 
> 
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